The Point being Qb needy teams always seem to try and elevate Qb that have no business going that early, much early than they should. That reaching usually turns out to be a mistake. That didn't happen this year(outside of the Bills) every teams took a chance on a QB much later in the draft.(risk isn't as great)
If Jets thought Geno Smith was a franchise QB(had no doubts they don't pass on him twice in the first round.
Like I alluded to one of these Qbs drafted this year, will probably turn out to be a top Qb. Which Qb that becomes is anyone guess at this point.
Yet again complete and utter garbage on your part, Brady and Rodgers are a few names that spring to mind of a franchise QB droppin out of the top 5.
When do franchise QB's go? Number 1 overall alla-Jamarcus. You are in no position to talk logic about the QB position considering you made the worst trade in nfl history for one, and have Tyler Wilson and Matt Flynn as your future.
Your just looking for an excuse to trash Geno because your scared the jets could be onto a winner. Not all teams that passed on him needed a QB and he was a nailed on top ten talent in January.
Teams that passed also included the bills who reached for a franchise QB more than the jets, what would your opinion be if the jets had made that selection?
Last edited by Harrier; 05-19-2013 at 03:32 PM. Reason: M
Franchise QBs haven't been seen on the Basement Bertha Raidaz in multiple decades. ..including the bust they drafted at ONE and the washed up USC bust they traded away 97 high draft picks to the Bengals to get
I usually agree with most of what you say. I am a lurker who enjoys your posts and I think what you say usually makes a lot of sense, especially when it comes to Mark Sanchez.
That being said. I think your jumping the gun about a between QB, pass catching RB and an effective TE. Yes, the Garard and Goodson pickups have failed, but who knew this was going to happen. Lets see what happens after training camp cuts. I am almost sure there may be some decent options out there.
Given what Idzik has done since he got here - cut a slew of veterans, some fan favourites, and traded away our best player, plus drafted D in the first round when people were mainly screaming about the O - I think it's a pretty positive sign that these are the only two issues he's getting heat for.
That last part is a qualifying phrase. It's rather obvious that NO teams in the NFL thought that Brady was a "franchise QB", otherwise, he wouldn't have gone as late in the draft as he did.Franchise Qb don't fall out of the top five, if teams think that Qb can be a franchise QB.
Similarly, teams questioned whether Aaron Rodgers would be a "franchise QB" which is why he fell as far as he did as well.
How are people defending 90210's post?? He said:
Look, the higher a QB (or any position) is taken, the more confidence a team has that that player will be good. Smith was taken in the 2nd, so there are doubts about him. Everyone knows that. We'll just have to see what happens. And if he's a bust, it's much less of a setback than wasting a 1st round pick on a bust...
My Brady and Rodgers point was just because multiple teams pass on you, it does not mean their evaluation is accurate.
My response was a general reply to the whole point of raiders post, it just came across as a pointless post to discredit the Geno selection.
To be honest I think the Geno pick has ruffled some feathers in NFL circles, people don't want to accept we may have got a franchise QB for an absolute steal.
You pretty much just answered your own question. IF guys are perceived to be true "Franchise QBs", they get taken very early and teams often trade up for them. Guys that get taken later and in the next couple of rounds are seen as "good" QBs who teams believe might have a chance to develop into "franchise QBs".
This isn't to say that guys taken in later rounds (or perhaps not even drafted) won't become franchise QBs, ala Brady and Kurt Warner.
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