Yea that makes sense!!!
All I am saying is please not lets get out our rope and lynch mob started even before a preseason game has commenced!!!
Lets let the coaches try and improve the team and then see what we have!!!
Jets fans tend to over-react to fluff pieces like this one - and I absolutely understand why.
Its been an embarrassing couple of years, thats for sure.
Mornhingweg's lack of success as a HC does not really reflect on his ability as a coordinator - some guys are great at the X's and O's but do not have the wherewithal to run the team from top to bottom - incidentally, this is exactly how we'll view Rex at the end of his tenure as Jets HC.
Sanchez is a hot button topic right now, Marty should know that when he floats opinions on Marks accuracy - especially after a 3 interception day - he has to be aware of the level of cynicism this will be met with.
In the overall scheme of things, like much of OTA's and pre-season, none of this really means very much.
Alot of the factors that go into deciding who the starting QB will be are hidden from most fans - because we only hear about what the media see's and only then; after they've put their own spin on things.
Huge fan of his ability to craft an excellent defense, probably one of the best in the league on that side of things - but the HC has to be more responsible than just the side of the ball he finds most comfortable.
The offense has been a growing problem - a trend likely to continue this season - and its really hamstringing any chances we have of making the playoffs.
Maybe there is room to say he will eventaully be a 'terrific HC' but I honestly can't see how you can make that case right now.
I thought Henning was our most scientific OC.
Hackett compared designing an offense to "making a stew."
Schottenheimer was a student, Sparano a Jackass-of-no-trades.
I really don't know what to expect from Marty, but gotta say this about him.
Every time I watched a Philly game or switched the channel during a Jets break, their offense compared to ours was night and day.
Eagles exploded off the ball, got instant separation, ran well around the edges, and everything was at rocket speed.
Why can't the Jets do that? I wondered.
When I saw who the OC was I thought, really? That guy? The knucklehead from Detroit?
They'd move the ball with ease but Vick imploded in the redzone a lot. Vick alone pissed away so many impressive drives.
Plus he's never 100% healthy.
Mark treats it like a regular Mon-Fri job and on Sundays he rests and takes a mental vacation.
Fans are jazzed to kick some ass and Mark shows up like a donkey on tranquilizers.
LOL... I can't believe people, JETS "fans", actually believe Sanchez is even MEDIOCRE!
I wish you people worked for Miami or New England or something!
With the lack of competant QB right now no oc is going to look great. All I can say is I have about 1000% more confidence that this guy will have an nfl offense than the horrible awful hire that was sparano.
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Morngwig is an okay OC he hasn't accomplished anything. He is more recycled trash. The Jets hired Rex because he was an innovative. The hired Morningwig because he wasn't controversial. He is another disciple he isn't a creative state of the art offensive mind. We are most certainly thinking in the box on O. If you want to applaud that kind of thinking when we have a rival in our division who runs the best O in the league fine. I don't agree.
If you don't think scheme matters when you have a weak armed QB who is coming off shoulder surgery you're not thinking about what the OC job is. Protect the QB who is the life blood of team. Dinger didn't do that he put his QB at risk because he wanted to run his scheme in spite of the personal.
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Norv Turner is the most obvious example. Buddy Ryan (depending on who you ask, Rex Ryan), Dick Lebeau, Dan Henning, Jason Garrett, Mike Mularky, etc...
Good Coordinators become head coaches, most head coaches get fired. Why? Most coordinators are not good head coaches.
Mornhinweg has been an OC for 11 season with 2 teams, He finished in top 10 in points 8 times, and top 5, 5 times. He's finished top 10 in yards 7 times. Again, he could be terrible for the Jets, but it's quite simplistic to say the "Eagles had a lackluster offense" without acknowledging he coached a team that lost their starting RB, starting QB, and #1 WR for significant chunks of the season.
You do have to reconcile that McCoy got hurt at the end of the season, though. Also that DeSean Jackson missed a bunch of the season, and that they were starting a 3rd round rookie QB for 6 games.I just cannot reconcile the offensive talent the Eagles had last year with a 29th ranked offense and a 4-12 record. Same goes for an 8-8 record the season before.
Also, they were top 10 in yards and points the year before (and the 3 previous years as well, except they were 11th in yards, one season). I'm not sure if you can pin the 8-8 record solely on the offense in 2011.
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Is there any fanbase that is happy with their OC? All of them seem to criticize the playcalling, decisions, etc.
I just know that Schotty and Sparano were not working out for us. So I'm glad they brought in some new blood. I doubt MM will be able to get the offense to become a high flying attack. That certainly isn't going to happen this season. But I am all for seeing this through with MM. Give him what he wants/needs and lets see what he can do.
All you need to know is that Marty Mornhinweg is now on the Jet coaching staff. It does not bode well.