Just read that article and the guy shooting should go to prison for what he did. It bears no resemblance to the Z case however because in the Z case the man shot someone that was actively beating Z senseless. Two completely different things. Also the Z case had nothing to do with stand your ground laws. It was textbook self defense. In the article it seems like the lawyer will try to use stand your ground to get an acquittal. Completely different circumstances.
IMO what those photos, along with the toxicology report does is give validity to Zimmerman's statement that he thought Martin was high and/or behaving suspiciously. Someone that takes pictures of themselves holding a gun and growing marijuana plants lends themselves to suspicion and it is conceivable that Trayvon was behaving suspiciously that night based on previous behavior.
So YOU say. You can be OK with him having that holier than thou attitude all you want, but it doesn't fly with me.
And in FAIRNESS, he truly doesn't know what happened between those two. However, I just happen to have what truths came out in the trial on my side, which is a lot more than he can say.
And as you said, grasping at straws.
Which one?
The one who kicked ass or the one who got his ass kicked?
That's a very valid point.
HOWEVER, again you can't say that Zimmerman was aware that Trayvon was "on something". I mean didn't he say that he simply "looked suspicious"? Did he ever elaborate on that? Oh wait! He never had to take the stand. Right.
Anyway, if anyone was "on something", it was Zimmerman. He was on plenty of, I guess, Anti-depressants(or some other type of medication?) at the time. I think someone mentioned it....
You will get no argument from me on this, brady's a catcher(and a pitcher).
The State's obsession with making it a MURDER instead of a Manslaughter case is what eventually doomed any hope of successful prosecution.
Now he could've also have been found innocent of Manslaughter even if they went that route initially to make that moot but we'll never really know....
Which is why I mentioned the "Lack of evidence" part.
This attempt to prosecute was doomed from the start....
Last edited by Vin; 07-15-2013 at 08:26 PM.
One interesting side-effect of the teh Zimmerman trial, we can no longer claim to have our "first black President" here in the Unites States in 2013.
Like Zimmerman, Obama is the progeny of a mixed race pairing, and hence is actually a "White African, who identifies as black".
Tis a damn shame we're going to have to keep waiting for our first black President though, but the rules are the rules, and we simply have to be consistent about such things. If Zimmerman was, as universally reproted by the media, a "White Hispanic who identifies as Hispanic", then we certainly cannot treat our President with any term less accurate or thorough, can we?
In related news, I will no longer tolerate being described as "white", when I am clearly a "Pinkish Whitish Scots/Irish American who identifies as Scottish". To call me "white" is simply racist, and will be considered thusly.
FTR...Zimmerman was not fat at the time of the incident, he packed on the pounds waiting to go on trial.
There are no "winners" in this case, even though the law got it right.
Both M and Z made mistakes in judgement that escalated this thing past what it ever should have been. Zimmerman only had to alert the police rather than confront Martin. This is the right move that EVERY one should remember. TM should have remained calm and kept it verbal instead of physical..but lets me honest, a kid that age does not usually posses that kind of restraint.
TM paid with with life, and Zimmerman's life for the most part is ruined. Like most situations, the right move made EARLY on are key.
Last edited by FF2®; 07-16-2013 at 09:41 AM.
Exactly. People are bashing the prosecution for all the wrong reasons. Bash them for unethical treatment of the defense and discovery violations if you want but as far as their competency there is nothing to discuss. They were very capable lawyers that were given an awful case to make.
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