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    Yeah. Medicaid. Just what I want to be on. The words "high-quality" and "Medicaid" should never be mentioned together.

    My primary care doctor is contemplating retirement b.c of Obamacare. He says that medicaid and medicare pay nothing now and will pay even less once the ACA is fully implemented. Thankfully, I already have real insurance through my employer that I get @ss raped for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intelligentjetsfan View Post
    I wish others could understand what Marxism really means as well as socialism and communism

    I mean I get it; I understand that the writers who work at the Murdoch Empire have been authorized to use those words repeatedly, and in combinations, but if only the followers would take the time to actually understand what these terms meant then they could think for themse.....yeah right..
    Oh look. Another irrelevant FoxNews post from adhominemjetsfan. It's getting hilarious at this point.

    Meanwhile, the "legit" media is skipping right over this one, part 2 of this week's Obamacare massive failures:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...080_story.html

    Train wreck indeed. Another in The Administration's series, Friday Night (Turn out the) Lights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MnJetFan View Post
    The money was taken from Medicare and put into Obamacare. No savings!
    You phrased it like Medicare cuts cost money, moving money from one category to another doesn't change anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JetPotato View Post
    Oh look. Another irrelevant FoxNews post from adhominemjetsfan. It's getting hilarious at this point.

    Meanwhile, the "legit" media is skipping right over this one, part 2 of this week's Obamacare massive failures:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...080_story.html

    Train wreck indeed. Another in The Administration's series, Friday Night (Turn out the) Lights.
    Oh look. Our fair and balanced guardian of truth fails to find his voice when posters misuse terms like marxism and socialism and communism but, like clockwork, are quick to use ad hominem retorts here.

    It's getting hilarious at this point.

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    Heard it reported this morning that the Obama Administration has announced that it will not perform verification for subsidy for the next year or so for Obamacare. I.e. if you call or write them and say you qualify, you'll get a check.

    Would very much like to get confirmation/verification on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    Heard it reported this morning that the Obama Administration has announced that it will not perform verification for subsidy for the next year or so for Obamacare. I.e. if you call or write them and say you qualify, you'll get a check.

    Would very much like to get confirmation/verification on this.
    No surprise if its true. They got a midterm to buy. I am sure they will be making sure that everyone that gets a check will be registering to vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    Heard it reported this morning that the Obama Administration has announced that it will not perform verification for subsidy for the next year or so for Obamacare. I.e. if you call or write them and say you qualify, you'll get a check.

    Would very much like to get confirmation/verification on this.
    See the link I posted last night

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    Quote Originally Posted by intelligentjetsfan View Post
    Oh look. Our fair and balanced guardian of truth fails to find his voice when posters misuse terms like marxism and socialism and communism but, like clockwork, are quick to use ad hominem retorts here.

    It's getting hilarious at this point.
    And still... nothing of even remote substance from you on the ACTUAL TOPIC.

    No mystery, no surprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intelligentjetsfan View Post
    Oh look. Our fair and balanced guardian of truth fails to find his voice when posters misuse terms like marxism and socialism and communism but, like clockwork, are quick to use ad hominem retorts here.

    It's getting hilarious at this point.
    We can all look up Marxism on Wikipedia and get a basic understanding of the concept, and judge for ourselves if Obama in an exemplar of any particular aspects of this philosophy or not, thanks.

    Maybe it might be nice if you stopped trolling, and post something on the topic?

    Speaking of back on topic.....so if it is indeed confirmed that the Govt. will not be checking for qualification for AHCA Subsidy, how much fraud and abuse does that open the door up to? Whats to stop it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    We can all look up Marxism on Wikipedia and get a basic understanding of the concept, and judge for ourselves if Obama in an exemplar of any particular aspects of this philosophy or not, thanks.

    Maybe it might be nice if you stopped trolling, and post something on the topic?

    Speaking of back on topic.....so if it is indeed confirmed that the Govt. will not be checking for qualification for AHCA Subsidy, how much fraud and abuse does that open the door up to? Whats to stop it?
    hold on, sir - he's cutting and pasting his response from HuffPo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    Speaking of back on topic.....so if it is indeed confirmed that the Govt. will not be checking for qualification for AHCA Subsidy, how much fraud and abuse does that open the door up to? Whats to stop it?
    Supporters of the bill care little about the billions of dollars in fraud when weighed against how many votes will it gain them.

    Food stamps, part deux.

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    The biggest and most glaring flaw in the Obamacare bill is the fact that anyone can purchase insurance after they get sick thereby negating the need for the insurance in the first place. That flaw in essence guarantees the bill will be a disaster. It also explains why every estimate of the cost of the law is wrong. They assume that all people will purchase the insurance because of the threat of a tax penalty that initself is a fraction of the dollars the insurance would cost. My question is why? Why would someone buy insurance at say $10K a year when they can pay a $2000 or less fine and pocket the 8K in cash? Now if there was fear that when an illness came they would have difficulty getting insurance or coverage then they might. But the preconditions clause elliminates that fear. A person that is diagnosed with an illness can purchase insurance right after the diagnosis according to the law. The insurance companys are compelled by law to accept all comers at the market price and can not take the pre-existing conditions into account.

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    They are going to send out the SS oops the SEIU to help change your mind. But don't come knocking at my door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JetPotato View Post
    Supporters of the bill care little about the billions of dollars in fraud when weighed against how many votes will it gain them.

    Food stamps, part deux.
    Maybe we can phone it in on our free Obamaphone. He takes a licking but keeps on spending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    We can all look up Marxism on Wikipedia and get a basic understanding of the concept, and judge for ourselves if Obama in an exemplar of any particular aspects of this philosophy or not, thanks.

    Maybe it might be nice if you stopped trolling, and post something on the topic?

    Speaking of back on topic.....so if it is indeed confirmed that the Govt. will not be checking for qualification for AHCA Subsidy, how much fraud and abuse does that open the door up to? Whats to stop it?
    Sure they could....but most never make the effort to do so. And why should they when its much easier to let others do the thinking for them.

    IF its confirmed to be true then its something that needs to be rectified so that a positive social program does not get misused and abused.
    Last edited by intelligentjetsfan; 07-08-2013 at 06:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intelligentjetsfan View Post
    IF its confirmed to be true then its something that needs to be rectified so that a positive social program does not get misused and abused.
    It's been confirmed.

    So, staying ON topic, what do you think should be done then?

    And what should the repurcussions be if nothing is done and that fraud is permitted to occur?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefst2000 View Post
    The biggest and most glaring flaw in the Obamacare bill is the fact that anyone can purchase insurance after they get sick thereby negating the need for the insurance in the first place. That flaw in essence guarantees the bill will be a disaster. It also explains why every estimate of the cost of the law is wrong. They assume that all people will purchase the insurance because of the threat of a tax penalty that initself is a fraction of the dollars the insurance would cost. My question is why? Why would someone buy insurance at say $10K a year when they can pay a $2000 or less fine and pocket the 8K in cash? Now if there was fear that when an illness came they would have difficulty getting insurance or coverage then they might. But the preconditions clause elliminates that fear. A person that is diagnosed with an illness can purchase insurance right after the diagnosis according to the law. The insurance companys are compelled by law to accept all comers at the market price and can not take the pre-existing conditions into account.
    Izitso? Some companies like UHC, a huge B.Husseincare cheerhoreleader, are dropping out of the health insurance biz in some states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intelligentjetsfan View Post
    Sure they could....but most never make the effort to do so. And why should they when its much easier to let others do the thinking for them.

    IF its confirmed to be true then its something that needs to be rectified so that a positive social program does not get misused and abused.
    How one can criticize people who let others do their thinking for them, then follow it up by calling Obamacare a "positive social program" is beyond comprehension.

    Tell us, in your own words, what is positive about it? Feel free to back with data (not promises and rhetoric).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    It's been confirmed.

    So, staying ON topic, what do you think should be done then?

    And what should the repurcussions be if nothing is done and that fraud is permitted to occur?
    First, can you post a link showing where this has been confirmed? I do not doubt that you read it somewhere but I would like to read the article, and see who the source(s) is/are before commenting.

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    So did librarians sell us out by mindlessly pushing ObuttocksCare?

    I guess we'll never know since the most transparent administration ever refuses to show the video.

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