Reply With Quoteactually you are the one making the idiotic comparisons based on round drafted
ALL second rounders are BUSTS or BACKUPS
all first rounders are HALL OF FAMERS
or maybe there is some other underlying reason that you HATE Geno Smith...
Nostradumbass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Originally Posted by sg3
WOw, your not only a clueless football fan but you are also a comedian. You thought of that all by youself. Mommy must be so proud. You deserve a prize big boy for coming up with such a clever line.
actually you are the one making the idiotic comparisons based on round drafted
ALL second rounders are BUSTS or BACKUPS
all first rounders are HALL OF FAMERS
or maybe there is some other underlying reason that you HATE Geno Smith...
frankly, I'm finished watching you make a jerk of yourself...
you'll have to stand there all by yourself and get sacked like your namesake Kenny ZERO Statue from now on.
see ya, genius
Last edited by sg3; 07-16-2013 at 04:46 PM.
you just proved my point. the majority of qbs bust, regardless of round.
Lol man you did not just make the point that because the crappppiest franchise in the NFL (bills) skipped up on geno that is " a very telling sign" lol.. You didn't mention their brilliant idea behind the Manuel pick, " cold weather qb with huge hands" lol.. He was projected in 3rd, other teams said they would not have taken him in the 1st but since the bills shocked the world it must be very telling of geno lol.. And your very wrong, the text thing did have an effect on geno. The kid has been nothing but professional now but that rumor ran wild. The other guys who had negative press aren't qbs why their value didn't drop. You should know qbs are held to much higher standard.. Since you like stats.. How many qbs have gone on to be good after averaging the lowest qb rating in the nfl for past 4 years? You Sanchez cheerleaders are too funny..
The majority of QBs do bust. Thats true. But my point was that as you go down in the rounds for 2 to 7 the bust rate is significantly higher. There is a big difference between a bust rate of 56% and a bust rate of 87% which is the difference between 1st and 2nd round QBs between 1992 and 2012.
Ive said it time and time again, I think Sanchez sucks and I want him replaced.
The difference is you want to replace him with anybody not named Mark Sanchez and I want him replaced with a viable starting option. I do not believe we have that guy on our roster right now. Geno Smith will prove to be the next Kellen Clemens. Mark my words.
and my other point was, the same can be said of other positions. as you go deeper in the draft, the bust rate increases. the caveat is, you are more likely to be satisfied with an ok OG in the 6th round (ie, slauson), but it's much harder to win with an ok qb you get in the 6th round. that's why so many qbs are taken in the 2nd round still, b/c teams are looking for the exception to the rules, and teams can't keep taking qbs in the first round b/c there are too many sanchez, gabbert types who will ruin your team for 4 years.
Where did i say ALL 2nd rounders are busts or backups and ALL 1st rounders are hall of famers?
I didnt say that. Im sorry reading comprehension is not your forte. But dont put words into my mouth.
Your absolutely correct the same can be said of other positions. BUT, blowing a pick (or in this case 2 picks) on bad QBs will set your franchise back 5-6 years whereas blowing a high pick on a bad ILB or TE will not have the same effect.
We blew a 1st rd pick on a QB just 4 years ago. We were better off signing a guy like Kolb and waiting another year to draft a QB or take a chance on a QB in the lower rounds since Geno Smith is no sure thing and the value of a high 2nd is too high to take a chance on a questionable prospect like Geno
not true anymore. the rookie salary structure in place now requires a lower fixed payment, and there's a difference between investing a first vs. a second round pick. a good example is carolina, who took clausen in the 2nd round and then the following year took cam newton and didn't look back. the 2nd round qb investment is minimal.
agree. lets say geno wins the job sucks and jets have high draft pick. they can still pick a QB next year because Smith is not making that much
Smith was great value where they got him even if he sucks
I think we will be caught in between. The QBs will be bad, but we will win 4-7 games, out of the race for the top QBs who will be drafted
sg3 is the queen of hyperbole.
Geno was a great value pick, but I'm more skeptical than most here that he's got the skills and attributes I've been reading on some threads. Hopefully the Jets let him develop - sit and learn for now, get him some real weapons next offseason.
I'm with you. I hope he turns out great, but there is a reason this QB class didn't get much respect. The fact that he is a 2nd rounder will make it an easier pill to swallow, if it doesn't work out
I think this would give him the best chance to succeed.
I dont think he will ever be a franchise QB but throwing him to the wolves by starting him on day 1 is a sure way to guarantee failure.
I had a dream Geno badly misthrew a short flat route during a game this season. That was the entire dream. True story.
sure way...guaranteed failure...surefire....no QB not drafted in round one has ever started immediately and succeeded...none....never...ever
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