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    Today in LGBT News: Bradley Manning now Chelsea Manning, and a Great Way To Get Off

    Bradley Manning says he wants to live as a woman, be called Chelsea


    By Michael Pearson, CNN

    updated 9:42 AM EDT, Thu August 22, 2013

    (CNN) -- Bradley Manning wants to be a woman.

    The U.S. Army soldier sentenced this week to 35 years in prison for leaking 750,000 pages of classified documents to the anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks said Thursday in a statement read on NBC's "Today" show that will seek hormone therapy and live as a female named Chelsea.

    "As I transition into this next phase of my life, I want everyone to know the real me," Manning said in the statement. "I am Chelsea Manning. I am a female. Given the way that I feel, and have felt since childhood, I want to begin hormone therapy as soon as possible. I hope that you will support me in this transition."

    Manning's lawyer, David Coombs, told "Today" that he hopes officials at Fort Leavenworth military prison will provide his client the hormone therapy.

    "I'm hoping Fort Leavenworth would do the right thing and provide that," Coombs said. "If Fort Leavenworth does not, then I am going to do everything in my power to make sure that they are forced to do so."

    The issue of Manning's gender identity repeatedly surfaced in his court martial on espionage charges. A widely circulated picture released by the military shows Manning in a blonde wig.

    Speaking in the sentencing phase of his court martial last week, Manning said that at the time he decided to leak the documents, he was "dealing with a lot of issues" -- a reference to his gender identity crisis.

    Manning's lawyer: He should not 'rot in jail'

    In an e-mail to his sergeant titled, "My Problem," Manning included the picture of himself in the wig.

    "It's not going away, it's haunting me more and more as I get older," Manning wrote in the e-mail. "Now, the consequences of it are dire, at a time when it's causing me great pain in itself. As a result, I'm not sure what to do about it."

    An Army psychologist called by the defense said Manning appeared to be isolated and under intense pressure as a male soldier struggling with gender identity issues.

    Manning's announcement comes a day after a military judge sentenced him to 35 years in prison for leaking hundreds of thousands of U.S. military and diplomatic documents.

    Manning, 25, was convicted in July of stealing the documents and videos and disseminating them to WikiLeaks, the online anti-secrecy group.

    The military judge also reduced Manning's rank from private first class to private, ordered him to forfeit pay and benefits and be dishonorably discharged.
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    Bradley Manning should be free


    By Jesselyn Radack and Kathleen McClellan, Special to CNN

    updated 6:36 AM EDT, Thu August 22, 2013

    Editor's note: Jesselyn Radack is the national security and human rights director for the Government Acccountability Project, a nonprofit organization founded in 1977 to promote corporate and government accountability. She is the author of "Traitor: The Whistleblower and the American Taliban." Kathleen McClellan is the GAP national security and human rights counsel.

    (CNN) -- Pfc. Bradley Manning is one of the biggest whistle-blowers in U.S. history, and his case is one of the Obama administration's unprecedented seven prosecutions against national security and intelligence whistleblowers. His disclosures to WikiLeaks revealed war crimes and torture -- topics that are surely in the public's interest to know.

    The fact that the mainstream media around the world reprinted the bulk of his disclosures is evidence of the clear value in knowing what our government is doing.

    Manning was sentenced to 35 years, but should have been sentenced to time served already: 3˝ years, 112 days of which was improper pretrial detention, also known as torture. He suffered prolonged solitary confinement and was forced to be naked.

    Manning's trial was sparsely covered by the mainsteam media. The alternative media outlets who did cover the story comprehensively were faced with unprecedented secrecy, so much so that for months of pretrial proceedings, none of the court pleadings was publicly available. America should be better than secret courts and the criminalization of whistleblowing.

    The military prosecutors asked the judge to lock Manning up for 60 years in order to "send a message." Sending a message has everything to do with politics and nothing to do with justice.

    Although it was not the 60 years that the government asked for, Manning's 35-year sentence is still clearly intended to send a message for his conduct -- conduct that provided the public with evidence of clear wrongdoing and did no harm to the United States. The wrongdoers whose crimes Manning exposed enjoyed far gentler fates.

    Like Manning, my whistleblower clients, former National Security Agency executive Thomas Drake, who exposed warrantless wiretapping; and former CIA officer John Kiriakou, who exposed his agency's use of torture, were charged under the Espionage Act. Unlike Manning, they were not convicted under that act, although Kiriakou is serving out a 30-month prison sentence. As in Manning's case, the only person to be truly punished was the whistleblower.

    Drake and Kiriakou helped expose two of the biggest scandals of the post-9/11 era, yet they are the only two people criminally prosecuted in connection with them. The message is clear: It is safer for a government employee to violate the Fourth Amendment or to torture detainees or to gun down apparent civilians, as seen in the "Collateral Murder" video that Manning released to WikiLeaks. (That classified video shows a United States Apache helicopter firing on a group of people in New Baghdad in 2007 who do not return fire. Two of those killed were Reuters' employees; two children were severely injured. An Army investigation found the crew followed the rules of engagement).

    Manning's harsh sentence and the government's despotic desire to "send a message" represents yet another dismal step toward secrecy from a presidential administration that once pledged to be the "most transparent in history."

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    The government spending one dime to facilitate this farce would deserve a laugh track.

    Hence, I can totally see it happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 32green View Post
    The government spending one dime to facilitate this farce would deserve a laugh track.

    Hence, I can totally see it happening.

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    I think there is tax dollars already going towards this in some cities.

    EDIT: Looks like we have already gone off the cliff.

    http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines...168480556.html

    http://familyfoundation.org/2012/09/...or-a-murderer/

    http://seattletimes.com/html/localne...change10m.html
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    I'd hit it.




















































    someone had to say it

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    why is wanting to be a woman a great way to get away with his crimes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by loluchka80 View Post
    why is wanting to be a woman a great way to get away with his crimes?
    Because no one can reasonably expect a woman to keep secrets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by loluchka80 View Post
    why is wanting to be a woman a great way to get away with his crimes?
    Because Chelsea Manning dint do anything. Get it?

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    The Army has already stated they do not provide any gender changing stuff for the shim.

    Quote Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
    I think there is tax dollars already going towards this in some cities.

    EDIT: Looks like we have already gone off the cliff.

    http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines...168480556.html

    http://familyfoundation.org/2012/09/...or-a-murderer/

    http://seattletimes.com/html/localne...change10m.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by 32green View Post
    Because Chelsea Manning dint do anything. Get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FF2® View Post
    The day after I stolded the Wacky Packs® I should have asked everyone to call me Brenda.
    Oh, you needn't ask

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    Quote Originally Posted by JetPotato View Post
    Because no one can reasonably expect a woman to keep secrets?
    Quote Originally Posted by 32green View Post
    Because Chelsea Manning dint do anything. Get it?
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by JetPotato View Post
    Oh, you needn't ask
    Lol....hey...whose the fat chick with the "Dunder bread" stickah on huh head?

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    Quote Originally Posted by loluchka80 View Post
    why is wanting to be a woman a great way to get away with his crimes?
    Because the LGBT Community will now support him rather strongly, as will a material portion of liberals.

    This traitor has already been given what will amount to a free pass as it is, perhaps spending only as little as 5 years in prison for what he did. Probaby get hormone therapy and a sex change on our dime as well.

    When he gets out, he'll be a Liberal LGBT Hero, and will bank like a pro off of his crimes.

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    So will "she" be using the PMS defense?


    Hey "Brenda" - we usually call you Sally. jus sayin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    Because the LGBT Community will now support him rather strongly, as will a material portion of liberals.

    This traitor has already been given what will amount to a free pass as it is, perhaps spending only as little as 5 years in prison for what he did. Probaby get hormone therapy and a sex change on our dime as well.

    When he gets out, he'll be a Liberal LGBT Hero, and will bank like a pro off of his crimes.
    Do you think the light sentence was because of the gender identity issues?

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    Quote Originally Posted by loluchka80 View Post
    Do you think the light sentence was because of the gender identity issues?
    His gender issues and depression over same were the cornerstone of his defense argument.

    So yes, I do.

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    Change his sex and send him/her to Egypt. They love women named Bradley.

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