By your logic, the Teachers' Union should also be excluded from making education policy. Their agenda is to protect the members of their union. "It is such a conflict of interest."
Originally Posted by copernicus
Irrelevant, given that:
As far as charter's go. There are different rules for them and they are so unfair and ridiculous.
Charter school's standardized grades do not count against them for the first THREE years of their existence.
1) Many charter schools are well out of the first three years of their existence (so this complaint applies only to a small portion of charters); and
2) Charter school scores will still be available to allow comparison of scores as against public school students. If the tests are "impossible to pass" and "designed to cause failures," then charter school students will have equal difficulty passing them - which makes the idea that the tests are a plot to make charter schools look good self-evidently false.
Can you explain how this has anything at all to do with reasons to expect charter school students to do better on common core tests than public school students, such that the tests are structurally biased towards charters?
Basically anything goes. They are often housed inside already existing school buildings creating scheduling nightmares. My public school has a charter school that occupies the fourth floor. It is a HS, I am in a middle school. Our building has only ONE gym, auditorium, and cafeteria. There are no physical barriers that separate the schools. When criminal minded students want to commit crimes they simply walk freely into the other school where no one knows their name or identity creating a more unsafe environment.
Can you explain how the presence of "criminal minded students" at the charter squares with your oft repeated (but never supported) complaint that charter lotteries are rigged to funnel the "good kids" to the charters and leave public schools with the dregs?
Can you explain how the presence of "20 year old held-back students" at the charter squares with your oft repeated (but never supported) complaint that charter lotteries are rigged to funnel the "good kids" to the charters and leave public schools with the dregs?
The charter high school has students that can be as old as 20 if they have been left back and the youngest in my school is eleven.
Can you explain how the presence of "special education boys" at the charter squares with your oft repeated (but never supported) complaint that charter lotteries are rigged to funnel the "good kids" to the charters and leave public schools with the dregs?
With the documented problems of bullying presently this is a recipe for disaster. There have been times when special education boys in the high school are found in the girls bathrooms of those used by the middle school. Real safe huh? Yeah, it's all about the safety of children!
And can you explain how any of this rant ties into the testing issue in any way shape or form?
LOL. Here it is again. So, apparently, "criminal minded" students, "20 year olds who have been held back" and "special education kids" are the hand-picked "best students" in the system?
Not everyone can go to a charter school. It flies in the face of one of the strongest philosophies that every students deserves a free education. Charter schools have a rigged lottery system, they hand pick the best students taking from the public school creating an almost a perfect situation for charters all the while taking away from the ps.
Do you even read the things you write?
Each year, there is a mass exodus of underperforming charter school students back to their zoned public school right before the state tests.
2) Again, how do you square your claims of "rigged lotteries" with "masses of underperforming charter school students"? Apparently, the folks "rigging the lotteries" are pretty terrible at cheating . . . and if the lottery system is delivering masses of underperforming students to the charter schools, how can you with a straight face claim that the "rigging" harms the public schools? Apparently, the lotteries are moving masses of underperforming students out of the public school system.
Is anyone given preference in the lottery?Yes. The law requires charter schools to give preference to returning students, siblings of students already enrolled in the school and students who reside in the Community School District in which the charter school is located. Charter schools are also permitted to give preferences for students at-risk of academic failure. As a result, some schools give preferences for students who are English Language Learners, while other schools give preferences for students who are eligible for free or reduced price lunch. Still others have preferences for students who did not score at the proficient level on the state tests.
Shouldn't students who don't have the academic skills for promotion be held back? And if there are these legions of letters going out, shouldn't one be available on the internet somewhere? Why isn't a google search turning them up? Feel free to point me to any evidence backing up your claims.
Students who struggle both academically and/or behavior wise in charter schools get frightening letters that state if they do not transfer to their zoned ps they are in jeopardy of being left back.
Odd - given that the majority of Charter schools are not for profits.
Charter schools make money for those connected to them period.