Wow! What a long thread. It took me a couple of days to get through it all.
Here are the thoughts of this Pats fan;
If the Pats offense is as difficult to pick up as some say it is, how did Hernandez pick it up. He's coming across as being as dumb as a box of rocks.
I think some of the other stories about Hernandez could be coming to light to try to influence Emperor Goodell. If he only gets charged with obstruction and has nothing else on his record, he may be able to miss a year or less and be back.
The Pats gambled on Hernandez and lost. It's that simple.
How is it that Pats fans are trolls for posting here but if they aren't they're hiding and some of you want them here to take their "medicine"? Either you want us posting here or not. Make up your minds.
in other words, troll
you have Ballard.... adding additional camp fodder to the list doesn't make the list more attractive.
Without Brokendownski, Murderer81, Welker and Lloyd.... poor tammy is going to suddenly look a lot more human
Is this fvcktard in jail yet or what?
Not for nothing but I don't think the Pats completely lost on Hernandez. He was a 4th round pick who has played at a Pro Bowl level for them.
The new contract looks like a bad decision now. But it gets worse. I heard on NFLN that Hernandez's contract is unique and he may end up getting all his guaranteed money even if he is suspended. If that is true then the contract is awful. Who is writing their contracts? Belichick? Maybe the Pats end up bringing in a real GM eventually.
In almost all situations, when an NFL player is suspended, he forfeits all of the future guarantees in his contract. Even if a signing bonus or base salary is guaranteed for skill, injury and salary cap, a "failure to perform" or "failure to practice" clause makes those guarantees null and void.
In a surprising twist, this appears not to be the case with the five-year, $40-million extension signed by New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez in August of 2012. Upon close reading of his contract language -- and after confirming the development with an expert -- the "failure to perform" or "failure to practice" clause that appears in similar Patriots extensions is not present. This means Hernandez might be able to keep nearly $2.5 million of the deal, even if legal troubles prevented him from taking the field.
For a 4th round pick he played some good seasons for us. That being said I want him off the team now. Unless by some crazy scenario where he is not guilty in all of this (can't fathom it) I don't want the thug on the team I root for.
He is a total moron for involving himself with these kind of people and throwing it away like this. It's always astounding to me how guys who have so much to lose do such stupid things. All he had to do was play football, go home to his kid and girlfriend and enjoy them and stay out of trouble, but no he had to be an idiot. See ya AHern...You're talented as hell, but don't have a lick of sense it seems.
Amendola isn't a **** receiver, lol. Gronk is also supposedly doing well after his operation. Will he make it through the season? Who knows. They still have a solid OLine that gives Brady hours in the pocket and they now, seemingly, have a decent running game. When you consider that they replaced Welker (who's production, imo, was due in large part to Brady) with a poor man's version of him who can fill the role just fine, the only receiver they've really lost (and that's not 100% certain atm) is Hernandez.
Yeah, I'm betting on Brady. Brady was being Brady before Hernandez and Gronkowski got there, just fyi. Unless you're someone who thinks he's just some overrated system QB, I don't really know what else to tell you.
Now, with all that said, is the Pats offense going to be scoring 50+ like it's nothing? Idk, but probably not. However, considering that they play in the AFC, and more specifically the AFC East, it's not like they even have to. They'll still get around 10-12 wins and take the division. Doubt they go far in the playoffs, but that's a different discussion.