I will never understand what compels people to thump their online chests at the expense of a team they supposedly love.
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Sure, we have our share of trolls and cult-of-personality guy who crave the attention or have an E-persona they need to keep cultivating, thats the Interwebtubes for you.
But I think more commonly, we have guys with passionate positions who get all over-the-top putting them out there, and (at times) then find themselves forced to either defend them or backeddle, and very few people backpedal or admit they were wrong on the Interwebtubes.
Combine with longstanding clashes of personalities from debates of yore, and you got the typical J.I. thread, 10% legit solid content, 40% former grudges, previously stated opinions, flip-flops hoping no one notices, and 50% pointless one-liners and insults.
The quality rises to the top IMO, and I think most regulars will know who to read (and not read) when they want serious football opinion/discussion here.
You look at fans elsewhere in the country, they aren't so quick to rip the team, players, coaches, front office types, etc. NY fans have become arrogant, they think they know better, and excude their "NY arrogance" on to the team and others. Sports talk shows is littered with pompous fans and radio hosts, it has become a vicious cycle. And as a NY area sports fan myself of over 30 years, I have tenure to make this evaluation.
This also certainly doesn't mean we should all be peaches in cream and accept our team's failure, far from it, but when regimes change, coaches change, and players change, fans dont' allow for the process to take place, and they don't factor all the variables that contribute to the struggles of the team. Sometimes, those struggles aren't always becuase of player, coach, etc. And yes, sometimes, a player's struggle is very much due to the influence of ruly fans that make professional athletes who play in NY a very difficult environment to play in. This can be easily seen by comments made from players after playing here. NY isn't for every player, some can handle it better than others, but why should this be the case, why do fans think it's ok to be complete a-holes, even to the athletes face, from the sideline, from the stands, as they come off the field.
Maybe this argument could be made for the younger generation of Yankees fans (The '96ers is what I call them) but it is impossible for this to apply to fans of the Jets.
It is not entitlement. It is simply being sick and tired of futility and fleeting moments success. And I know your definition of success is different than other people's so I don't want to get into that never-ending debate.
Last edited by DDNYjets; 05-23-2013 at 11:04 AM.
Last edited by Ray Ray19; 05-23-2013 at 11:09 AM.
If you believe as many of us do that Mark Sanchez is damaged goods and will never move this franchise forward in a meaningful way then really, most of the paths to the promised land would include us cutting bait with this guy. And sooner rather than later. Let's say for example that Sanchez does improve in 2013 over 2012 and becomes say the 20th best QB in the NFL as opposed to the 35th or 38th best that his numbers currently reflect. How does that really move us forward?
If you are in the camp who feels he can turn it all the way around and become a true asset to the franchise, a top ten guy, then of course none of this applies.
My personal position is that Geno will benefit from learning and the franchise will benefit more from a top-5 pick next year so I think Mark should continue to QB the team this year while our kids elsewhere on the team get some seasoning.
P.S. Beware of all the folks attaching themselves to your post as if it somehow validates some of the more bizarre points of view that have been expressed on the other side.
Last edited by EM31; 05-23-2013 at 11:12 AM.
Quite frankly I think some older fans have been so beaten down with futility that the scraps of success get overvalued by them and they hold on to them for dear life (ie Rex, Sanchez, AFCCGs) rather than accept the reality that a lot has happened since then, things have change and those moments are gone.
Most of us 35+yo fans didn't cut our teeth on the internet/forums/blogs/24hr news cycle/tweets, etc., like the younger fans have done. The rest of us don't know for sure how the young players (and they are all young) and the young fans react in and to the information age that is their environment.
That being said, blaming the fans for the teams performance is a stretch. This generation is used to this stuff and if they haven't adapted to it then they are weaklings (NFL competition wise) and need t be culled (from the team)