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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishooked View Post
    Watched this Dateline episode not too long ago on Everest - actually an account of the highest death toll on a single day of climbing. Pretty chilling stuff (no pun intended....ok, somewhat)

    http://www.nbcnews.com/video/dateline/52943468#52943468
    That was excellent, thank you for posting the link. It was a great companion piece to Krakauer's book (Into Thin Air)... which again, I can't recommend enough (it's a relatively short read)

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    'Into thin air' is a great book and I'd recommend it to anyone.I work with a guy who climbed Everest and is also one of about 200 to have completed the 7 summits(highest in each continent)and Everest was not the hardest.

    if you want a recommendation to follow on from the Krakauer book you should read 'The White Spider' by Heinrich Harrer and also check out The Beckoning Silence'

    both are great books about the North Face of the Eiger and the beckoning silence focuses on the story of Toni Kurz and his climbing team who attempted to summit what was at the time considered unclimbable.You won't put either book down.

    also 'Mountains of the Mind' by Robert MacFarlane

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redlichtie View Post
    'Into thin air' is a great book and I'd recommend it to anyone.I work with a guy who climbed Everest and is also one of about 200 to have completed the 7 summits(highest in each continent)and Everest was not the hardest.

    if you want a recommendation to follow on from the Krakauer book you should read 'The White Spider' by Heinrich Harrer and also check out The Beckoning Silence'

    both are great books about the North Face of the Eiger and the beckoning silence focuses on the story of Toni Kurz and his climbing team who attempted to summit what was at the time considered unclimbable.You won't put either book down.

    also 'Mountains of the Mind' by Robert MacFarlane
    yea.....most of the guys on this site didn't get past your 1st sentence.

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    "Touching The Void" by Joe Simpson was a great true story about climbing. I highly recommend it.

    Edit: Missed the earlier posts about it.
    Last edited by crossfire; 11-20-2013 at 03:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    They say Everest, as ridiculously hard as it is, isn't the tops... K2 is much more difficult, and there's a third but the names escapes me.

    Personally I'm pretty content with Mt Washington (me, not my freakin car!), and some others in VT
    Probably Lhotse or Nanga Parbat also Denali is very, very difficult

    K2 is commonly acknowledged as the toughest.A few years ago a respected sports magazine I get rated attempting to summit K2 as officially the most dangerous sport on earth.It has a fatality rate in the region of 20 to 25%(a 1 in 4 chance of surviving is not great odds)....it has a higher death rate than base-jumping!!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peebag View Post
    yea.....most of the guys on this site didn't get past your 1st sentence.
    I was only talking to the handful that can read

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    Quote Originally Posted by adpz View Post
    Everest is hard because of the altitude; it's not a real technical climb like K2. See TOUCHING THE VOID if you want to have a climbing-related panic attack.
    Quote Originally Posted by southside View Post
    +1

    Awesome movie. Chilling story. Climbers are a ruthless bunch leaving others to die like nothing happened.
    Quote Originally Posted by adpz View Post
    In the movie Simon (the other guy) comes off as a cheery fairly level-headed guy. In the book however, with many other details, he's a bit of a sociopath.
    Simon Yates did all he could to help but ultimately realized that Simpson was going to die and he had to choose to live. Simpson has vehemently defended Yates said that he would have done the same thing had the roles been reversed.

    “People get highly emotional and irrational about the cutting of the rope. Simon did more than anybody could possibly have been asked to do to save someone’s life. Everybody misses that crucial point. He took a very pragmatic decision. He wasn’t to know I went down a crevasse. He wasn’t cutting a rope to kill me; he was cutting a rope to save himself. Then, not having died, initially he beat himself up about it. There’s a lot of guilt in surviving things and it’s irrational.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossfire View Post
    Simon Yates did all he could to help but ultimately realized that Simpson was going to die and he had to choose to live. Simpson has vehemently defended Yates said that he would have done the same thing had the roles been reversed.

    “People get highly emotional and irrational about the cutting of the rope. Simon did more than anybody could possibly have been asked to do to save someone’s life. Everybody misses that crucial point. He took a very pragmatic decision. He wasn’t to know I went down a crevasse. He wasn’t cutting a rope to kill me; he was cutting a rope to save himself. Then, not having died, initially he beat himself up about it. There’s a lot of guilt in surviving things and it’s irrational.”
    Stop being such an apologetic p()ssy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southside View Post
    Stop being such an apologetic p()ssy.
    I would never apologize for surviving. I'd have cut him loose and lived while you would have kept him hanging and died a frozen virgin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossfire View Post
    "Touching The Void" by Joe Simpson was a great true story about climbing. I highly recommend it.

    Edit: Missed the earlier posts about it.
    Funny this thread had me thinking all day about those skeletons and i ordered that very book on my kindle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southside View Post
    +1

    Awesome movie. Chilling story. Climbers are a ruthless bunch leaving others to die like nothing happened.
    I should meet the ruthless bastards that side stepped corpses at the peak with an ak47 like some twisted highlander movie" there can only be one"

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossfire View Post
    I would never apologize for surviving. I'd have cut him loose and lived while you would have kept him hanging and died a frozen virgin.
    <honey-on-a-climb> Heyyy - what you doin?

    <ss> Chillin'

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    it's actually pretty freaky to pass by a body that has frozen to death or decayed and use it as a guide

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redlichtie View Post
    Probably Lhotse or Nanga Parbat also Denali is very, very difficult

    K2 is commonly acknowledged as the toughest.A few years ago a respected sports magazine I get rated attempting to summit K2 as officially the most dangerous sport on earth.It has a fatality rate in the region of 20 to 25%(a 1 in 4 chance of surviving is not great odds)....it has a higher death rate than base-jumping!!.
    And you don't get the tourist climbers on K2 that you find on Everest. The death rate is that high and it's really only attempted by people that have made a career out of climbing mountains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetstream23 View Post
    Just in case you're wondering, a helicopter rescue for a climber in distress somewhere in the vicinity of Base Camp II will result in about a $60K bill when all is said and done. Don't ask me how I know.
    I'd rather just die

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    Quote Originally Posted by JB1089 View Post
    And you don't get the tourist climbers on K2 that you find on Everest. The death rate is that high and it's really only attempted by people that have made a career out of climbing mountains.
    Definitely no tourists or wealthy businessmen looking for something to brag about in the boardroom....elite climbers only

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