Like I said, I get it. Whatever. You're all imaginary Internet beings anyway.
Moderating a forum sucks. Moderating it correctly sucks even more. The mods here give more slack than Cleetus' jaw. So if Borgo got banned, he did it mostly to himself. That said, two years is way too excessive for a verbal tête-à-tête, imho.
I've said many times, that exact circumstance was one of my more serious weaknesses as a Moderator, and part of why you've been a far superior one than I in the Poli-Sci section, where I let the regulars at times walk all over me.
I do think you do a good job Paulie, better than I, and I've told you so often and regularly since your promotion. That doesn't mean I'll always agree or as a member of the community not take occasional exception once in a while. Nice to see the 2 years was just a placeholder, but I maintain that the community has the right to know if a guy many of really like gets sidelined for two years. We, of course, can't know it's only a palceholder, nor does the banned guy in question....which is why such long placeholders are often a bad idea.
My unrequested and probably unwanted $0.01 of former Mod advice Paulie, is that if this thread makes you feel how this sounds, you're already too emotionally invested in the situation to be impartial. It's not a reflection on you personally, it's a reflection on the community as a whole. No one questions the ban, no one. The length is what was concerning to most, as the replies clearly show.Based on the responses in this thread, I have to say its disappointing and a little bit saddening. Borgo completely blew up at me in a way that has guaranteed automatic permanent-bans for other posters before him. Green Jets & Ham, anyone? And yet I'm the bad guy. I'm the child. He's the victim of a tyrannical mod. I get it. It's good to know where you stand in the eyes of the masses.
Your GJ&H reference is an apt one. I (had I stayed a Mod) would have unbanned him long long ago, regardless of his desire to come back or not, or his surely permanent loathing of me or not.
It's not about you, or me, it's about the community, and trying to understand the other folks here, forgive and forget, and giving even the worst the benefit of the doubt and another chance. I may really dislike FF, for example, but despite what I say, I'd probably'd never really ban him for more than a day or two, no matter what bluster I sperge. He's as much a part of the community as I, like it or not. And remember, he's the guy who posted here for years with a "Hey Fatboy" comment directed at me the entire time. I certainly understand how annoying it can be to feel personally insulted by a poster.
I'm sorry you took it as an insult on your character, although I certainly see how you could. For that, you have my personal apology. Only thing I can offer.
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I have a best friend, I've been buds with since 7th grade= nearly 30 years.
The last time we came to blows was about 12 years ago, now we don't swing on each other lately, still for what ever reasons, we have to take a 2 week to 6 month time out from each other, occasionally. I love that guy, and we both know we count on the other when times call for support. Still Ray can be quite a dick some times, I take the good with the bad and move on.
I like how Sammy put it, "Don't Do The Crime If You Can't Do The Time".
I don't think anyone blames you or anyone else for banning him. Wasn't GJH actually physically threatening people and just acting like a total lunatic? Not comparable, really.
Was it a childish outburst by BG? Yup.
But how was it any different than any other post that gets someone a 2 week vaca?
I was a mod for years, and I'm currently an Admin on another Jets site.
The bulk of the work lies mainly with the maintenance of the forum software and the database.
Moderating users (making decisions and dealing with petty squabbles) isn't as intensive as it's made out to be. If you don't have the grapefruits to deal with people on the internet with a clean conscience, then you're not cut out for this racket.
This isn't a dig at anybody...just giving my opinion because i've had experience in these matters.
From what i've seen, the current mods have been doing a decent job here since i began my tenure....which makes it even more surprising to see all the butthurt in this thread. Not only should the masses "let it go" per se, but the mods should too.
I didn't see anything close to the GJH rant, but I could have missed it.
I was trying to find a Stokes post where he once called me a "three nutted, one toof, slope shouldered, chicken sh*t", all in one sentence.
Any 20 guy something that listens to Frank Sinatra is my kinda of guy and can't be all bad.
I hope to some day Vote for BR, of course I don't know who he is. Just some imaginary internet guy I suppose.
I just today realized that Caltron and Paulie are two different posters.
My 1 cent surely means nothing.. But as a non reg hangar who doesn't follow this borgo guy, or someone who has no allegiance to any mods, maybe i could offer a impartial view..how about lifetime probation.. Since many here claim it was a completely random bad day he insulted a mod, he surely is very sorry and wouldn't do it again.. In return if he did do it again he gets the life ban and nobody can cry about it if that happened..