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Thread: 3 Years Have Passed, Grade the Jets 2010 Draft

  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by AFCEastFan View Post
    Agree. He sucks in man coverage, to be sure. But playing almost exclusively zone as a rookie, he was a 1st team All Pro. And as the safety he is today, he is a solid starter.
    lol

  2. #62
    I think McCourty's strugles his second year were mostly due to the scrubs the Pats had starting at safety, and I actually think that in Belichick's scheme safeties are more important than corners.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by SAM View Post
    I think McCourty's strugles his second year were mostly due to the scrubs the Pats had starting at safety, and I actually think that in Belichick's scheme safeties are more important than corners.
    If true, that's very unfortunate. Belichick's even worse at drafting safeties than he is at drafting corners. The two best safeties he drafted were converted corners (Wilson and McCourty). He passed on Ed Reed. He wasted mid-round picks on terrible safeties (Scott, Reid) and wasted high picks on mediocre ones (Meriweather, Chung).

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFCEastFan View Post
    If true, that's very unfortunate. Belichick's even worse at drafting safeties than he is at drafting corners. The two best safeties he drafted were converted corners (Wilson and McCourty). He passed on Ed Reed. He wasted mid-round picks on terrible safeties (Scott, Reid) and wasted high picks on mediocre ones (Meriweather, Chung).
    And he took the Rutgers kid this year that no one thought would go that high.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Ruby2 View Post
    And he took the Rutgers kid this year that no one thought would go that high.
    Yep. And he did the same thing last year with the kid from Illinois.

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Borgoguy View Post
    I thought it was only me. Every time you'd see him on the field, Conner looked completely lost.
    Rex's special hand pick became a hand job.


    D for this draft.....

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by John_0515 View Post
    McCourty is perfect for a zone scheme, and is awful in man coverage. He is not good at making adjustments, just like Wilson, however he has many physical tools that make him succeed when not challenged to adjust mid play.

    Wilson is way more physical than McCourty, but suffers from the same inability to adjust mid play. I think McCourty is able to read the offense a little better, which is probably why he'd make a better safety.
    Look at this, real football analysis from a rival fan. Kudos to you, John, for a well-thought post. The bottom line is neither Wilson nor McCourty have proven to be the guys they were drafted in the 1st round to be. The Pats found unusual success at the position in his rookie year, but he's now a happy safety because of an inability to work man to man. Same for Kyle Wilson. If he could do it, the Jets aren't drafting Dee.

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    McCourty is better than Wilson and more valuable to his team.

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    If you're evaluating purely on the draft picks (and not including the players we acquired with some of those picks) it was a horrendous draft.

    Wilson was probably the best pick and he's a halfway decent nickleback in the first round, that should tell you what you need to know. C

    Duccasse is a complete failure on every level. The guy flat out sucks. A waste. F

    John Connor was a waste. Completely one dimensional player whose role in the league was expiring when we picked him. At least he was a starter for a while. D

    Joe McKnight is a good kick returner, but probably should have been more. If he wasn't such a headcase he seems like he should have been able to contribute more. C

    Don't know why anyone is knocked the Pats 2010 draft. It was great. Probably one of two good drafts they've had in the last decade, but still a good draft.

  11. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by ASG0531 View Post
    Look at this, real football analysis from a rival fan. Kudos to you, John, for a well-thought post. The bottom line is neither Wilson nor McCourty have proven to be the guys they were drafted in the 1st round to be. The Pats found unusual success at the position in his rookie year, but he's now a happy safety because of an inability to work man to man. Same for Kyle Wilson. If he could do it, the Jets aren't drafting Dee.
    If Rex was happy with Wilson Milliner wouldn't be a Jet. I don't think Wilson is as bad as many people say. Neither is McCourty.

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    ABSOLUTE F.

    Kyle Wilson dropping an absolute pick six in the AFC title game in Pittsburg alone is an F. He is not even a JAG yet. He's a guy struggling to find his way still. HOPEFULLY, he can become some sort of Ray Mickens type of nickle back. But he's not even close yet. D

    Ducasse. Please. F

    Mcnight. Good on Kick Returns. One trick pony who hasn't made any meaningful plays from scrimmage. C-.

    John Connor. Is he even in the NFL anymore? F

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
    McCourty is better than Wilson and more valuable to his team.
    Revis blew away both , oh well

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    1st Round: CB Kyle Wilson, the only guy I know in the NFL who celebrates after having been beat, but because the QB was not able to put the ball in the right spot, beats his chest. "F"
    2nd Round: G Vladimir Ducasse, what a reach in the 2010 draft, we released Alan Faneca because of this pick "F"
    4th Round: RB Joe McKnight, If I'm not mistaken we released Danny Woodhead for this fumbler "D"
    5th Round: FB John Connor, released was great fodder in Hard Knocks, otherwise a bust "F"

    Mr. T: one huge "F"

  17. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by SAM View Post
    It's very interesting how different grades are 3 years later:

    http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=212585
    everybody on here was screaming about how the Pats had a horrible draft and the Jets had a great one.

    NEP got 2 All-Pros, 2 more borderline pro bowlers in Spikes and Hernandez, one of the better Punters in the league, a decent situational rusher, and a quality backup DT. They also drafted a center who got pushed out in the roster squeeze and depth at center who went onto being a starter for another NFL team, in 2011 when they won the AFC and went to the Super Bowl they went through 4 centers due to injury and didn't miss a beat. A draft like that is what the Jets can only aspire to.
    DAYUM, that draft thread is something to re-read now with hindsight. Folks here were pissing all over Belli's picks, saying how bad he whiffed. To think, he let Dez Bryant and Sergio Kindle just slip though his fingers like that. What a dumbass.

  18. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by AFCEastFan View Post
    Yep. And he did the same thing last year with the kid from Illinois.
    Wilson was the 3rd drafted safety, and so far he's been the 3rd best safety from that draft class.

    and at the time Reed was drafted safety wasn't a need, however had we taken him he would have made a stud safety pairing with Milloy and then Harrison.

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    F MINUS MINUS MINUS

    4 Ridiculous, ego ridden picks

  20. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by SAM View Post
    Wilson was the 3rd drafted safety, and so far he's been the 3rd best safety from that draft class.
    Who is the 4th best safety in that draft class?

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