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    FBI director in the dark about IRS probe, defends surveillance programs

    Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, seemed to rattle FBI Director Robert Mueller for not knowing the specifics surrounding the IRS probe.

    “You’ve had a month now to investigate,” Jordan said. “This has been the biggest story in the country and you can’t even tell me who the lead investigator is. You can’t tell me the actions the inspector general took which are not typically how investigations are done. You can’t tell me if that’s appropriate or not. This is not speculation. This is what happened.”

    Mueller repeatedly declined to answer Jordan’s questions, saying he couldn’t because the investigation was ongoing or that he’d have to get back to the lawmakers with answers.

    When Jordan asked again,” Can you tell me who the lead investigator is?” Mueller responded, “Off the top of my head, no.”

    The day didn’t go much better for the outgoing FBI chief. He was grilled for hours by lawmakers on a number of different topics, including the federal government’s surveillance programs, the Benghazi scandal and the Boston Marathon bombings.

    Mueller defended the government's collection of millions of U.S. phone records, emails and other information as vital to the nation's national security.

    Early in the hearing, Mueller tried to make the case for the National Security Agency surveillance programs and said that law enforcement “must stay a step ahead of criminals and terrorists” while still heeding the civil liberties of Americans.

    Mueller, who is stepping down from his post in September, said that if the metadata collection program had been in place before the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, they would have identified one of the 9/11 hijackers in San Diego and most likely derailed the plot.

    But Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers Jr. said he was “not persuaded that the argument makes it OK to collect information on every call,” adding, that by Mueller’s interpretation, it would be “anything and everything goes” situation.

    Mueller also testified that the government’s controversial surveillance programs that recently surfaced complied “in full with U.S. law and with basic rights guaranteed under the Constitution.”
    The Justice Department revealed last month that it had secretly gathered emails of Fox News correspondent James Rosen and phone records of The Associated Press in an effort to crack down on leakers of classified information.

    The department later acknowledged that Attorney General Eric Holder was on board with a search warrant for Rosen's personal emails, obtained after federal officials accused him in an affidavit of being a likely criminal "co-conspirator" under a wartime law known as the Espionage Act.

    Authorities also obtained phone records for Fox News lines, including those for a number that matched the number of Rosen's parents.

    In the past week, a 29-year-old contractor leaked National Security Agency documents on the agency's collection of millions of U.S. phone records and the NSA's collection of emails and other information that people transmit online to and from foreign citizens.

    That has touched off a national debate over whether the Obama administration, in its efforts to thwart terrorism, has overstepped by using intrusive surveillance methods.

    Rep. Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., the committee's chairman, said when it comes to national security leaks, it's important to balance the need to protect secrecy with the need to let the news media do its job.

    Goodlatte also said the committee planned to find out more about the status of what the congressman called the FBI's "stalled investigation" into the attack in Benghazi, Libya that killed four Americans, including the U.S. ambassador.

    As for the Boston Marathon bombings, committee members want to know whether there was a breakdown in information-sharing between federal agencies, preventing the FBI from thwarting the explosions that killed three people and injured more than 260.



    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...#ixzz2WBXaWUT7

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    And the Democrats don't even have the intelligence to be embarrassed at this.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPrUCPTWTAo


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    The Inspector General for the the IRS is not under the FBI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cr726 View Post
    The Inspector General for the the IRS is not under the FBI.

    So what?
    Mueller said the FBI was investigating and had a high priority but did not know who was leading the investigation for the FBI. I watched the entire exchange on TV. The FBI is investigating. Who else is unimportant.
    Mueller is either lying or stupid. Either way, get him out of there.
    In the corporate world, immediate termination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cr726 View Post
    The Inspector General for the the IRS is not under the FBI.
    But the IRS is part of the Treasury Dept, so there are connections.

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    Good. Who wants the Federal Bureau of Ineptitude involved. Same guys who had the Tsarnaev brothers served to them on a platter.

    There are so many holes in the dike all you want to do is wait for it to break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MnJetFan View Post
    But the IRS is part of the Treasury Dept, so there are connections.
    Treasury isn't a part of the Dept of Justice, there is not a connection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cr726 View Post
    Treasury isn't a part of the Dept of Justice, there is not a connection.

    The truth is I doubt there is an investigation. They will let it blow over. Just like all the other scandals. The people, in general, do not care because Obama's supporters as a group do not pay taxes. They just want more free stuff. That's all that counts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by palmetto defender View Post
    The truth is I doubt there is an investigation. They will let it blow over. Just like all the other scandals. The people, in general, do not care because Obama's supporters as a group do not pay taxes. They just want more free stuff. That's all that counts.
    There was a investigation that's how all of this started. Keep on mumbling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by palmetto defender View Post
    The truth is I doubt there is an investigation. They will let it blow over. Just like all the other scandals. The people, in general, do not care because Obama's supporters as a group do not pay taxes. They just want more free stuff. That's all that counts.
    They are crack whore welfare fraud free phone using lazy fried chicken eating dirt bags.

    All 64 million of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by palmetto defender View Post
    The truth is I doubt there is an investigation. They will let it blow over. Just like all the other scandals. The people, in general, do not care because Obama's supporters as a group do not pay taxes. They just want more free stuff. That's all that counts.
    Can you regurgitate any other ridiculous Fox-fed stereotypes in your next post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by intelligentjetsfan View Post
    Can you regurgitate any other ridiculous Fox-fed stereotypes in your next post?
    Troof hurt??

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    Quote Originally Posted by FF2® View Post
    They are crack whore welfare fraud free phone using lazy fried chicken eating dirt bags.

    All 64 million of them.
    of course not..but there is no denying that this country has MANY MANY people not paying any tax and it is IMO addicting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cr726 View Post
    There was a investigation that's how all of this started. Keep on mumbling.
    here was a whistleblower. No real investigation. That was a semi post mortem. Democratic congressmen are already saying a no big deal. Drop it.
    Is Charlie Rangel YOUR congressman BTW. Explains a lot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by intelligentjetsfan View Post
    Can you regurgitate any other ridiculous Fox-fed stereotypes in your next post?


    You have the summer off. Please get back to your inaccurate lessons plans.
    Or a remedial teaching certificate.
    You're turning out high quality students. For welfare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by palmetto defender View Post
    here was a whistleblower. No real investigation. That was a semi post mortem. Democratic congressmen are already saying a no big deal. Drop it.
    Is Charlie Rangel YOUR congressman BTW. Explains a lot?
    Rep. Chris Smith (R) is my congressman, the IG did the investigation.

    The IRS is a mess, no one is going to argue that and the IRS created this by letting political entities abuse the tax-exempt status. None of them should of gotten the exemption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cr726 View Post
    Rep. Chris Smith (R) is my congressman, the IG did the investigation.

    The IRS is a mess, no one is going to argue that and the IRS created this by letting political entities abuse the tax-exempt status. None of them should of gotten the exemption.
    But, but, but, Didn't you tell me NOTHING happened???

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    Quote Originally Posted by acepepe View Post
    But, but, but, Didn't you tell me NOTHING happened???
    You were probably hung over after a night of "roofies", I meant picking up the ladies in the club. You are that guy......

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    Quote Originally Posted by palmetto defender View Post
    You have the summer off. Please get back to your inaccurate lessons plans.
    Or a remedial teaching certificate.
    You're turning out high quality students. For welfare.
    Dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FF2® View Post
    Dude.

    Dude was the Dean Martin character in "Rio Bravo".
    I don't purport to be Dino.
    And Dude is a somewhat OLD term. Hey, old guy, modernize yourself.

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