Kapernick beat out smith.
Wilson beat our flynn.
You just screwed your own feeble argument.
Did the jets draft a qb in the 1st 3 rounds when sanchez was here? Did they have any kind of a vet that could play?
If the jets had drafted some 3rd rounder a few years ago he probably would have beat out or at least put pressure on sanchez....oh no we can't have that.
Maybe you should take the green goggles off and see Failchez for what he is: a buttfumbling, pick six throwing, dline stat padding, hotdog eating, overpaid SCRUB.
Try being a real fan for ONCE in your life and want more than mediocrity from your team. Clueless sunshiner.
Last edited by McGinley; 07-24-2013 at 09:42 PM.
Sanchez was coddled because he was allowed to start when he did not deserve the role, he is statistically among the 10 worst starting QB's in NFL history because no other player was giving so many chances and no other HC put up with that low level of play from a starter...
I love Rex as the Jets coach, but he should have benched Sanchez for a few games in 2011 and planted him on the bench after the SF blow out last year
The kid has talent but has never developed. It is a fair argument to say that it's not all his fault but four years of mid 50% completion rates and a higher Turnovers to TD ratio is not acceptable
but the 8.5MM contract will give him one more chance to be coddled...
Nothing silly about it...
The Jets drafted a QB #5 overall in a year they desperately needed to address the position. He was going to compete with Clemens, since Favre wasn't coming back.
If you recall, Clemens was a player the Jets were going to give a shot to, there were very few options during the off-season when the Jets drafted Sanchez.
And did it matter? He went on to lead the team to the AFCCG.
After that season, how the hell should anybody think the Jets should have brought in an established QB to compete against Sanchez?
The team gave him an extension after his 3rd year, one down year wasn't enough of a measuring stick against him, not with the overhaul that took place with the roster. And that extension to this day is misinterpreted, all they did was take money he was going to get anyway, and build it into a bonus that he'll never get if he is retained beyond next year. He already had most of the money he received last year and this year from his rookie deal. It was a calculated gamble to extend Sanchez, hope he would continue progressing as a franchise QB, but have him on the cheap for the next 5 years, while also give the team cap money last off-season.
The team never pursued Manning, more BS that some fans continue to spew today.
So again, I'll ask you, since DD wanted no part of it.
Are the Dolphins coddling Tannehill?
Hell, are the Jets coddling Smith this year? Since you're so convinced Sanchez is absolute trash, what competition does Smith have heading into training camp?
After his 3rd, after a year of complete roster overhaul at the skill positions, lessening talent brought in, and better players let go, the lockout season, and the team imploding and giving up on Schotty?
After last year? Sure, and they have, they drafted Smith.
Statistics are crap when you analyze the complete body of work of Sanchez and the team's performance in all 4 years he has been QB, and the complete misfortune the team had last year and then the roster overhaul after the lockout off-season.
Palmer was out of football the year Dalton was drafted, he was given the job
Kaepernick was in his second season. Smith was traded this off-season, Kaepernick has no competition heading into his first pre-season as a starting QB.
Flynn? Are you serious? He's never been a starter...
Sanchez was handed the keys to the car without learning how to drive.
His second year, No, we can agree that was his best year
Third year, yes, during a couple of 3 loss runs that needed a change of pace
Last year, one game was not enough and Tebow/Sporks did not help
For me the coddling of Sanchez took this form. The guy was allowed to keep making the same mistakes for years and they never really challenged him to improve his game. They never sat him just to make him realize that his sloppiness with the ball wasn't acceptable. There's nothing wrong with bringing in a legit QB who can truly compete in order to make sure he's busting him butt.
This year they have a kid in here who is already challenging Mark. Despite the fact that Mark has been in the NFL for 4 yrs, was able to get his hands on the playbook and film way before Geno, was able to get private tutoring on the WCO from Jeff Garcia and still Geno was pushing him in OTA's. That is not a good sign for Sanchez. He should be 100% at this point and he still was making mistakes. This is the legacy of Sanchez. He's proven he's a mistake QB. He can't play a clean game. Sanchez was coddled and in just about every aspect of the game he's made no improvement since day one.
Sure the last 2 years the team around him deteriorated, but Steve Young once said about Sanchez, he "accelerates the down". When things go bad Mark actually makes things worse.
Sanchez had one bad year, after two straight AFCCG's, after a roster was overhauled, after a lock-out off-season, and was asked to play with a re-tooled arsenal, and in an offense that became predictable, an offense and offensive coordinator that resulted in player mutiny. Then last year, he is forced to play with street FA's for most of the year as most key starters were all injured and missed most of the year.
Last edited by Ray Ray19; 07-24-2013 at 10:28 PM.
Sanchez will be the starter and he will be the NYJ starting QB next season!
Take it for what it's worth. My opinion (not just based on these facts) is that it seems after 2010, he started to spiral down hill. He's not the same as he was then. If he played like he did 2010, 2011 would have been a playoff team.Sanchez facts:
Sanchez was the starting QB for the Jets for two AFCCGs (09, 10).
Sanchez's playoff record is 4-2.
Sanchez's playoff QBR is 94.3
Sanchez has 12 come from behind victories, or victories where he had the game winning drive (1 last year, 4 in 2011, 6 in 2010).
Sanchez's career completion percentage is 55.1%.
His career QBR is 71.7
He has thrown 68 TD passes, and 69 INTs.
He has rushed for 12 TDs
He has fumbled the ball away 17 times in 4 years.
He has more turnovers than anyone in the league over the last 2 seasons.
In 4 years, he has 8 300 yard passing games. His high is 369.
He has thrown 4 TDs in a game once (vs Buffalo in 2011).
He has thrown 3 TDs in a game 7 times.
He has thrown 4 or more INTs 3 times in 61 games.
He has thrown 3 or more INTs 8 times in 61 games.
He has thrown 2 or more INTs 17 times in 61 games.
He has thrown an INT in at least 40 of his 61 regular season games.
He has thrown for less than 50% completion percentage in 17 of his 61 regular season games.
His career win/loss record is 32 - 29.
When the Jets win, Sanchez's QBR is 86.9
When the Jets lose, Sanchez's QBR is 57.8
Last edited by John_0515; 07-24-2013 at 11:20 PM.