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    Quote Originally Posted by batman10023 View Post
    You provide me with too much entertainment to put u on ignore.

    What are the odds of a congressional investigation?
    I am not sure if this is another display of ignorance on your behalf or a joke? What do you consider entertainment? I hope, as you previously posted, you are not referring to possible DOJ/congressional investigations? If that's the case, how many more congressional inquiries do I need to post to illustrate my point?

    As for odds, I don't know or care. It will depend on the outcome of the on-going investigations. I am not elected to Congress as a Member of the Senate or House. Nor are you. So, once again, what we think doesn't matter. The only opionions that do matter also have the power of the gavel to make those investigations a reality -- whether you think it is a wise use of resources or not. Frankly, and trust me on this, they don't give a damn what you think.

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    More on AH.....

    Amazing how this Patriot scumbag got away with his behavior for so long.....

    Another Gainesville incident involving Hernandez comes to light

    Posted by Mike Florio on July 1, 2013, 11:31 PM EDT

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    Jeremy Foley has some explaining to do.

    The Florida Athletic Director recently took issue with the emerging reports of former Gator tight end Aaron Hernandez’s conduct while in Gainesville. And now a new report has emerged.

    According to the Wall Street Journal (yes, the Wall Street Journal), Hernandez was involved in an incident only months after arriving at school, before ever playing for the Gators. A police report obtained Monday by the Journal reveals that Hernandez, who was only 17 at the time, ordered two “alcoholic drinks” at a restaurant known as The Swamp. Hernandez later claimed he hadn’t ordered the drinks.

    A “verbal altercation” ensued, and Hernandez eventually was asked to leave. An employee, Michael Taphorn, escorted Hernandez out of the building. Once outside, Hernandez claimed that Taphorn “got in his face.” So, obviously, Hernandez slugged him. Taphorn suffered a ruptured eardrum.

    Hernandez wasn’t arrested. Because he was underage, he most likely would have been prosecuted as a juvenile.

    It’s unclear whether NFL teams knew about the incident. It’s possible that the report was kept tightly under wraps in 2010 (after all, the higher a player gets drafted, the better for the program).

    Even if teams knew about the alleged punch to the head of the restaurant employee, it remains difficult if not impossible to project murder from this type of misbehavior. It’s hard not to wonder how many other college-town police departments looked the other way when players from the football team did something they shouldn’t have done, with the information never to come to light because the players involved never went on to kill anyone.

    Allegedly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetssjumets View Post
    Amazing how this Patriot scumbag got away with his behavior for so long.....

    Another Gainesville incident involving Hernandez comes to light

    Posted by Mike Florio on July 1, 2013, 11:31 PM EDT

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    Jeremy Foley has some explaining to do.

    The Florida Athletic Director recently took issue with the emerging reports of former Gator tight end Aaron Hernandez’s conduct while in Gainesville. And now a new report has emerged.

    According to the Wall Street Journal (yes, the Wall Street Journal), Hernandez was involved in an incident only months after arriving at school, before ever playing for the Gators. A police report obtained Monday by the Journal reveals that Hernandez, who was only 17 at the time, ordered two “alcoholic drinks” at a restaurant known as The Swamp. Hernandez later claimed he hadn’t ordered the drinks.

    A “verbal altercation” ensued, and Hernandez eventually was asked to leave. An employee, Michael Taphorn, escorted Hernandez out of the building. Once outside, Hernandez claimed that Taphorn “got in his face.” So, obviously, Hernandez slugged him. Taphorn suffered a ruptured eardrum.

    Hernandez wasn’t arrested. Because he was underage, he most likely would have been prosecuted as a juvenile.

    It’s unclear whether NFL teams knew about the incident. It’s possible that the report was kept tightly under wraps in 2010 (after all, the higher a player gets drafted, the better for the program).

    Even if teams knew about the alleged punch to the head of the restaurant employee, it remains difficult if not impossible to project murder from this type of misbehavior. It’s hard not to wonder how many other college-town police departments looked the other way when players from the football team did something they shouldn’t have done, with the information never to come to light because the players involved never went on to kill anyone.

    Allegedly.
    and yet, with ALL this stuff that they obviously knew about, and with ALL the honest, ethical and responsible NFL teams passing on this thug, the Patriot Way found a way to draft him, enable him, harbor his criminal acts for four seasons and even reward him with a 41 million dollar extension (including the required 50K kickback to the Kraft Crime Family Enrichment Foundation)

    the stench emitting from Sucksboro is beyond anything the EPA can fix

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    If the police have not yet found the gun, why have they not searched Patriots team facilities?

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    They probably need to perform a cavity search on Brady since he is known to have hidden a few er "pistols" there from time to time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetssjumets View Post
    I am not sure if this is another display of ignorance on your behalf or a joke? What do you consider entertainment? I hope, as you previously posted, you are not referring to possible DOJ/congressional investigations? If that's the case, how many more congressional inquiries do I need to post to illustrate my point?

    As for odds, I don't know or care. It will depend on the outcome of the on-going investigations. I am not elected to Congress as a Member of the Senate or House. Nor are you. So, once again, what we think doesn't matter. The only opionions that do matter also have the power of the gavel to make those investigations a reality -- whether you think it is a wise use of resources or not. Frankly, and trust me on this, they don't give a damn what you think.
    I find your non stop posting about the patriots way stuff to be amusing.

    I find it amusing because it does not impact the game on the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by batman10023 View Post
    I find your non stop posting about the patriots way stuff to be amusing.

    I find it amusing because it does not impact the game on the field.
    It is the off season Batman. Things are slow all around.

    The Patriots fan base have for years been shoving down our collective throats the idea that the Patriots do everything better and smarter than the rest ofc the NFL. Now the wisdom behind their means and methods is being rightly questioned.

    Sorry but an almost infinite amount of in your face and "back-atcha" is warranted here.

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--do...184406099.html


    the funeral of Mr Lloyd

    Kraft and his crime family issued a statement as to their sympathies for the grief of this family. Of course none of the Patriot Way Organized Crime family could find the time to attend this funeral and extend their sympathy in person. Total phonies and scumbags from the top to the bottom this cesspool

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    Quote Originally Posted by EM31 View Post
    It is the off season Batman. Things are slow all around.

    The Patriots fan base have for years been shoving down our collective throats the idea that the Patriots do everything better and smarter than the rest ofc the NFL. Now the wisdom behind their means and methods is being rightly questioned.

    Sorry but an almost infinite amount of in your face and "back-atcha" is warranted here.
    i guess the patriots fans i deal with just focus on the wins/losses and superbowls and division titles.

    i respond back with spy gate. that's all i got.

    the pats took a chance on a shady player. for a few years it looked like a great bet. now they have egg on their face. as long as it helps the jets win against them that's all i care about.

    nobody believes this patriots way crap or this play like a jet crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sg3 View Post
    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--do...184406099.html


    the funeral of Mr Lloyd

    Kraft and his crime family issued a statement as to their sympathies for the grief of this family. Of course none of the Patriot Way Organized Crime family could find the time to attend this funeral and extend their sympathy in person. Total phonies and scumbags from the top to the bottom this cesspool
    Yep. Maybe BK, if he could pull himself away from his gold digger GF, could cut a check to the Lloyd family to help them since their main breadwinner was gunned down by a guy the Pats* vetted, drafted, paid, and looked the other way despite his obvious criminal and murderous ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by batman10023 View Post
    i guess the patriots fans i deal with just focus on the wins/losses and superbowls and division titles.

    i respond back with spy gate. that's all i got.

    the pats took a chance on a shady player. for a few years it looked like a great bet. now they have egg on their face. as long as it helps the jets win against them that's all i care about.

    nobody believes this patriots way crap or this play like a jet crap.
    This d0uche at Deadspin does.

    http://deadspin.com/dear-columnists-...lshi-637957310

    Dear Columnists: Enough With This “Patriot Way” Bull****
    It's been a while since we did a proper fisking of a terrible piece of sportswriting. Actually, we probably did it a few hours ago, but no matter: This putrid column from ESPN's Ashley Fox deserves special recognition. Fox, whose archive reads like a First Take producer's brainstorming session, has taken the New England Patriots to task for employing an alleged murderer when they did not know that they were employing a potential alleged murderer.

    The New England Patriots seem to be trying to do the right thing. Now. Now that they know Aaron Hernandez has been accused of executing an associate. Now that their star tight end is behind bars facing murder and weapons charges, denied bail and awaiting a trial that likely won't start until next year.
    I know! The Patriots cut Hernandez NOW, when they have reasonable evidence that he probably killed people? Way to go, you Johnny-come-latelies! Awfully easy to cast the man aside now that he's been accused of a horrific crime, but it takes men of real grit to assemble a team of futuristic pre-cogs, sift through data analyses, and come to the conclusion that they preemptively should cut one of the best tight ends in football because they can reasonably assume he'll be participating in gangland-style murders mere months hence. That's how Ted Thompson does it!

    New England has acted wisely and admirably in the immediate aftermath of this heinous story, but it can't be forgotten that New England was the organization that employed Hernandez.
    The Patriots acted wisely and admirably, BUT LET'S NOT FORGET HOW UNWISE AND UNADMIRABLE THEY WERE.

    They were the team that picked Hernandez 113th overall — after 31 other teams had repeatedly passed on a player who was viewed as a first-round talent — because he was big and strong and could catch the football and make their team better.
    I know! It's almost as if they viewed him as a devalued asset that could offer them huge returns at a relatively low investment! And here I thought all NFL teams assembled draft boards simply by measuring TEWBOWNESS.

    New England tarnished its brand by choosing Hernandez twice, and it will take more than a jersey exchange to wipe that tarnish away. It will take time. And better choices. And fewer risks... Hernandez was part of the Patriot Way that seems to have gone awry.
    This won't be the first time you hear Fox refer to the Patriots "brand," as if Darren Rovell ghostwrote her copy. Unless your name is Phil Simms, the name "New England Patriots" usually connotes the following things:

    • Spygate
    • Tuck Rule
    • Cutting players the instant they say, "Boy, it sure would be nice to have a raise, coach!"
    • Bill Belichick banging your mom
    • Bill Belichick refusing your handshake
    • Bill Belichick shoving your replacement official
    • Robert Kraft talking with that weird frog voice of his
    • Tom Brady petting a goat
    • Simmons *****ing about the Helmet Catch
    • A hilariously weak division

    You know what I don't think about when I think about the Patriots? INTEGRITY. I don't think about that because no football team can possibly keep 50 Mother Teresas on its roster and hope to win a football game. Mother Teresa is dead and can't catch the ball for ****. Like any business, NFL teams choose employees based on value. If their personal baggage outweighs their on-field value (or if they can't play because they'll be spending the next 40 years in Poundtown), they let them go. There is a fundamental misunderstanding of what the "Patriot Way" is here. It doesn't mean WE ONLY START UNDRAFTED HUSTLE PLAYERS NO GLORY BOYS, it means, "we will be the most bloodlessly unsentimental team in football and that will be how we win." It's not some magical torah of rules for winning both in football and life. It's just a business plan. Taken in that context, drafting Aaron Hernandez makes perfect sense.

    Team owner Robert Kraft is to blame. So is coach Bill Belichick. They made the choice to gamble on Hernandez, and while they could not have foreseen that one day their star tight end would be charged with murder as well as five gun-related offenses, they knew he had issues, including reported multiple failed drug tests while Hernandez was at Florida.
    Look at that paragraph again and marvel at how stupid it is. While they couldn't have possibly known he'd be a murderer, THEY TOTES SHOULD HAVE KNOWN SOMETHING WAS UP. Failing a handful of drug tests (at Florida, no less) probably shouldn't lead you to assume that ****ing MURDER is just around the corner. Murder is really going the extra mile as far as being a ****bag is concerned.

    Kraft is one of the most respected owners in the NFL, yet his organization — his brand — is now indelibly tarnished.
    OH THE BRAND OH NO IT'S TARNISHED ALL THE SILVER POLISH IN THE WORLD...

    He did the right thing once Hernandez was arrested...
    Which is kind of what matters, yes? The Patriots acted wisely and admirably, but couldn't they have done MORE? Couldn't they have filled Hernandez's roster spot with a cancer baby?

    New England can and will overcome this...
    Indeed, probably by signing other undervalued players with questionable physical skills or shady backgrounds. Guess whose defense would suck even harder without Aqib Talib?

    ...but there will forever be a stain on the franchise that neither the swift release of Hernandez nor the exchange of jerseys can erase.
    THE TARNISH, IT IS SO STRONG.

    Odin Lloyd is dead.
    He is?

    He was buried on Saturday.
    No way! I HAD NO IDEA THE SITUATION WAS SO GRAVE.

    Hernandez was part of the Patriot Way...
    THERE IS NO PATRIOT WAY IT'S JUST A WAY. THERE'S NO SPECIAL STAMP ON OPERATING A FOOTBALL TEAM WITH PRAGMATIC EFFICIENCY.

    ...because he could catch passes and make the team more successful. The franchise, led by Kraft, needs to recalibrate and be more selective going forward, starting now.
    Yeah, Patriots. Stop employing future murderers! They couldn't be easier to spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by batman10023 View Post
    i guess the patriots fans i deal with just focus on the wins/losses and superbowls and division titles.

    i respond back with spy gate. that's all i got.

    the pats took a chance on a shady player. for a few years it looked like a great bet. now they have egg on their face. as long as it helps the jets win against them that's all i care about.

    nobody believes this patriots way crap or this play like a jet crap.
    Except for the fact that some of those wins may be directly traceable to "short cuts" taken by the organization. Whether Spygate or Glockgate here. You cannot go around taking bows and accepting acclaim for your acumen and then walk away for the downside when some of those decisions go south on you. This is the price that they have to pay. Maybe if that price is high they might make different choices in the future. Certainly there is no benefit for anyone to make the price of these decisions nonexistent or small.

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    Deon Branch on Hernandez.

    “Aaron is a great guy and a great friend of mine and a great teammate,” Branch told The Herald “I love him to death, and it was shocking to hear his name involved in this situation. I truly hope and pray he doesn’t have any dealings with it.”

    On Saturday, Branch didn’t have anything negative to say about Hernandez.

    “That’s my guy, man,” Branch said of Hernandez. “That’s my guy. It really shocked me. He was a great kid. Overall, I hope the best that he isn’t involved with it and I hope he gets his name cleared, but most importantly I send my prayers and condolences out to the Lloyd family.”

    Branch said there was nothing in his association with Hernandez on or off the field that led him to believe he was capable of murder, but details recently emerging from Hernandez’s past seem to suggest otherwise.


    One has to hope that Hernandez doesn't also 'love you to death.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerfish View Post
    Deon Branch on Hernandez.

    “Aaron is a great guy and a great friend of mine and a great teammate,” Branch told The Herald “I love him to death, and it was shocking to hear his name involved in this situation. I truly hope and pray he doesn’t have any dealings with it.”

    On Saturday, Branch didn’t have anything negative to say about Hernandez.

    “That’s my guy, man,” Branch said of Hernandez. “That’s my guy. It really shocked me. He was a great kid. Overall, I hope the best that he isn’t involved with it and I hope he gets his name cleared, but most importantly I send my prayers and condolences out to the Lloyd family.”

    Branch said there was nothing in his association with Hernandez on or off the field that led him to believe he was capable of murder, but details recently emerging from Hernandez’s past seem to suggest otherwise.


    One has to hope that Hernandez doesn't also 'love you to death.'

    A "great kid" isn't a serial killer, but I guess when you've spent so much time in a locker room filled with PED cheaters like Harrison, drug addicts like Nick K., cheaters and marriage wreckers like BB, it's hard to tell the difference between a homicidal manic and a guy you'd let babysit your kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerfish View Post
    Deon Branch on Hernandez.

    “Aaron is a great guy and a great friend of mine and a great teammate,” Branch told The Herald “I love him to death, and it was shocking to hear his name involved in this situation. I truly hope and pray he doesn’t have any dealings with it.”

    On Saturday, Branch didn’t have anything negative to say about Hernandez.

    “That’s my guy, man,” Branch said of Hernandez. “That’s my guy. It really shocked me. He was a great kid. Overall, I hope the best that he isn’t involved with it and I hope he gets his name cleared, but most importantly I send my prayers and condolences out to the Lloyd family.”

    Branch said there was nothing in his association with Hernandez on or off the field that led him to believe he was capable of murder, but details recently emerging from Hernandez’s past seem to suggest otherwise.


    One has to hope that Hernandez doesn't also 'love you to death.'
    So this brings up the question that came up in another thread: What if his lawyer pulls an OJ and gets him off? Do the Pats take him back? After all, he has been "convicted" by the press reports but even the judge agreed the evidence is circumstantial. Yes I think he did it... but what if?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JetsNeedNewton View Post
    So this brings up the question that came up in another thread: What if his lawyer pulls an OJ and gets him off? Do the Pats take him back? After all, he has been "convicted" by the press reports but even the judge agreed the evidence is circumstantial. Yes I think he did it... but what if?
    What if he gets off? Here's a preview:


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    Any word on whether the gun's been found?

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    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...artner=ya5nbcs

    what did Teblow know and when did he know it?

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    Aaron Hernandez - TE - Free Agent
    A person "of interest to investigators" in the Odin Lloyd murder investigation died in a car accident Sunday.
    Thaddeus Singleton III's death was ruled an accident, and it's "unclear" if he knew of investigators' interest in his connection to the case. Singleton was driving a car registered to Hernandez's uncle, who is Singleton's father-in-law. It's unknown how the death might affect the prosecution's case.
    Probably unrelated, but at this point, who knows.

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