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    Over There

    London - often the laughing stock of American food connoisseurs - is set to become a haven for U.S. burger lovers as two of the country's most popular chains open stores in the U.K. capital.
    Five Guys, a fast-growing upmarket burger chain, will open the doors to its first non-U.S. outlet in London's Covent Garden on Thursday to coincide with Independence Day. Hot on its heels, rival Shake Shack will open up just 300 meters away on Friday.
    London is an obvious choice for both restaurants. In the past few years, the city has witnessed a growth in high-end burger eateries, with chains like Honest Burger and Byron opening a number of stores.
    The Choice of Country Leaders
    The British Chancellor of the Exchequer, George Osborne, sparked a wave of media coverage when he tweeted a photo of himself enjoying a late-night burger and fries in his office, ahead of June's government spending review.
    He was heavily criticized when it was revealed that the burger he was eating while finalizing cuts to government spending and social benefits wasn't the typical fast food fare from Burger King or McDonald's, but a high-end burger from Byron, which costs £6.75 ($10.30). A quarter pounder with cheese at McDonald's, by comparison, costs £2.59 ($3.95).
    Defending his gourmet choice on TV, Osborne said: "Well McDonald's doesn't deliver, I was working late in the office." He added that he was "partial to a quarter-pounder with cheese".
    Like Osborne, U.S. President Barack Obama enjoys an upmarket burger and can recommend Five Guys to the Chancellor. Back in 2009, the U.S. President was spotted in a local Five Guys in Washington, D.C., where he ordered a cheeseburger with lettuce, tomato, jalapeno peppers and mustard.
    Bun Fight in London?
    Speaking to CNBC, Shake Shack founder Danny Meyer downplayed talk of a "burger war".
    "The right assumption is that there is no war whatsoever," he said. "We're a country that has such a long tradition of people loving burgers, when it comes right down to it, it's a piece of meat between two pieces of a bun, and really the joy is how did you cook, how did you source the meat. And how much fun are you having while you eat it."
    He added: "There's room for a lot more than one burger."
    Shake Shack opened its first restaurant in New York City's Madison Square Park in 2004, and quickly become popular for its all-natural burgers, as well as its hot dogs and frozen custard.
    It has now expanded across New York, and has opened up stores in Connecticut, Florida, Washington D.C., Massachusetts and Pennsylvania. London is not its first non-U.S. opening - it also has restaurants in Turkey and the Middle East.
    The chain is part of Danny Meyer's Union Square Hospitality Group (USHG) which also operates New York City restaurants like Union Square Café, Gramercy Tavern and Jazz Standard.
    Meyer said a successful London launch could lead to more in the capital.
    "If Londoners react to the burger the way we hope they will, we absolutely would love to have another one here in London," he said. "You are the city that feels as close to New Yorkers' hearts as any city in the world, so we really hope it's going to do a great job here."
    Five Guys is the larger of the two chains, with over 1,000 locations in 47 U.S. states.
    In 2012 Market Force Information, a customer intelligence solutions company, surveyed 7,600 U.S. burger-goers and found that Five Guys was the favorite burger chain in the country.
    According to Five Guys, there are over 250,000 possible ways to order a burger at their restaurants.
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    The UK Scene
    Nick Andrews, who set up the "Burger Me London" blog in 2011, has witnessed the steady growth of U.K. burger restaurants and said that last year was a turning point.
    "2012, for me, was London's Year of the Burger - when they really became mainstream," he said.
    Andrews said the high-end burger market in London was now growing fast and there was plenty of room for new U.S. competitors.
    "Local independents have helped us get excited about burgers, and in my view they have proved the burger market has legs," he explained. "That's why the American big boys are now sitting up and taking notice."
    "While the food trendsetters have moved on, the burger category has been extended beyond it's original audience and so I think there's a huge nascent market for good quality comfort food that these places will start to tap into. If I was being unkind, I'd call them the burger 'laggards'."
    Meyer agrees with Andrews premise, given what is happening to burger-eating habits in the U.S.
    "We call this the 'fine-casual market'," he explained. "Basically what's happening is this: people eat that many burgers in fast food restaurants - $80 billion in the United States. The better-burger or fine-casual market is just starting to take a small bite out of that."
    "If you can take a fine dining quality, a place like Gramercy Tavern, Union Square Café, and offer the same beef - our beef is coming from Scotland here - but the same quality beef we use in a fine-dining restaurant for a fraction more than fast food, I think he has really good taste."
    And we won't be back til they're fat over there.

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    oh they be fat...have u seen them?...they're as fat as we are...

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    Let me know when one opens in Manchester and I'm there, mmmmmmmm burger!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2foolish197 View Post
    oh they be fat...have u seen them?...they're as fat as we are...
    Are you kidding me, man we fat but need at least another ten years of these chains to reach your level of fatness

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    Did George go for burgers with his brother Geoffrey?


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