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    Quote Originally Posted by JETFAN290 View Post
    Bob Costas is a self absorbed pain in the ass. He inserts himself into every sporting event in the country. He actually believes fans tune in to watch or hear his latest rant. He grew up rooting for the Yankees as a kid but he portrays himself as being Mickey Mantle's roommate from 1961 to 1964.
    lol

    Did you ever see the video of the satellite feed before the broadcast when Bob Costas was holding a mirror and combing his hair for 15 minutes straight? Guy is a complete narcissist - him and Francesa should both deserve their own wing in the narcissisitic sportscaster hall of fame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyn Jet View Post
    Its not bad from the perspective of 8 games under .500 given the money ownership is spending on players on the field, the talent level being trotted out there, and the handful of young potential core players. The team is showing some fight, Harvey and Wheeler have me hopeful, and the Ike demotion and recall may have woke some guys up that no ones safe.

    I don't think any fan is satisfied, but instead of being miserable, I prefer focusing on the few positives.
    Agreed - they've recaptured my interest somewhat. I don't expect them to make the playoffs, but if nothing else, they've reminded me that I haven't been to a game in a while.

    Giving credit where its due, they're playing some good ball recently.

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    Say what you will ... IMHO 8 games under .500 is the definition of bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
    Say what you will ... IMHO 8 games under .500 is the definition of bad.
    are those bars in your avatar or are they pinstripes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
    Say what you will ... IMHO 8 games under .500 is the definition of bad.
    Still tough to watch sometime, but certainly getting better. With a little luck they could make it interesting, it's a long shot but a shot none the less.

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    Harvey, Wheeler, Niese, Gee, Hefner - solid rote for 2014

    D'Arnaud replaces Buck as the primary catcher with Recker the backup

    Satin, Murph, Wright and either Omar or Ruben depending on which one wins the SS job

    OF should get some help from the system or from FA... but Young is a keeper that Sandy signed out of nowhere and Byrd is having a great season. If I'm Sandy, I try and move Duda and Byrd at the deadline to a team that is desperate for a bat and add some talent for 2014 and the future in the exchange

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    Quote Originally Posted by sg3 View Post
    Harvey, Wheeler, Niese, Gee, Hefner - solid rote for 2014

    D'Arnaud replaces Buck as the primary catcher with Recker the backup

    Satin, Murph, Wright and either Omar or Ruben depending on which one wins the SS job

    OF should get some help from the system or from FA... but Young is a keeper that Sandy signed out of nowhere and Byrd is having a great season. If I'm Sandy, I try and move Duda and Byrd at the deadline to a team that is desperate for a bat and add some talent for 2014 and the future in the exchange
    Rotation is solid
    Bullpen is still bad
    Your SS options are both lousy
    Byrd and Duda don't have that much value - middling prospect at best for either
    Young has been nice - wasn't a signing though, traded Colin McHugh for him

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    Quote Originally Posted by adb280z View Post
    Rotation is solid
    Bullpen is still bad
    Your SS options are both lousy
    Byrd and Duda don't have that much value - middling prospect at best for either
    Young has been nice - wasn't a signing though, traded Colin McHugh for him
    Rotation will have either montero or syndergard in it by middle of 14 the latest as well. I believe montero will be traded with wilmer flores and another prospect for a big OF bat like cargo or giancarlo stanton. Both short stops can field the **** out of the ball so when the mets add bats to the OF we won't need a big bat at ss. THe mets are set at closer and have a few young arms that may come up this year to show what they can do in relief. BP will mostly likely be finished off in FA though....1-2 big bats and 1-2 Solid RP and the mets are in contention for division next year, with the avg age being around 27.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sg3 View Post
    Harvey, Wheeler, Niese, Gee, Hefner - solid rote for 2014

    D'Arnaud replaces Buck as the primary catcher with Recker the backup

    Satin, Murph, Wright and either Omar or Ruben depending on which one wins the SS job

    OF should get some help from the system or from FA... but Young is a keeper that Sandy signed out of nowhere and Byrd is having a great season. If I'm Sandy, I try and move Duda and Byrd at the deadline to a team that is desperate for a bat and add some talent for 2014 and the future in the exchange
    Montero, Meija and Familia will try to push into the rotation/bullpen as well. Syndegaard can possibly be up in mid-2014 pending successful AAA.

    Cant see Satin taking over 1B although he can possible platoon with Duda or Davis--if he ever staighten out.

    Flores will probably push Murph out creating more tradebait.

    Den Dekker/Puello can push for an OF position if Byrd doesnt return.
    Also with over $50M in salaries coming off the books, they can go outside via a FA signing or a trade whereby we pick up salary for an OF or SS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sg3 View Post
    are those bars in your avatar or are they pinstripes?
    Nice!

    I've been a Mets fan since 1976.

    My turn to analyze your stance on the Mets.

    You are coddling the Wilpon and Alderson Regime. You are telling them "...8 games under .500 is not bad...". This is the same as telling the bully to "...go ahead and take my lunch..." It is license for them to continue their lame "...10 year plan of mediocrity...". It is you giving your approval for them to run the Mets purely for profit with no thought of winning. For spending nothing and praying for lightning in a bottle.

    IMHO you are soft.

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    Met fan since 1962 pal and will be one until they bury me at Calverton

    I think you should consider switching to some fourth.place team with that 230 million.dollar payroll and bunches of aged overpaid names (mostly injured)

    I'll stick with the little team in Queens finally recovering from the money throwing Minaya years and building wisely

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
    Nice!

    I've been a Mets fan since 1976.

    My turn to analyze your stance on the Mets.

    You are coddling the Wilpon and Alderson Regime. You are telling them "...8 games under .500 is not bad...". This is the same as telling the bully to "...go ahead and take my lunch..." It is license for them to continue their lame "...10 year plan of mediocrity...". It is you giving your approval for them to run the Mets purely for profit with no thought of winning. For spending nothing and praying for lightning in a bottle.

    IMHO you are soft.
    You clearly show no knowkedge on how to rebuild a team properly...while be strapped financially. The mets tried to compete while not adding any payroll until the youth was ready to take over and all the ****ty contracts are off the books. Next year the mets will have a payroll of 50 mill with 50 to spend one of the better young rotations in the league and and a top young closer. The mets were stuck between having a ton of wasted payroll and no money to spend (madoff) it needed to be stripped down and started over which is exactly what they did. 2014 and beyond is when I will start making my grades on alderson but I am more than satisfied in the direction they are in. So being 8 games under may not be acceptable but I do see the big picture and that's what the last two seasons were about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RevisCroWilson View Post

    You clearly show no knowkedge on how to rebuild a team properly
    Looks to me like we stole the blue prints from the Royals and the Pirates.

    and the foundation of those blueprints is about turning a profit and not winning games

    Quote Originally Posted by RevisCroWilson View Post

    ...while be strapped financially. The mets tried to compete while not adding any payroll until the youth was ready to take over and all the ****ty contracts are off the books.
    Being financially strapped did not stop the Mets from trying to build a casino next to the new Shea and then settling for a Mall. because casino's and malls are inexpensive. I own a dozen of each

    yup... the Wilpon family is broke



    Quote Originally Posted by RevisCroWilson View Post


    Next year the mets will have a payroll of 50 mill with 50 to spend one of the better young rotations in the league and and a top young closer. The mets were stuck between having a ton of wasted payroll and no money to spend (madoff) it needed to be stripped down and started over which is exactly what they did. 2014 and beyond is when I will start making my grades on alderson but I am more than satisfied in the direction they are in. So being 8 games under may not be acceptable but I do see the big picture and that's what the last two seasons were about.

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    so the 2011, 2012 and 2013 sub .500 seasons are good for you.

    Not me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
    Looks to me like we stole the blue prints from the Royals and the Pirates.
    I'd hate to have a team like the Pirates. Young, talented and currently have around the 4th most wins in the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
    Nice!

    I've been a Mets fan since 1976.

    My turn to analyze your stance on the Mets.

    You are coddling the Wilpon and Alderson Regime. You are telling them "...8 games under .500 is not bad...". This is the same as telling the bully to "...go ahead and take my lunch..." It is license for them to continue their lame "...10 year plan of mediocrity...". It is you giving your approval for them to run the Mets purely for profit with no thought of winning. For spending nothing and praying for lightning in a bottle.

    IMHO you are soft.
    I am pretty sure that attendance this year is disappointing. THAT is a message to ownership that status quo will not be accepted.

    Whether they choose to pay remains to be seen.

    BUT, the direction of youth has been somewhat successful. If you cannot allow fans to at least enjoy that piece of it, YOU are the bully

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetsfreak10 View Post
    I'd hate to have a team like the Pirates. Young, talented and currently have around the 4th most wins in the game.
    I think he's referring to the Pirates of the last 20 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetsfreak10 View Post
    I'd hate to have a team like the Pirates. Young, talented and currently have around the 4th most wins in the game.
    And they have not participated in a MLB playoff game since 1992.

    Is that what you want?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Dierking View Post
    I am pretty sure that attendance this year is disappointing. THAT is a message to ownership that status quo will not be accepted.

    Whether they choose to pay remains to be seen.

    BUT, the direction of youth has been somewhat successful. If you cannot allow fans to at least enjoy that piece of it, YOU are the bully
    perhaps.

    I often come across that way and I apologize.

    Do you believe this TEAM is "NOT BAD" or do you think we have a couple of all-stars surrounded by the Binghamton Mets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
    perhaps.

    I often come across that way and I apologize.

    Do you believe this TEAM is "NOT BAD" or do you think we have a couple of all-stars surrounded by the Binghamton Mets?
    No offense meant.

    This team is in a critical stage, and they need to figure its nucleus soon. Consider this 1983, just before they made the Hernandez trade.

    The Mets have shown in the past that the way to build is through pitching, and it appears they can build that way again. They will also need to use some of that as traid bait.

    The free agent class coming up is relatively thin. The Mets need another 30 plus homerun threat in the line-up. They need to find a solution at shortstop.

    If you can get those 2 pieces you can fins where a Lagares, where an Eric Young, etc may fit in.

    That said, those pieces don't grow on trees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Dierking View Post
    No offense meant.

    This team is in a critical stage, and they need to figure its nucleus soon. Consider this 1983, just before they made the Hernandez trade.

    The Mets have shown in the past that the way to build is through pitching, and it appears they can build that way again. They will also need to use some of that as traid bait.

    The free agent class coming up is relatively thin. The Mets need another 30 plus homerun threat in the line-up. They need to find a solution at shortstop.

    If you can get those 2 pieces you can fins where a Lagares, where an Eric Young, etc may fit in.

    That said, those pieces don't grow on trees.
    I agree with the bolded part. As in 1983, we're now starting to see the beginnings of a comeback with this franchise, and it will require a little more time and some FA buys or trade deals. As in the early 80s, a new GM (Cashen) needed time to re-stock the minors and then judiciously add key vets (Hernandez, Carter, Knight, Ojeda) to go with the young studs. Alderson has likewise built up the minors (albeit mostly in the pitching dept.) from what was one of the worst in MLB and has also made terrific trades to get Wheeler, Syndegaard, and D'Arnaud while also finding vets Young and Byrd to help out in the present and keep this team on the fringes. I regret that a trade of one of our blue chip young arms will be necessary to land a big bat, and I'll cringe when it happens. But I trust Alderson to get the best value when it's time to strike. I'm liking this team's prospects over the next several years.

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