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    What the heck happened?

    All of a sudden the Jets could have more offensive firepower than any other team in the AFC east.
    Everything hinges on health & the QB.

    Oline still has 2 pro bowlers at the 2 most important spots, LT & center.
    Howard will only get better & if Colon gets through camp there will be at least 4 guys battling for the LG spot! (When's the last time we had that depth?)

    The combination of Ivory, Goodsen & Powell is incredibly versatile.
    Ivory brings power & punch in a Marshawn Lynch way. Goodsen has the speed to test the edges on sweeps, also can catch the ball on screens & coud be very dangerous in the open field. Powell is the Swiss Army knife of the bunch, ( good blocker, great hands, & has a little wiggle, he reminds me of Kevin Faulk).

    Winslow? I know it's a big if, but he is better than Keller if he's on the field.
    Hayden Smith? If this guys ready I believe he will be Witten lite.
    Cumberland? Now MM can just let him release into the secondary looking for mismatches. (We know he's not a great blocker), but he actually can run.
    * Add in the youngsters in camp Pantele ect., way more depth than last year.

    Wide receivers? The wildcard for 2013. Last year after week 4 we had NOTHING.
    Holmes was gone, Hill was hobbled & had no clue what he was doing & thinking too much. And with losing Keller at TE, defenses had to only stop Greene & Kerley to shut down the Jets.
    Kerleys year is much more impressive when you realize he had zero help!
    Now with Bray & Hill on the outside & an actual veteran TE to cover, Kerley will shine in the slot under MM.
    * Add in the youngsters & you never know if you find a pearl?
    I also like the idea MM can go three TEs with Winslow, Smith & Cumby.
    * I just love going into this season as a favorite for worst record in the league.
    Rex & MM are veteran coaches that will use this to their advantage. There are a lot of players on this team looking to make a statement.
    Colon, Garay, Ivory, Goodsen, Bray, Winslow, Barnes, Pace, Harris, Cro now that he's the man, Landry.
    While I don't think any of these individuals are game changers, when you add them up as a whole they provide a leadership & depth that we didn't have last year. Pace, Barnes, Garay & Harris will benefit from the young studs, Wilk, Coples & Richardson.
    Cro, Milliner, Wilson, Landry will benefit from a stronger pass rush.
    Ellis will benefit from Garay & Snacks for breathers.
    Even our average LBs will benefit from our strong Dline keeping them clean.
    Though we don't have superstars at the skill positions on offense, we have enough now for MM to jab defenses into mistakes.
    Like in boxing you don't have to have a huge overhand if you have a great jab.
    I see a lot of close games, where we tire out another team with our strong lines & then close them out in the second half with a burst from Goodsen.
    I'm very excited for this season.

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    Raiders92910 -is it you?

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    Offensive firepower?

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    You're talking about offensive firepower but you said everything hinges on health and the QB? Then you said Winslow is a big if. And, you said the WRs are a wild card.

    Lets not take this offense cobbled together with parts like Frankenstein and declare it the 1999 Rams just yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RussianGreen View Post
    Raiders92910 -is it you?
    After the surprising 1st quarter of the season you will believe,lol.
    Game 1
    Freeman will go down at least 8 times.
    Cro smothers Williams, D stops Martin
    *Jets D under Rex is always ready to go out of camp. Actually, I would say playing Rex 1st game of the year, AT HOME, when he's dialing up chit that no ones seen yet on film with a QB that makes a lot of mistakes (Freeman) is a bad place to start your season.

    Game 2
    Jets have played well in Gillette of late & should have won last years game. With Brady breaking in an entirely new group, maybe no Gronk. Can't ask for a better chance than that.

    If the Jets win the games I think they will, and upset a couple of teams in that 1st quarter, they have a very tough, middle of their schedule but then finish the season with a lot of winnable games.
    I think Jets will get better on both lines as the season progresses leading to a run for the playoffs at the end of the season, in their weakest part of the schedule.
    I never just throw away a season, too many things can happen in an NFL season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetstream23 View Post
    You're talking about offensive firepower but you said everything hinges on the health of the QB? Then you said Winslow is a big if. And, you said the WRs are a wild card.

    Lets not take this offense cobbled together with parts like Frankenstein and declare it the 1999 Rams just yet.
    Ha ha, definitely used the wrong word!
    Should have said if healthy they will have enough offense to compete.
    I think we'll be a dink dunk offense but have the players that can fight for the ball, lull another team to sleep & then have MM go deep to Hill.
    The running game will be he key, MM is not afraid to throw to set up some nice draws ect.
    We don't have stars but we have enough balance of vets & youngsters to compete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetster View Post
    After the surprising 1st quarter of the season you will believe,lol.
    Game 1
    Freeman will go down at least 8 times.
    Cro smothers Williams, D stops Martin
    *Jets D under Rex is always ready to go out of camp. Actually, I would say playing Rex 1st game of the year, AT HOME, when he's dialing up chit that no ones seen yet on film with a QB that makes a lot of mistakes (Freeman) is a bad place to start your season.

    Game 2
    Jets have played well in Gillette of late & should have won last years game. With Brady breaking in an entirely new group, maybe no Gronk. Can't ask for a better chance than that.

    If the Jets win the games I think they will, and upset a couple of teams in that 1st quarter, they have a very tough, middle of their schedule but then finish the season with a lot of winnable games.
    I think Jets will get better on both lines as the season progresses leading to a run for the playoffs at the end of the season, in their weakest part of the schedule.
    I never just throw away a season, too many things can happen in an NFL season.

    How many picks is Sanchez gonna throw against Revis?

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    Who is throwing the ball? Sanchez is Sanchez and although I like the Geno pick it is hard to assume a rookie QB is going to carry the team and it is unfair to put that expectation on him in his rookie season.

    Our offense is going to be a work in progress. Hopefully our RBs can stay healthy and shoulder the load. That will make things easier on whoever the QB is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heymangold View Post
    How many picks is Sanchez gonna throw against Revis?
    Revis will have at least 1 int returned for a TD. lock it up

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    As of now, we do not have a #1 qb, a #1 wr, a #1 te or a rb who has ever been a #1 guy.

    Best in the AFC no doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetster View Post
    Howard will only get better
    I love logic like this.

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    To be honest I'm sick to death of the stick our receiving core gets, yes it's no Broncos but its better then a lot out there.

    Look at the chargers..

    Denario Alexander
    Robert Meachem
    Keenan Allen

    Ravens..

    Smith
    Jacoby jones
    Errrr

    Jones got cut by the Texans because he is just a return specialist, he has never put up good numbers in his career.

    Pats, raiders, bills...I could go on.

    I think we are solid at receiver, it all just hinges on all stayin fit and being on the field together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetster View Post
    All of a sudden the Jets could have more offensive firepower than any other team in the AFC east.
    I realize you used the word "could", but I still think what you are saying is a stretch. However, I do think things don't look as dismal as they were. As you say, how well the offense fares will be largely dependent on the QB play.

    Quote Originally Posted by jetster View Post
    * I just love going into this season as a favorite for worst record in the league.
    Me too. This will allow us to catch a few teams by surprise (if we play decently). The Jets seem to do well in years when expectations are low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harrier View Post
    To be honest I'm sick to death of the stick our receiving core gets, yes it's no Broncos but its better then a lot out there.

    Look at the chargers..

    Denario Alexander
    Robert Meachem
    Keenan Allen

    Ravens..

    Smith
    Jacoby jones
    Errrr

    Jones got cut by the Texans because he is just a return specialist, he has never put up good numbers in his career.

    Pats, raiders, bills...I could go on.

    I think we are solid at receiver, it all just hinges on all stayin fit and being on the field together.
    I like the potential in that Chargers core just like i the potential in our core.

    Allen could be stud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoop24 View Post
    I like the potential in that Chargers core just like i the potential in our core.

    Allen could be stud.
    I agree no doubt he could be, point is Allen has serious upside just as Kerley and Hill do, yet Kerley is labeled "just a slot guy" and Hill is "stone hands"

    Just gets under my skin that we get branded while other suspect cores get a free pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heymangold View Post
    How many picks is Sanchez gonna throw against Revis?
    None, he'll be sitting on the bench eat a dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Nut View Post
    None, he'll be sitting on the bench eat a dog.
    Ok, so how many picks is Geno gonna throw to Revis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by heymangold View Post
    Ok, so how many picks is Geno gonna throw to Revis?
    Revis won't be ready for the opener.

    I'd take none if he plays though. Jets know who Revis is better than anyone else.

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    I love the new backfield, especially Ivory. I love Hill's potential with his physical skillset at WR and I hope he spends the preseason catching 300 balls/day working on his hands. I love the new blood at O-line to complement Brick and Mangold. I love the pick of Geno in the second round where there is great value.

    However, I am prepared for the likelihood this offense isn't going to be any good for the first several weeks of the season, possibly even the whole year. I think the FO did the right thing retooling the O-line and running game, and next year we can add some explosiveness to the outside.

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    I like your moxie.

    If and buts, injuries, and the like but we're looking at a substantially different team than last year.

    When you're rebuilding pick up some hold the fort dudes and those with some potential upside. Still way better than the injury riddled joke we had last year.

    Then there's Sanchez. ****!

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