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Thread: 3 Years Have Passed, Grade the Jets 2010 Draft

  1. #21
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    One of the worst Jets drafts in a long time. Not even deserving of a grade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzsaw View Post
    1st Round: CB Kyle Wilson
    2nd Round: G Vladimir Ducasse
    4th Round: RB Joe McKnight
    5th Round: FB John Connor

    Kyle Wilson - C+
    Vladimir Ducaase -D
    Joe McKnight - B-
    John Connor - D

    Wilson played pretty well in place of Revis last season however the Jets drafted a CB in the 1st round this season making Wilson a nickel back. Given that Wilson is a former first round pick, the bar should be high when grading. C+

    Vlad Ducaase - Has not shown the ability to win the starting job even though he is a 2nd round pick. D. If he gets cut this year, the grade drops to an F

    Joe McKnight - Excellent return man. Will probably be no more then a situational back. Given that he was a 4th round pick, B-

    John Connor - Never devloped into the player that was expected. Considering he was a 5th round pick and is still in the league, D

    Overall Grade: D
    (D- if Vlad gets cut in preseason).

    Only 4 picks, a trademark of the Tannenbaum era.
    Last edited by JetsFanatic; 05-11-2013 at 03:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billygreen View Post
    This should be a lesson to people who think you should only build through the draft and "get younger" and that experienced free agent vets aren't worth considering when building a winning franchise.

    With an experienced vet you know what you have. With a draft pick, I don't care how high they're selected or what their combine numbers are or how their scouting reports reads are A GAMBLE. Once in a while you get lucky in the draft, but most of your contribution comes from vets who've been there before.
    This is very wrong. You could use free agents to fill in holes and bring in a key player or two but if you want to win the majority of your talent must come through the draft.

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    F

    Wilson - D We took another 1st round CB. Tells you all you need to know. Would be an F but at least he plays a little bit.
    Vlad - F And he might be a starter this year. LOL.
    Connor - F Fvck you Rex.
    McKnight - C He did make a Pro Bowl.

    The 2008-2010 drafts have really hurt this team. And back in '09 and '10 everyone would have given the 2009 draft an A. Goes to show you that you have to wait to grade the drafts. Works both ways.
    Last edited by DDNYjets; 05-11-2013 at 03:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fidelioion View Post
    This is very wrong. You could use free agents to fill in holes and bring in a key player or two but if you want to win the majority of your talent must come through the draft.
    Talent must come through the draft, but the percentage of draft picks who actually make a significant contribution and stick around in the NFL for the long term is very small. On any given team most of your players are vets who've been in the league at least 3 years. Many of your vet free agents are only there for cap reasons not because they can't play. As I said with a vet you know what you have, with a draft pick you don't. You may think you know what you have with a draft pick, but you really don't until realtime starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billygreen View Post
    Talent must come through the draft, but the percentage of draft picks who actually make a significant contribution and stick around in the NFL for the long term is very small. On any given team most of your players are vets who've been in the league at least 3 years. Many of your vet free agents are only there for cap reasons not because they can't play. As I said with a vet you know what you have, with a draft pick you don't. You may think you know what you have with a draft pick, but you really don't until realtime starts.
    Look around the league and you'll see that the vast majority of their most talented players were drafted by that team. Idea being, that most teams don't let their top players leave.

    Yes the draft is a crap shoot but that's what separates the good teams from the bad. With having a QB being the most significant and good QB's almost never hit the open market.

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    I'd like to see who we passed on, who would have fit a needed role... but I'm kind of lazy and don't really care that much.

    That was a shlt draft!

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    2010 draft looks like Rex had a lot of input - cornerback in the 1st then ground & pound personnel the rest of the way. Our recent draft looks very similar. Hope the players turn out to be better than the 2010 class.

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    That's the kind of draft that can get a GM fired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzsaw View Post
    2010 draft looks like Rex had a lot of input - cornerback in the 1st then ground & pound personnel the rest of the way. Our recent draft looks very similar. Hope the players turn out to be better than the 2010 class.
    the difference is this time the jets actually needed offensive linemen, especially since they just drafted a qb who likely will be starting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonEJet View Post
    Wow... What a lack of talent EVERYWHERE... I guess we didn't do THAT bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    Can someone explain why Connor failed so badly? He seemed to have the size/strength/skill/desire to be an NFL fullback.

    He was talked up, played a little, then just...gone.

    Whats the story there?
    Connor did nothing really well. His blocking was so so, and he offered nothing in the passing game or an ability to be a short yardage back. He made a couple good blocks on special teams his rookie year and he was given a catchy nickname. Guy was beyond useless on offense.

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    It's like... Do I want this turd with the nuts, or that one with the corn???
    Decisions decisions...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sec.101row23 View Post
    Connor did nothing really well. His blocking was so so, and he offered nothing in the passing game or an ability to be a short yardage back. He made a couple good blocks on special teams his rookie year and he was given a catchy nickname. Guy was beyond useless on offense.
    he was drafted to block and couldn't even do that well. they knew he couldn't run or catch, but the poor blocking underscored how bad that draft was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonEJet View Post
    Definitely was not a sexy draft. But some good players in the 1st round. Got slim after that.

    Suh, Berry, Okung, Haden, Spiller, Thomas, JPP, Iupati, Pouncey, Weatherspoon, Thomas, Bryant.

    Just remembered that Hernandez was taken right after McKnight. LOL. And Pitta right after Hernandez. WOW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
    Definitely was not a sexy draft. But some good players in the 1st round. Got slim after that.

    Suh, Berry, Okung, Haden, Spiller, Thomas, JPP, Iupati, Pouncey, Weatherspoon, Thomas, Bryant.

    Just remembered that Hernandez was taken right after McKnight. LOL. And Pitta right after Hernandez. WOW.
    We really weren't looking for a pass catching TE...we were looking for a back to compliment Shonn Greene....TJ was toast, and had played his last game for us....the 2nd half of the Indy game proved that

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonEJet View Post
    We really weren't looking for a pass catching TE...we were looking for a back to compliment Shonn Greene....TJ was toast, and had played his last game for us....the 2nd half of the Indy game proved that
    One of the hallmarks of the Tanny error. Draft for need.

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    All you guys giving Wilson an F really need to take a good look at the bottom third of that years draft...not exactly an awesome crop of players.

    That being said, yes that draft was overall terrible. D at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYJCAP2 View Post
    D is a generous grade, you have to take into account the players they took and the picks they lost and didnt't even have. Closer to an F.
    This^


    If this was Belli's draft you all would point it out as proof that Bill can't draft.

    Otoh, I think when you look back at the following draft, the grade will be B+ to A-.

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