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    Holmes medically cleared to practice....but he refuses

    Bill Parcells and Curtis Martin used to say there's a difference between playing hurt and playing injured. You can play hurt, but not injured. Holmes is no longer injured, just hurt.

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    injury to avoid training camp

    By BRIAN COSTELLO
    Last Updated: 8:51 AM, August 22, 2013
    Posted: 2:01 AM, August 22, 2013
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    Santonio Holmes says he is not any closer to playing, and patience is wearing thin around the Jets.

    An organizational source said many people around the team believe the mercurial wide receiver is just trying to avoid training camp and he is healthier than he is letting on. In fact, a source said Dr. Robert Anderson, the foot specialist in North Carolina who operated on Holmes, has cleared Holmes to begin football activities, but Holmes has resisted.

    Holmes claims he cannot run routes yet and will not give any timetable for his return. It has been 11 months since Holmes suffered a Lisfranc injury in his left foot that required two surgeries. Holmes said he still feels pain in the foot every day when he wakes up.

    “I can’t pinpoint a day when it will feel better because every day has been the same up until this point,” Holmes said. “I feel good some days. I don’t the others. This pain won’t go away. It’s something I can’t predict because I have to get up and I have to run. I have to cut. I have to put pressure on it and apply as much pressure as I can to run routes and to feel comfortable.”

    There is a theory around the Jets that Holmes will suddenly pronounce himself ready to play when the regular season arrives in two weeks and training camp is through. Holmes also missed most of last year’s training camp with what was listed as “general body soreness” and then a rib injury.

    Others inside the Jets think Holmes could wait to see how the team starts the season before deciding when to play. If the team is losing, he may wait a while. If things are going well, he will join the party.

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    i'll give the guy a pass for now. he had a bad injury and doesn't want to go full speed until he's confident in the knee. look at what derrick rose did this past season.

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    That's.....just.....awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by augustiniak View Post
    i'll give the guy a pass for now. he had a bad injury and doesn't want to go full speed until he's confident in the knee. look at what derrick rose did this past season.
    It was a foot. And I don't think confidence is the problem.

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    Have a feeling this is the media trying to create a story. Being medically cleared doesn't mean Holmes should rush out there ASAP. lisfranc injuries are tricky. getting himself into shape and studying the playbook should be enough for now. Come week one if he's still pulling this crap then it's a problem.

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    Santonio has already mailed it in. It's what he does. Quits on the season earlier every year - this year before the season has even started.

    He got paid and, since then, he hasn't tried a lick. He just wants to collect his pay, get cut in the offseason, and then try to find the next sucker.

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    Gonna give Holmes the benefit of the doubt for now. It is a very bad injury for a WR b.c they have to plant and pivot on their feet. He was running pretty good before the last game so it is not like he isn't trying.

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    It is very reasonable to believe his foot is still really bothering him. However, when it comes to Holmes... he doesn't deserve any benefit of the doubt. They really should just cut him. Santonio Holmes is not worth the trouble, a bad guy with a bad attitude. The Jets are better off without him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
    Gonna give Holmes the benefit of the doubt for now. It is a very bad injury for a WR b.c they have to plant and pivot on their feet. He was running pretty good before the last game so it is not like he isn't trying.
    What about Holme's past history leads you to give Holmes the benefit of the doubt? Is it always that he's been such a team player putting the needs of the team above his own?

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    Regardless of whether he's really ready or not I can't wait to have this bum off of our team. He gave us some great memories, but he's a grade A clown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrcoops View Post
    Santonio has already mailed it in. It's what he does. Quits on the season earlier every year - this year before the season has even started.

    He got paid and, since then, he hasn't tried a lick. He just wants to collect his pay, get cut in the offseason, and then try to find the next sucker.
    Except he has to show that he is healthy and still the receiver he was before the injury. He has to play this year. If he doesnt play and just sits back to collect a paycheck he will not have played for almost 2 full seasons and is looking at, at best a vet minimum contract with incentives as a FA next season. If he comes back shows he is healthy and plays well, he will receive a much better contract with more guaranteed money.

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    He may be telling the truth, he may just be trying to skip camp. Frankly, I don't care anymore. I just want another decent target this year for whoever is playing QB when the regular season starts.

    Jets can deal with whatever deception they feel is going on right now (if any) in the next offseason by cutting him.

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    I can appreciate that the pain might be bad enough that it impairs his ability to run and the injury was severe. That may justify not returning to play the second he is medically cleared to play.

    What I can't appreciate is Holmes' usual attitude of selfishness and what sounds like his usual attitude of making zero effort. I also assume he is trying to avoid playing poorly in TC for fear that he won't automatically be put into starting rotation (or worse). This way he basically gets a spot held for him on the team due to the size of his contract without competing for it. His contract was a bad move, even assuming he had played all of last season. Honestly it's just as well he doesn't play this season and the team tries to package him at a deep discount to another team once he decides he feels like playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sec.101row23 View Post
    Except he has to show that he is healthy and still the receiver he was before the injury. He has to play this year. If he doesnt play and just sits back to collect a paycheck he will not have played for almost 2 full seasons and is looking at, at best a vet minimum contract with incentives as a FA next season. If he comes back shows he is healthy and plays well, he will receive a much better contract with more guaranteed money.
    True, but Holmes has always been all about Holmes. To a certain extent, all players in the NFL are in it for themselves, but Holmes takes it too extreme degrees. He's thinking about Holmes and his next contract, what's best for the team won't even register in his brain. No-one should be under any illusions that Holmes gives a damn about what the coaches, fans, front office etc think. He will do as little (or as much) as he feels is in the interest of Santonio, nothing else.

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    Biggest assclown on the jets over the past 4 years or so. Hilarious how these forums would go ballistic every time Tebow tied up a shoe and yet the real culprits for the teams down fall get extensions and big contracts. I'll dance a jig the day this team dumps this fool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlton View Post
    Regardless of whether he's really ready or not I can't wait to have this bum off of our team. He gave us some great memories, but he's a grade A clown.
    I can't stand anything about him. Even when he makes plays for us, he's such a blowhard, showboating like he's never been there before.

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    not surprised. We knew what we were getting ourselves into when we signed him. We revolve around Tone time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sec.101row23 View Post
    Except he has to show that he is healthy and still the receiver he was before the injury. He has to play this year. If he doesnt play and just sits back to collect a paycheck he will not have played for almost 2 full seasons and is looking at, at best a vet minimum contract with incentives as a FA next season. If he comes back shows he is healthy and plays well, he will receive a much better contract with more guaranteed money.
    I remember last year he didn't want to the reps the WRs coached wanted him to do. He subsequently pulled his hamstring. I think he knows his body better than anyone. If he is running well then I believe him about the foot hurting when he cuts with it. Maybe he knows what his body can do better than the doctors do.
    Santonio probably lost more than a step or two and he needs to run precise routes to be effective. Let him tell us when he is ready. He's gone next year anyway you look at it.

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    I look forward to the day Sanchez and Holmes are no longer Jets. What else is there to say, really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    I look forward to the day Sanchez and Holmes are no longer Jets. What else is there to say, really?
    Nothing but aboot7 months and counting. Ive said it for months, only then will Team Idzik be fielded. Rex stands a good chance of receiving his walking papers too.

    Anyways, the Jets dont need Santoni-Ho when they have #FreeTheKerley.

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