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    It won't take 3 years to rebuild. In baseball with no cap and the Yankees resources you can reload in one off-season - this is not the NBA. Talk about the luxury tax all you want the Yankees can make solid mid-level signings and - gasp - actually try to rely on their younger prospects like Mason Williams and Almonte. Problem is Cashman sucks at evaluating young players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chirorob View Post
    When you add no young talent for several years in a row, it shows.

    Cashman's drafts have been poor. The only position players on the team he came up with in the last 7 years are Gardner and Cano. You can add Melky to that, but that's not a lot for as long as Cash has been here.
    "it shows"

    The Yankees are currently 2.5 games out of a wild card spot. With 65 games to go that is a pretty good spot.


    http://espn.go.com/mlb/standings/_/type/wild-card

    What is showing is that many Yankee fans are freaking crybabies. They are not satisfied unless the MLB season is not competitive. You want the Yankees to always be 10 games up in first place with 5 of the best young players on your team.

    GEEZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
    "it shows"

    The Yankees are currently 2.5 games out of a wild card spot. With 65 games to go that is a pretty good spot.


    http://espn.go.com/mlb/standings/_/type/wild-card

    What is showing is that many Yankee fans are freaking crybabies. They are not satisfied unless the MLB season is not competitive. You want the Yankees to always be 10 games up in first place with 5 of the best young players on your team.

    GEEZ
    We just see the team as it is...mediocre, with no stud position players on the way..

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    Quote Originally Posted by LSJF View Post
    We just see the team as it is...mediocre, with no stud position players on the way..

    boo-effing hoo

    man up and pull for the squad you got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
    "it shows"

    The Yankees are currently 2.5 games out of a wild card spot. With 65 games to go that is a pretty good spot.


    http://espn.go.com/mlb/standings/_/type/wild-card

    What is showing is that many Yankee fans are freaking crybabies. They are not satisfied unless the MLB season is not competitive. You want the Yankees to always be 10 games up in first place with 5 of the best young players on your team.

    GEEZ
    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
    boo-effing hoo

    man up and pull for the squad you got.
    I think you've made your point. We should all be like Mets fans and settle for mediocrity. sorry that's never going to happen. And just because we have high standards for this team does not make us cry babies and it doesnt mean we feel entitled to something, every fan base has different standards based on their own history. You can't expect a Yankee or even Cardinal fan to feel the same way about a playoff birth that a Pirate fan does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by detjetsfan View Post
    It won't take 3 years to rebuild. In baseball with no cap and the Yankees resources you can reload in one off-season - this is not the NBA. Talk about the luxury tax all you want the Yankees can make solid mid-level signings and - gasp - actually try to rely on their younger prospects like Mason Williams and Almonte. Problem is Cashman sucks at evaluating young players.

    Baseball for all intents purposes has a cap now. And actually you can reload in the NBA, in fact its the only sport you can really reload in one offseason. The Nets just did it.

    Almonte also isn't really a prospect and Williams has been underwheming, frankly our entire farm system has been this season. And this is my point, we don't have a young core on this team and their isn't much on the horizon. If this current team was young and up and coming I would be stoked about our current spot in the standings, but our core is old and full of retreads who don't have much of a future on the team. We desperately need a couple of these guys to turn into solid every day players (Gary Sanchez, Mason Williams, Tyler Austin, Slade Heathcott, Eric Jagielo, Aaron Judge)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler Durden 2.0 View Post
    Baseball for all intents purposes has a cap now. )
    It should have a cap. It is not healthy for a sport when only the same handful of teams can bid on top free agents. I say this as a life long Yankee fan.

    I never saw the fun in having a 200M+ payroll beating up on a team or teams when their team payroll doesn't even match ARod's salary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
    "it shows"

    The Yankees are currently 2.5 games out of a wild card spot. With 65 games to go that is a pretty good spot.


    http://espn.go.com/mlb/standings/_/type/wild-card

    What is showing is that many Yankee fans are freaking crybabies. They are not satisfied unless the MLB season is not competitive. You want the Yankees to always be 10 games up in first place with 5 of the best young players on your team.

    GEEZ
    As opposed to the cry-baby Mutts fans who ran Phillips and Minaya out of town and will be running this current regime out of town in 2 years when the Mets are still playing sub-.500 baseball?


    "Citifield has a Robinson rotunda but no monument for Bobby Bonilla!" wah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
    boo-effing hoo

    man up and pull for the squad you got.
    Nothing wrong with Yankee fans being frustrated by the team they have. They're still rooting for them but when you compare this team and what it could be in 2014 it pales in comparison to some really great teams that they got to watch.

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    Pretending that just because the Yankees are a few games out of the 2nd wildcard that fans shouldn't complain 1) is missing the point, and 2) goes against what being a fan is.

    No fan should settle for a team being mediocre, which this Yankee team isó5 games over .500 and destined for a .500 season. No healthy superstar, no young phenom, no chance to actually do anything should they make it to the playoffs with the cheap 2nd wildcard.

    Who wants to root for such a team? Average is boring. A young team on the rise that finished .500 isn't average, it's up and coming. I'm sure the Yankees could manage another .500 season next year with a similar roster, big deal?

    With the payroll and resources they have, there is no excuse. Their medical staff seems to be incompetent. Their development staff hasn't produced a pitcher better than a #5 since Andy Pettitte (that has been fully developed by the Yankees). All of their top prospects have taken major steps back this year or been injured. They have an old, boring roster, and seem to think that signing players 4 years past their prime will somehow thrill the fans.

    This is the late 1960s all over again. I honestly don't see how they will escape many years of mediocrity or worse.

    What good will signing Cano for the long-term and retaining Gardner and Robertson do, if everyone else stinks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SDJETS View Post
    Pretending that just because the Yankees are a few games out of the 2nd wildcard that fans shouldn't complain 1) is missing the point, and 2) goes against what being a fan is.

    No fan should settle for a team being mediocre, which this Yankee team isó5 games over .500 and destined for a .500 season. No healthy superstar, no young phenom, no chance to actually do anything should they make it to the playoffs with the cheap 2nd wildcard.

    Who wants to root for such a team? Average is boring. A young team on the rise that finished .500 isn't average, it's up and coming. I'm sure the Yankees could manage another .500 season next year with a similar roster, big deal?

    With the payroll and resources they have, there is no excuse. Their medical staff seems to be incompetent. Their development staff hasn't produced a pitcher better than a #5 since Andy Pettitte (that has been fully developed by the Yankees). All of their top prospects have taken major steps back this year or been injured. They have an old, boring roster, and seem to think that signing players 4 years past their prime will somehow thrill the fans.

    This is the late 1960s all over again. I honestly don't see how they will escape many years of mediocrity or worse.

    What good will signing Cano for the long-term and retaining Gardner and Robertson do, if everyone else stinks?
    The Sun will rise
    The seasons will change
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    The Yankees will spend

    I look for 3 of the following players to be on the Yankees by this time next season:

    Ellsbury
    Choo
    Utley
    Howard
    Reyes
    Beltran
    Garza
    Johnson


    And again the MLB draft is a crap shoot. Guys picked late become all-stars all of thr time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
    "it shows"

    The Yankees are currently 2.5 games out of a wild card spot. With 65 games to go that is a pretty good spot.


    http://espn.go.com/mlb/standings/_/type/wild-card

    What is showing is that many Yankee fans are freaking crybabies. They are not satisfied unless the MLB season is not competitive. You want the Yankees to always be 10 games up in first place with 5 of the best young players on your team.

    GEEZ
    First off, calm down.

    Second off, it's not the record I am frustrated with, its the lack of young players coming up. Nothing is more fun than watching your team develope some real stud players. The way this team is built, it is very unlikely they go anywhere In The playoffs.

    What happens next year when Andy and !o retire? What if Kuroda pitches like a 38 year old next year? Maybe Nova becomes a decent option. Maybe Robertson can close, but he really shows more of being a great 8th inning guy.

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    i want billy beane as GM imagine what he can do with a decent payroll.

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