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    Quote Originally Posted by Dcat View Post
    Simpson was a hall-of-famer who set multiple records; a name everyone, even non-football fans knew. Hernandez was a nothing with a couple of solid seasons. Huge difference.
    And showed he could still cut pretty well even though he was retired..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dcat View Post
    Simpson was a hall-of-famer who set multiple records; a name everyone, even non-football fans knew. Hernandez was a nothing with a couple of solid seasons. Huge difference.
    And as sad as it is to say...he killed his beautiful blonde white wife in Cali...the victim in this case is a another young man of color, and it happened in Attleboro MA. Once you get past the rich football player aspect, for the average American it's just not that interesting.

    Except for the three posters who haven't left this thread since it happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by detjetsfan View Post
    Do you guys remember Mike Tice in Minnesota getting crucified in the 2004-2005 timeframe for the love boat incident with Culpeper and McKinnie? I do.


    All those guys did was rent a boat for one night, smoke weed and bang some whores. Small potatoes compared to Aaron Hernandez executing and shooting multiple victims while a New England Patriot. The Patriot-loving media says NOTHING about Belichick and the Pats Organization.
    Yeah. I remember the good old days when we would be appalled at stuff like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FF2 View Post
    And as sad as it is to say...he killed his beautiful blonde white wife in Cali...the victim in this case is a another young man of color, and it happened in Attleboro MA. Once you get past the rich football player aspect, for the average American it's just not that interesting.

    Except for the three posters who haven't left this thread since it happened.
    Always wonder what those chowd trolls, those Belicheat loving scumbags, do in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FF2 View Post
    And as sad as it is to say...he killed his beautiful blonde white wife in Cali...the victim in this case is a another young man of color, and it happened in Attleboro MA. Once you get past the rich football player aspect, for the average American it's just not that interesting.

    Except for the three posters who haven't left this thread since it happened.
    Wow! Invoking race into the debate. I guess the life of the "colored" victim is less than that of the beautiful blonde white Cali woman according to you despite your introductory clause?

    You NE trolls can only hope the AH case is not that interesting for the average American. I respectfully disagree. Just go ask the ordinary citizens whose aleged crimes captured national attention -- Casey Anthony, Jodi Arias, etc.

    I know you wish this story will go away as a NE fan but that's wishful thinking, troll. Meanwhile, you should be the last to talk given the tens of thousands of posts by you on a rival's site. Now, gfy.....

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    Search warrants describe 'argumentative' Aaron Hernandez


    Police arriving at Aaron Hernandez's home on Monday, June 17, got a hostile welcome from the former Patriots tight end, according to more 150 pages of documents unsealed by court order on Tuesday afternoon. Hernandez went into his house, slammed the door and locked it when investigators told him they were looking into a person's death. He did not ask whose death was being investigated, and officers said in the that "Mr. Hernandez's demeanor did not indicate any concern for the death of any person."

    Shayanna Jenkins, Hernandez's fiance, cooperated with police at the start of the investigation. She broke into tears when police first told her about Lloyd's murder. Her sister had been dating Lloyd. Jenkins later told police that Lloyd dealt marijuana. Cooperation from Jenkins ended later in the investigation when she was told by Hernandez that his agent did not want her speaking to investigators without an attorney present.

    Wesley Lowery of the Boston Globe, Ted Daniels of Fox 25 and staff from WCVB in Boston shared details and photos of the unsealed documents on Tuesday afternoon.

    The search warrants portray a haphazard series of events by Hernandez and two accomplices that helped police put together a more complete picture of the events leading up to the alleged murder of Lloyd last month.

    Warrants also revealed the content from a series of text messages between Aaron Hernandez and Odin Lloyd on Sunday, June 16, the night investigators allege that Lloyd was murdered.

    At roughly 9:05 p.m. on June 16, Hernandez sent Lloyd a text message that read:

    "I'm coming to grab that tonight u gon b around I need that and we could step for a little again [sic]"

    The two men carried on the text conversation for several more hours, trying to set up a meeting. The last message sent in the exchange came from Lloyd at 12:22 a.m. It read, "we still on."

    Surveillance footage shows Hernandez and two other men, one of whom was identified as the recently apprehended Ernest Wallace, leaving his house that night a little after 1 a.m. and returning around 3 a.m., a sequence of events detailed by prosecutors at Hernandez's arraignment.

    The rental agency found a spent .45 shell casing under a child's drawing in the backseat of a Nisssan Altima rented by Hernandez that is believed to be the car used the night Lloyd was killed. Four other spent shells were found near Lloyd's body. Tire tracks consistent with the Altima rented by Hernandez were found at the crime scene.

    The documents also list items removed by police from Hernandez's house, including a scale believed to be used to weigh drugs, cell phones, iPads, a hard drive, ammunition, articles of clothing and more.

    Hernandez was arrested and charged with first-degree murder as well as five weapons charges. He is currently being held without bail. Wallace is also being held without bail on accessory to murder after the fact. Both men pleaded not guilty. A third man, Carlos Ortiz, is being held without bail on an illegal firearms possession charge.
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    @WesleyLowery
    "When officers told #Hernandez they were conducting a death investigation, Hernandez slammed the door and locked it behind him."

    genius

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    THE PATRIOT WAY gift that keeps on giving


    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...192308471.html

    Warrants: Aaron Hernandez ‘argumentative’ with police investigation

    .By Jay Hart | Shutdown Corner – 1 hour 49 minutes ago..


    When police officers showed up to Aaron Hernandez's home on June 17, the day after Odin Lloyd was found shot to death, they asked him about a vehicle he had rented. Hernandez told them he'd rented the car for Odin Lloyd, whom he hadn't seen since Sunday. According to documents released Tuesday, Hernandez became argumentative, asking investigators, "What's with all the questions?" A few moments later, when investigators told the former New England Patriots tight end they were there to conduct an investigation into a death, Hernandez responded by going inside his house, slamming the door and locking it.

    According to police records, "Mr. Hernandez slammed the door and relocked it behind him." It continues, "Mr. Hernandez did not ask officers whose death was being investigated. Mr. Hernandez's demeanor did not indicate any concern for the death of any person."

    Some 10 minutes later, Hernandez went back outside and informed investigators that he would follow officers to the police station.

    The release of eight warrants totaling 156 pages reveals a police investigation into the shooting death of Lloyd that focused on cell phones, video surveillance inside Hernandez's home and multiple vehicles tied to the former New England Patriot.

    How did police happen upon Hernandez so quickly? Because when they found Lloyd's body, they discovered in his pocket a set of keys to a Chevrolet Suburban rented by Hernandez.

    According to the report, "Police having learned that the deceased Mr. Lloyd and the occupant of the house, Mr. Hernandez, were both connected to the then missing Chevrolet Suburban, these officers had concerns for the safety of Mr. Hernandez."

    In a search of Hernandez's home, police found a box of "Game Loads" .22 bullets. Inside a safe, they discovered a scale and dish used to weigh drugs. From Hernandez's home in North Attleboro, police removed clothes, shoes, a wrist watch, an FEG Hungarian rifle and "1 gunshot residue kit from mattress."

    Here are some key findings from the warrants and affidavits therein:

    • Surveillance video taken from Hernandez's home shows him meeting two men in his driveway at 12:40 a.m. on the day Lloyd was killed. Video shows Hernandez holding a gun as he walks inside.

    • In his pocket, Odin Lloyd had a set of keys to a rental car registered to Aaron Hernandez. When police questioned Hernandez, he informed them he had rented the car for Lloyd. Hernandez said he had last seen Lloyd on Sunday, the day before he was shot and killed.

    • Shayanna Jenkins, Hernandez's fiancee, told police she and Hernandez had gone out to dinner for Father's Day. When they returned, she went to bed early. Jenkins cried when told by police that Lloyd had been killed.

    • Hernandez rented a Nissan Altima. Massachusetts State Police claim tire tracks found near Lloyd's body were consistent with a Nissan Altima.

    • The report states that "there appeared to be soil, similar in color and appearance to that at the location where Mr. Lloyd was found, on the tires and lower panels of the vehicle behind the tires. This soil was also seen within the tire tread(s) and wheel(s) well of the tires of the silver Nissan Altima."

    • Jenkins described Lloyd as a marijuana dealer. Investigators spoke to two dozen individuals who knew Lloyd and not one described him as a drug dealer.

    • Witnesses say they saw Hernandez and Lloyd together at Rumor, a Boston-area nightclub, on Friday night. They told police Hernandez had "what appeared to be a handgun in his waistband" at the club.

    The warrant further details the case prosecutors made when charging Hernandez with murder – that he texted Lloyd on Sunday night, asking him to hang out, that he texted Ernest Wallace to "hurry ur ass up," that he bought gas and bubble gum at a gas station, picked up Lloyd in the Nissan Altima, which was returned with a piece of bubble gum and what a rental agent believed was a bullet inside. The bullet, found in a Dumpster, turned out to be a spent .45 caliber cartridge casing.

    Details from the warrant continue:

    • Lloyd's wounds were inflicted by .45 caliber bullets.

    • Five spent casings were found near Lloyd's body. All five were fired from the same gun, which still has not been found.

    • The police searched continued to Hernandez's "flop house" in Franklin, Mass., not far from his home in North Attleboro. There, police discovered a loaded .45 Glock and ammunition of different calibers. According to the warrant, Hernandez does not have a license to carry a firearm.

    The warrant states that "investigators believe that Aaron Hernandez and two other male individuals were present at the location and time of the murder of Odin Lloyd." It does not state that Hernandez was or was not the shooter.

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    and here, almost minute by minute is how the Patriot Way Murderer orchestrated the mob hit on Mr Lloyd


    Prosecutors Detail How NFL Star Aaron Hernandez Allegedly 'Orchestrated The Execution' Of Odin Lloyd


    REUTERS/Mike George

    Aaron Hernandez was arrested, cut by the Patriots, and charged with murder in the death of 27-year-old Odin Lloyd yesterday.

    At his arraignment, prosecutor William McCauley gave a 25-minute, detailed account of how the prosecution claims Hernandez killed Lloyd. Using a web of surveillance footage, as well as some alleged boneheaded moves by Hernandez, the prosecution claims they have clear evidence that the ex-NFL player "orchestrated the execution" of Lloyd's murder on the morning of June 17.

    The prosecution says Hernandez called up two friends from Connecticut, picked up Lloyd at his house, drove him to a remote industrial park, killed him, and tried to destroy the evidence.

    Here's the timeline of the alleged murder, as told by the prosecution:

    Friday night, June 14: Hernandez and Lloyd are together at a club called Rumor in Boston. Lloyd talks to a group of people Hernandez doesn't like. Hernandez gets upset. This is the motive for the murder, according to the prosecution.



    Sunday night, June 16, 9:02 p.m.: Hernandez, at his home in North Attleborough, sends a text to two friends from Connecticut saying, "Please make it back."

    9:05 p.m.: Hernandez texts Lloyd saying he wants to come by his house and get together.

    9:35 p.m.: Hernandez texts his two friends, "Get your ass up here."

    10:23 p.m.: Hernandez sends another text to his two friends, "Hurry your ass up." They arrive sometime after that.

    Later that night: Hernandez is observed on his home surveillance system holding a gun and telling one of the two friends that he can't trust anyone anymore.

    1:12 a.m.: Hernandez and the two friends leave his house in a rented silver Nissan Altima.

    2:10 a.m.: They stop for gas on their way to Lloyd's house on Fayston Street in Boston. Hernandez buys gas as well as Bubblelicious bubble gum and Black & Mild rolling papers.


    The victim, Odin Lloyd, 27, was a semi-pro football player for the Boston Bandits. He was reportedly dating the sister of Hernandez's fiancee.
    2:32 a.m.: The three of them arrive at Lloyd's house and text him, "We're here." Lloyd's sister sees him leave and get in the Nissan Altima.

    During the drive: Hernandez tells Lloyd that he is upset that he was talking to those people at the club on Friday night.

    3:07 a.m.: Lloyd texts his sister, "Did you see who I am with?"

    3:11 a.m.: After she doesn't respond, he texts, "Hello?"

    3:19 a.m.: His sister responds, "My phone was dead. Who?"

    3:22 a.m.: Lloyd responds, "NFL."

    3:23 a.m.: Lloyd texts his sister, "Just so you know."

    3:23 a.m.: Hernandez's car is seen on a security camera driving to a secluded area in an industrial park. The area is used to store gravel and sand, and is out of the view of security cameras.

    3:23-3:27 a.m.: Lloyd is shot five times with a .45-caliber semiautomatic weapon. He is shot three times and is still alive when he falls to the ground. He is then shot twice more in the back. Workers at a nearby industrial business hear gunshots.



    3:28 a.m.: There is surveillance footage of the car leaving in the direction of Hernandez's house.

    3:29 a.m.: Hernandez's car pulls up outside his house.

    3:30 a.m.: The three men go into Hernandez's house. One of them is holding a semiautomatic gun. They go to the basement, and turn off the home security system. Six to eight hours of home surveillance footage goes missing.

    The next day: Hernandez trades in his silver Nissan for a different rental car. The driver's side mirror is damaged, but Hernandez says he doesn't know how it happened. After Hernandez leaves, the rental car attendant finds a shell casing and a piece of chewed blue Bubblelicious gum under the driver's seat. The investigation reveals that the casing matches the casings at the crime scene, and the gum presumably belongs to Hernandez.

    5:30 p.m.: Lloyd's body is found by a jogger.

    In addition to the Lloyd murder, Hernandez is reportedly being investigated for an August 2012 double murder.
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    For those speculating that Hernandez dropped the murder weapon off at Gillette, his Pats locker was, in fact, searched by authorities:

    http://www.providencejournal.com/spo...-searched1.ece

    So yes, the police went to the stadium with a search warrant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASG0531 View Post
    For those speculating that Hernandez dropped the murder weapon off at Gillette, his Pats locker was, in fact, searched by authorities:

    http://www.providencejournal.com/spo...-searched1.ece

    So yes, the police went to the stadium with a search warrant.
    The search warrant does not extend to BB's or Kraftie's offices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFCEastFan View Post
    The search warrant does not extend to BB's or Kraftie's offices.
    Very true, he could have buried the gun under one of the endzones as well. It's a big place.

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    This is what I speculate.

    The Patriots had this piece of murderous **** around for 3 years and looked the other way. They didn't know he was a murderer, but they knew he was lowest of all life forms. And gave him a new deal because he could play tight end very well.


    We all know the type, we've met them before. The type you would never turn your back on, and stay far away from. They type you keep your loved ones far away from. We know they knew. Matt light confirmed that

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRONX JET View Post
    This is what I speculate.

    The Patriots had this piece of murderous **** around for 3 years and looked the other way. They didn't know he was a murderer, but they knew he was lowest of all life forms. And gave him a new deal because he could play tight end very well.


    We all know the type, we've met them before. The type you would never turn your back on, and stay far away from. They type you keep your loved ones far away from. We know they knew. Matt light confirmed that
    The facts are starting to back that idea up. But you're making the jump from being a low-life to a gangbanging murderer. This is the essence of the debate surrounding the Pats' responsibility in this disaster. It's a leap no one would have made a month ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASG0531 View Post
    For those speculating that Hernandez dropped the murder weapon off at Gillette, his Pats locker was, in fact, searched by authorities:

    http://www.providencejournal.com/spo...-searched1.ece

    So yes, the police went to the stadium with a search warrant.
    Good. I posted about this over a week ago. I'm glad the police read this board and took my advice. I'm betting the murder weapon's in the stadium. Why else would he take that trip to the stadium with the media following him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBlairThomasFumble View Post
    Good. I posted about this over a week ago. I'm glad the police read this board and took my advice. I'm betting the murder weapon's in the stadium. Why else would he take that trip to the stadium with the media following him?
    You think that the most reasonable explanation for Hernandez driving to Gillette under news copter-cam was to drop off the murder weapon in broad daylight? You think that's the most obvious explanation?

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    Wow

    These documents are a terrific read. And pretty much the nail in the coffin for Hernandez and also for the pile of bullsh!t formerly known as The Patriot Way.

    What did mumbles and the Big Dupe know and when did they know about this murderer and this murder. This organized crime syndicate is going to crumble like the East German Stasi when the investigation reveals the full extent of their involvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASG0531 View Post
    You think that the most reasonable explanation for Hernandez driving to Gillette under news copter-cam was to drop off the murder weapon in broad daylight? You think that's the most obvious explanation?
    Cops seemed to think so, hence the search warrant...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sg3 View Post



    What about his right to bare arms?

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