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    Sanchez, not Geno, should begin season as Jets' starting QB

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    Sanchez, not Geno, should begin season as Jets' starting QB

    • By GEORGE WILLIS
    • Last Updated: 11:30 AM, May 26, 2013
    • Posted: 12:06 AM, May 26, 2013
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    Mark Sanchez throws three interceptions during an offseason training activity, and some already have given up hope he can be a useful starting quarterback again. Such is the chatter on sport talk radio, Twitter, and among those who hide behind unnamed sources.

    Geno Smith, the 39th pick, is being treated like he was taken No. 1 and is here to save a franchise in free fall. Already, there are those who are convinced the second-round draft choice from West Virginia should be the Week 1 starter though he hasn’t taken a snap wearing anything other than shorts, T-shirts and helmets.
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    Mark Sanchez (6) and Geno Smith (7)



    The view here is the best thing that could happen to Smith and the Jets is for Sanchez to regain the confidence he once had and become an efficient enough quarterback to lead the Jets through the 2013 regular season.
    Stop laughing.
    No one remembers how many interceptions former 49ers quarterback Alex Smith threw in mini-camps or OTAs before the light bulb went on and he became a quarterback that led the 49ers to their resurgence, before losing his job to Colin Kaepernick. And the Jets don’t need Sanchez to be as good as Smith became before being injured last season.

    If Sanchez can minimize his turnovers and manage the offense the way he did in leading the Jets to back-to-back AFC Championship games in 2009 and 2010, and not be the liability he was in 2012, then Smith can watch and learn and not have the pressure of leading a rebuilding franchise.
    That might be asking a lot of Sanchez. His three interceptions during an OTA on Wednesday came in front a large media gathering and invited
    VIPs. One interception wasn’t his fault. A receiver ran the wrong pattern and wound up too close to another receiver, prompting three defensive backs to converge on the ball. The other two INTS were head-scratchers that left on-lookers wondering, “What was he thinking?”

    Otherwise, Sanchez looked the part of the starter. He worked with the first team, advised young players, and had an authoritative bounce to his step. Then he threw the interceptions, including one to a defensive lineman, prompting flashbacks of the Buttfumble.

    The Jets’ quarterback candidates — Sanchez, Smith and Greg McElroy — have been led to believe there will be an open competition for the job of starting quarterback. Matt Simms is also in camp. But the reality is, this is Sanchez’s job to lose. In fact, Sanchez doesn’t view it as a competition.
    “I’ve played long enough now I don’t worry about the quarterback on the other side of the field or the quarterback that’s in competition with you,” he said. “It doesn’t really bother me.”
    Hmmm.

    All signs point to this being a sacrificial season. Head coach Rex Ryan is in the last year of his contract and focusing more on restocking a defense that lost veterans like Bart Scott, Mike Devito, Darrelle Revis, Eric Smith, Bryan Thomas, Sione Pouha and LeRon Landry.

    Skill positions lack proven talent. Wide receiver Santonio Holmes (foot) still was limping as of this week. Second-year receiver Stephen Hill (hamstring) also is hobbling. Only along the offensive line where D’Brickashaw Ferguson, Nick Mangold, and Austin Howard return is there proven talent.
    The best thing for Smith is not to be thrown into the fire the first week of his professional career, or the first month, or first half of the season. If it becomes a total disaster, then McElroy can take over.

    The Jets need to be smart and think long-term with Smith. Rookie seasons like those enjoyed by Robert Griffin III, Andrew Luck and Russell Wilson should be viewed as the exception and not the norm.

    It would be better for Smith to watch from the sideline while learning the West Coast offense Marty Mornhinweg is implementing.
    But that will be up to Sanchez.
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    Dear George

    Enjoy rooting for Buttfumble6 someplace else after June 1 if another GM is dumb enough to add those 26 turnovers per season to his roster

    Thank you (and of course, your always reliably awful NY Post)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sg3 View Post
    Dear George

    Enjoy rooting for Buttfumble6 someplace else after June 1 if another GM is dumb enough to add those 26 turnovers per season to his roster

    Thank you (and of course, your always reliably awful NY Post)


    Yeah Manish Mehta, and Gary Myers, are just top notch journalist, and very good to the NY Jets.

    Who else could root out all those unnamed sources to bash the Jets with BS

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    Quote Originally Posted by sg3 View Post
    Dear George

    Enjoy rooting for Buttfumble6 someplace else after June 1 if another GM is dumb enough to add those 26 turnovers per season to his roster

    Thank you (and of course, your always reliably awful NY Post)
    Costello is a very solid beat reporter, best of the NY papers by far.


    FYI, you might want to tone your schtick down a bit. It's reaching SARian levels of annoying repetition. Just a friendly, non-confrontational observation.

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    That article sums up exactly what I've been thinking. Thanks for posting OP.

    We've got to start thinking more long term. Giving Geno a chance to get up to speed is the right thing to do. Sanchaz might surprise on the upside and if not then McElroy up next might surprise on the upside. If they both fail then I can see putting Geno in at the 3/4 pole.

    No matter how it plays out, unless we clearly uncover our franchise QB this year I think we draft another early in 2014.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LIJetsFan View Post
    That article sums up exactly what I've been thinking. Thanks for posting OP.

    We've got to start thinking more long term. Giving Geno a chance to get up to speed is the right thing to do. Sanchaz might surprise on the upside and if not then McElroy up next might surprise on the upside. If they both fail then I can see putting Geno in at the 3/4 pole.

    No matter how it plays out, unless we clearly uncover our franchise QB this year I think we draft another early in 2014.
    As much as I would like to see a Sanchez turnaround, whether he does or not it seems to make sense to let him take the punishment during our brutal opening schedule. Ease Smith in after the bye. It's really not looking like anyone will fare well in the opening half of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetworks View Post
    Costello is a very solid beat reporter, best of the NY papers by far.


    FYI, you might want to tone your schtick down a bit. It's reaching SARian levels of annoying repetition. Just a friendly, non-confrontational observation.
    Are you serious?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JetsNeedNewton View Post
    As much as I would like to see a Sanchez turnaround, whether he does or not it seems to make sense to let him take the punishment during our brutal opening schedule. Ease Smith in after the bye. It's really not looking like anyone will fare well in the opening half of the season.
    I've heard this "throwing the Christians to the lions" sentiment expressed before re our offense and the 1st half of the schedule. I think it's a pessimistic outlook and I don't necessarily buy into it.

    I'm very confident that Rex will have the D humming along as usual. That should keep most contests under control.

    Based on Mornhinweg's rep and record, I expect he'll have a functioning offense. RB upgrades plus OL upgrade re the run game should finally give us the running game we've lacked for the past 2 years. MM's horizontal passing game should keep the defenses honest and less able to "stack the box".

    I guess I'm just an optimist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LIJetsFan View Post
    I've heard this "throwing the Christians to the lions" sentiment expressed before re our offense and the 1st half of the schedule. I think it's a pessimistic outlook and I don't necessarily buy into it.

    I'm very confident that Rex will have the D humming along as usual. That should keep most contests under control.

    Based on Mornhinweg's rep and record, I expect he'll have a functioning offense. RB upgrades plus OL upgrade re the run game should finally give us the running game we've lacked for the past 2 years. MM's horizontal passing game should keep the defenses honest and less able to "stack the box".

    I guess I'm just an optimist.
    I agree with all the pluses, maybe I'm reading too many pessimist posts here. But on the other side of the equation are:
    - New offense, lots of new players, some shakeout time is inevitable
    - Injuries to the WR corps are already sounding like last year

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    Quote Originally Posted by JetsNeedNewton View Post
    Mark Sanchez throws three interceptions during an offseason training activity, and some already have given up hope he can be a useful starting quarterback again.
    No.

    Most of "us" who have given up on Sanchez did so after he was the worst QB in the NFL over the past four seasons, including his 112 combined fumbles and interceptions (25+ per year avg.).

    Geno Smith, the 39th pick, is being treated like he was taken No. 1
    Probably because he was the highest rated QB in the draft, was considered (pre-draft) to be a 1st Round talent, and in some minds the #1 overall talent in the Draft.

    ....and is here to save a franchise in free fall.
    Last year was free fall.

    Already, there are those who are convinced the second-round draft choice from West Virginia should be the Week 1 starter though he hasn’t taken a snap wearing anything other than shorts,
    Actually, he took ~1,000 MORE pass attampts before going pro than Mark Sanchez did, trowing only 5 more INT's (21 for Smith, 16 for Sanchez), despite playing in about 25 more games.

    The view here is the best thing that could happen to Smith and the Jets is for Sanchez to regain the confidence he once had and become an efficient enough quarterback to lead the Jets through the 2013 regular season.

    Stop laughing.
    The fact you have to actually put in writing "stop laughing" says alot.

    No one remembers how many interceptions former 49ers quarterback Alex Smith threw in mini-camps or OTAs
    Nope, we just know he lost his job to a rookie not dissimilar to Smith.

    If Sanchez can minimize his turnovers
    I thought you said "stop laughing"?

    and manage the offense the way he did in leading the Jets to back-to-back AFC Championship games in 2009 and 2010
    Seasons where he was complely carried by top 5 Defenses and dominant Top 5 running attacks? No one recalls the color coded wristband of fail Sanchez had to wear?

    Otherwise, Sanchez looked the part of the starter.
    Other than the three INT's he looked like a starter. Well, I guess he learning something starting these last four years, eh?

    He worked with the first team, advised young players, and had an authoritative bounce to his step. Then he threw the interceptions, including one to a defensive lineman, prompting flashbacks of the Buttfumble.

    But the reality is, this is Sanchez’s job to lose.
    I wouldn't bet money on that.

    In fact, Sanchez doesn’t view it as a competition.
    “I’ve played long enough now I don’t worry about the quarterback on the other side of the field or the quarterback that’s in competition with you,” he said. “It doesn’t really bother me.”
    Because he's a poor and weak competitor who silts under pressure every time.

    Skill positions lack proven talent.
    Making excuses in advance already....how predictable.

    The best player will play. Isn't that good enough for one and all?

    Stop making excuses for Sanchez. If he IS the best player, he'll play. If not, he deseves where he'll be, on the pine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetrider View Post
    Are you serious?
    Could you be a bit more specific? There were two parts of my post that could be applicable to your question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JetsNeedNewton View Post
    I agree with all the pluses, maybe I'm reading too many pessimist posts here. But on the other side of the equation are:
    - New offense, lots of new players, some shakeout time is inevitable
    - Injuries to the WR corps are already sounding like last year
    Damn! You make two good points. I'll counter:

    1. The old Sparano system was a train wreck. It can't get much worse and I'd wager that the vets on the team will appreciate a system that has proven to work and is rational.

    2. While the WR corps is ragged, I trust MM to make the best of it. Some experienced WR's might play better in the new system. Some ST/bench warmer/IR/inactive WR's might play better with MM as well. At least one UFA WR has potential to make the roster. All in all I'm not as pessimistic as some re the WR corps. Talent might rise to the top in the new OC's new system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetworks View Post
    Could you be a bit more specific? There were two parts of my post that could be applicable to your question.
    Couldn't tell if you were being serious or sarcastic.

    Some of you NYer locals know each other personally away from JI so it changes the tone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LIJetsFan View Post
    Damn! You make two good points. I'll counter:

    1. The old Sparano system was a train wreck. It can't get much worse and I'd wager that the vets on the team will appreciate a system that has proven to work and is rational.

    2. While the WR corps is ragged, I trust MM to make the best of it. Some experienced WR's might play better in the new system. Some ST/bench warmer/IR/inactive WR's might play better with MM as well. At least one UFA WR has potential to make the roster. All in all I'm not as pessimistic as some re the WR corps. Talent might rise to the top in the new OC's new system.
    Ok, I'll jump on the bandwagon while the rest of the doomsayers laugh at us:

    1) We do have some potential on the bench, see the Zach Rogers thread
    2) I keep saying that Hayden Smith is going to have a breakout year so maybe between him and the others TE may not be as bleak as others make out.
    3) If we accept your MM optimism, he may be able to compensate somewhat for marginal QB play.
    4) I have no doubt the D will be in the top 5, it's really a matter of putting points on the board. And as you pointed out earlier, our beefed up Oline, which was #3 in the NFL last year, will be even better.
    5) And that means with Ivory and Goodson (yes, he'll get by this screwup) we will have a running game.

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    If MM can have the Offense in the top half of 3 & outs and turnovers RR will have a top 5 D. No shot w/MS as Qb IMO plus he will be a distraction to the team. Every struggle by the O and media is asking who should start blah blah blah

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    There are too many ?'s on O going into 2013 for it to be anything besides sheer luck to not expect mistakes to begin the year

    With that being the case I am counting on 2013 to be $h*t ... The best chance of 2014 forward not being the same is to bring Smith in from the bye week on and let Sanchez take the beating the 1st half of 2013

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    Quote Originally Posted by JetsNeedNewton View Post
    2) I keep saying that Hayden Smith is going to have a breakout year...
    LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetworks View Post


    FYI, you might want to tone your schtick down a bit. It's reaching SARian levels of annoying repetition. Just a friendly, non-confrontational observation.


    + a billion, what a headache inducing schtick, we get it, you don't like Sanchez.

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    Hmmm, did I miss something or did Cimini decide not to print this because it didn't fit his agenda?

    Mark Sanchez's accuracy is 'sky high,' N.Y. Jets OC says


    • By Gregg Rosenthal


    Mark Sanchez threw three interceptions in a single practice session during last week's organized team activities, which caused coach Rex Ryan publicly to express disappointment. New York Jets offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg saw things differently.

    Sanchez's "completion percentage and accuracy percentage have been sky high up to date" Mornhinweg told ESPNNewYork.com's Rich Cimini last week. Yes, those comments were made on the same day as Sanchez's pick-fest.
    Between the return of the anonymous Jet and the interceptions, it was not a great week for Sanchez. But Morninweg's words are a reminder that it's only May. It's very difficult to make any evaluations based off OTA sessions, and David Garrard's release makes it far tougher to cut Sanchez.
    Then again, this quarterback battle probably isn't about Sanchez. If Geno Smith looks ready, the rookie will play. If Smith looks like a rookie, the Jets could continue to waste time with Sanchez behind center.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JetsNeedNewton View Post
    Hmmm, did I miss something or did Cimini decide not to print this because it didn't fit his agenda?

    Mark Sanchez's accuracy is 'sky high,' N.Y. Jets OC says


    • By Gregg Rosenthal


    Mark Sanchez threw three interceptions in a single practice session during last week's organized team activities, which caused coach Rex Ryan publicly to express disappointment. New York Jets offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg saw things differently.

    Sanchez's "completion percentage and accuracy percentage have been sky high up to date" Mornhinweg told ESPNNewYork.com's Rich Cimini last week. Yes, those comments were made on the same day as Sanchez's pick-fest.
    Between the return of the anonymous Jet and the interceptions, it was not a great week for Sanchez. But Morninweg's words are a reminder that it's only May. It's very difficult to make any evaluations based off OTA sessions, and David Garrard's release makes it far tougher to cut Sanchez.
    Then again, this quarterback battle probably isn't about Sanchez. If Geno Smith looks ready, the rookie will play. If Smith looks like a rookie, the Jets could continue to waste time with Sanchez behind center.


    I saw this and I didn't post it because all it proves is the MM is just another Sanchez hidden apologist!!!

    I am just kidding for the uninitiated!!!
    Last edited by Charlie Brown; 05-27-2013 at 03:07 PM.

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