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  1. #21
    gave that delusion up a long time ago
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  2. #22
    In 2010, Rex brought his rag tag bunch up Rte 95 & against all odds, & I mean against ALL ODDS!
    There was no one that gave the Jets a chance. I live up here & WEEI spent the entire week leading up to that game, asking callers to give them any reason the Pats could lose that game.
    Remember this is after taking a tremendous Azz whooping on a Monday night showdown just weeks earlier.
    Tom Brady vs Mark Sanchez
    Tell me Belichick didn't have a huge edge going into this game.
    Home field where the Pats had won something like 99% of their games over 5 years.
    Jets win! Keep Rex, fix the offense, win a Superbowl.
    Last edited by jetster; 07-26-2013 at 07:48 AM.

  3. #23
    I do, but I want to see a drastic improvement in our performances if we are not going to make the playoffs.

    It's not just been the losing under Rex the last few years, it's been the manner and the way we lost.

    Disgrace some if the things we did last year, if we are going to lose then do it with class and a bit of pride, make the other team know they where in a game, thanksgiving was a whole new level of embarrassment.

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    great head coach

    I'm glad he is going to get his long term extension this season.

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    Get an O going and anything is possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonEJet View Post
    Rex is the best coach we've had besides Parcells
    He took us as far as Parcells did in his first two years with far less talent. Who supports Rex? Anyone objective, and able to separate their emotions from reality.

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    Dead Man Walking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FF2® View Post
    Dead Man Walking.
    No Hernandez jokes please.

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    I lost faith in Rex. I think he is gone after this year.

    Would make a great HC for the Raiders though.

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    I do. I'm not sure if Rex will be successful with the Jets. But he'll get another HC job and be successful there.

    He's done things wrongs, he's not a "great" coach, certainly (though, that's something of a moving target, Jeff Fisher is a "great" coach, who is incredibly overrated, IMO). But, the regression of Mark Sanchez w/o a suitable backup option has just been deadly. Few, if any, coaches (espeically in the last 25 years), had any sort of sustained success without an average or better QB; and Rex is certainly, at least, partially responsible for that situation. But what the Jets did in the first two seasons with Sanchez was truly remarkable.

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    Everything I hear from Rex tells me two things: 1. He does "get it" and he's learning; and 2. He won't change his personality to appease media/fans.

    Let's start with #2 - Whether you like Rex as person or not, think he's arrogant, think he's "unsophisticated" or unrefined, you have to separate that from what he is on the football field. I think Rex is probably a fun guy to have a beer with and to shoot the sh!t, but I also don't care for the frequent SB predictions or excessive bravado. But I put this aside because these things are minor in comparison to what really matters - Rex's ability to coach the football team and win games.

    More importantly, I think Rex is a great football coach. When it comes to defense there are few better than Rex Ryan and it's an amazing thing to watch when he's got it going. Beating Peyton Manning and Tom Brady back-to-back, in the playoffs and on the road to get to the AFC Championship Game isn't something a lot of coaches can do. But Rex is the head coach, not the D Coord for the Jets. And that's where Rex is still trying to figure it out and I think he is. He knows he has to get better, he knows he has to adjust and figure out exactly what kind of HC he should be and the approach he should take (ex. hands-on? outsource the offensive side of the ball? become an overall team manager? get intimately involved with the D? push his agenda/personality on O?). The good thing IMO is that Rex hasn't simply taken one approach and stuck to it when it didn't work. He's tried several methods, some worked and some didn't. We know that when the locker room apparently "fell apart" and Rex was too detached from what Schotty was doing he decided to become a lot more hands on. And, that may not have been a completely good thing. When the O was doing well (great running game and a "good enough" passing game in 09, 10) Rex just let things be and didn't try to fix something that wasn't broken. But, when it did break in '11 he was too late to recognize it and was out of touch with the offense. He then started showing up at offensive meetings, tried to influence things a little more and spent less time "teaching" defense and staying involved there. Bottom line - I think Rex is still figuring things out. Let's remember the colossal failures that several good coaches were during their early years as HC (Anyone remember the years Belichick was in Cleveland? How about Bill Parcells almost getting fired from the Giants?).

    In my opinion, Rex gets it and isn't afraid to admit when he's wrong about something. The worst approach in the world is when you do the same thing over and over yet expect a different result. Put Rex's bravado, public persona aside and you'll see a smart, determined coach who is a great defensive mind and continues to incrementally get better as a head coach. This is an important year for Rex, no doubt about it, but he's probably the best coach we've had since Parcells and the Jets best chance at getting a ring anytime soon. Get him a QB!
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    I'm a fan .. Def has some growing pains ... I want to see him let MM & David lee handle the QB & offense ... Which seems to be happening

    Go Rex!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lamont_jordan_rules View Post
    I'm a fan .. Def has some growing pains ... I want to see him let MM & David lee handle the QB & offense ... Which seems to be happening

    Go Rex!
    Growing pains? This is year 5.

    I guess everyone was ok with the way the **** was handled the last 2 years. Like the owner gave him a do over so did everyone else apparently, then they'll ***** when we suck again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetstream23 View Post
    Everything I hear from Rex tells me two things: 1. He does "get it" and he's learning; and 2. He won't change his personality to appease media/fans.

    Let's start with #2 - Whether you like Rex as person or not, think he's arrogant, think he's "unsophisticated" or unrefined, you have to separate that from what he is on the football field. I think Rex is probably a fun guy to have a beer with and to shoot the sh!t, but I also don't care for the frequent SB predictions or excessive bravado. But I put this aside because these things are minor in comparison to what really matters - Rex's ability to coach the football team and win games.

    More importantly, I think Rex is a great football coach. When it comes to defense there are few better than Rex Ryan and it's an amazing thing to watch when he's got it going. Beating Peyton Manning and Tom Brady back-to-back, in the playoffs and on the road to get to the AFC Championship Game isn't something a lot of coaches can do. But Rex is the head coach, not the D Coord for the Jets. And that's where Rex is still trying to figure it out and I think he is. He knows he has to get better, he knows he has to adjust and figure out exactly what kind of HC he should be and the approach he should take (ex. hands-on? outsource the offensive side of the ball? become an overall team manager? get intimately involved with the D? push his agenda/personality on O?). The good thing IMO is that Rex hasn't simply taken one approach and stuck to it when it didn't work. He's tried several methods, some worked and some didn't. We know that when the locker room apparently "fell apart" and Rex was too detached from what Schotty was doing he decided to become a lot more hands on. And, that may not have been a completely good thing. When the O was doing well (great running game and a "good enough" passing game in 09, 10) Rex just let things be and didn't try to fix something that wasn't broken. But, when it did break in '11 he was too late to recognize it and was out of touch with the offense. He then started showing up at offensive meetings, tried to influence things a little more and spent less time "teaching" defense and staying involved there. Bottom line - I think Rex is still figuring things out. Let's remember the colossal failures that several good coaches were during their early years as HC (Anyone remember the years Belichick was in Cleveland? How about Bill Parcells almost getting fired from the Giants?).

    In my opinion, Rex gets it and isn't afraid to admit when he's wrong about something. The worst approach in the world is when you do the same thing over and over yet expect a different result. Put Rex's bravado, public persona aside and you'll see a smart, determined coach who is a great defensive mind and continues to incrementally get better as a head coach. This is an important year for Rex, no doubt about it, but he's probably the best coach we've had since Parcells and the Jets best chance at getting a ring anytime soon. Get him a QB!
    Very nice post. I agree with much of it, but my concern lies elsewhere and that's Rex's horrendous and inferior leadership skills. Even if everything you post is correct, Rex simply cannot lose control or lose "the pulse" of the team again. That's an absolute no-no for a head coach who is supposed to be a leader of men. He MUST stop pretending that he is one of the boys. This is where Rex has dreadfully failed and cost the team its unity and, I believe, wins. Do that again and I want him fired immediately. Simply put, losing control of the team again should be a death sentence for his stint as HC of the NY Jets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
    I want to bc I like Rex as a person but I need to see some significant growth and changes from him. It is Year 5.
    Me too.

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike D View Post
    Growing pains? This is year 5.

    I guess everyone was ok with the way the **** was handled the last 2 years. Like the owner gave him a do over so did everyone else apparently, then they'll ***** when we suck again.
    Vince Lombardi couldn't win more games than Rex did with last years injury riddled team & the 36th ranked QB in football!
    Oh, that's right, Lombardi failed in his 2nd attempt anyway.

  17. #37
    I like Rex. I want him to succeed but if he doesn't.... calling David Shaw

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    I like the coach. Some bad decisions were made in the past (did not evolve as planned), (ie Schotty, Sparano, Sanchez, the Ghost, etc). Maybe he was part of those decisions. If new GM calls all the shots and fixes the offense, we will be contenders again. Rex focusing on the D is great news

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnysd View Post
    I don't but quite open to being proven wrong. I actually think he has regressed as HC, and really now is just a DC with a HC title. He needs to just be DC like his father.

    It's not Rex's fault but he is symptomatic of a problem that plagues defensive coaches in that they dont believe in dynamic offenses, they believe in offense not losing games. On the other hand, ALL offensive coaches believe in a strong defense.
    I'll take a defensive coach with a HOF QB any day. The lack of great QBs is what is truly symptomatic, especially with this franchise.

    Since I have been old enough to be truly diehard and follow closely, we have had 1 great year of QB play and 2 good years. 1998 Vinny was great, 2001 and 2004 Penny was good.

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    Supa bowwwwwwl

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