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    Quote Originally Posted by 56mehl56 View Post
    Absolutely, and Favre would have fought him all the way. If it wasn't his philosophy , then why did he stick with it for 4 years , why after year 4 did Rex himself comment that he made a mistake on offense and needs them to become more of an attacking offense and lo and behold in come MM & Lee . Rex is one of those defensive minded guys who believe winning football is rooted in defense, Rex and Favre would have been like oil and water. And for the record , I agree with his philosophy somewhat in year one with an inexperienced Sanchez , where Rex & the FO blew a golden opportunity is in 2010, 2011 & 2012 by neglecting the offense and stubbornly sticking to what was successful in year 1. Being a good coach means adapting to the league and to the talent that you have, Rex did neither by forcing his system on the Jets and completely ignoring the fact that the NFL is no longer won by defense.
    Rex tried to move from a G&P, tried to go more air attack but Sanchez couldn't do it.

    You're kidding yourself, blame Rex for everything that happened with him here and now are trying to tell us what he would have done with a real QB.

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    2012 "Jets must have competition at QB!!!"
    2013 "Jets must not have competition at QB!!!"

    The media will always find an angle to bash the Jets. I remember the days when i was a kid and all the articles in the pre-season were about rookies and fluff pieces on the players. Now its all about grabbing headlines. I haven't bought a local new york newspaper in years and never will.

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    will either decision make much of a difference. and when has a Jets decision not been questionable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eckesg1 View Post
    You do realize we have 12 draft pick next year.
    What does that have to do with the past and having the right people around your 5th year QB supposedly ready to start to soar, now he isn't gonna soar obviously, but even if he were ready the people are not in place around him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Nut View Post
    Rex tried to move from a G&P, tried to go more air attack but Sanchez couldn't do it.

    You're kidding yourself, blame Rex for everything that happened with him here and now are trying to tell us what he would have done with a real QB.
    Bottom line I'm not sure why we continuing to argue this anymore , Rex has "relinguished" his control of the O to Marty and he's back focusing where he should - the defense.
    For Sanchez , its a new system a new OC and his last chance to either sink or swim.
    All these other things are the past and the slate has been wiped clean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtstar View Post
    how are the Jets a laughing stock this year?
    By their handling of the coaching situation ie firing the GM and not letting the GM pick his coach. Then this GM comes out and says that it will be an organizational decision on who the starting QB is and not the decision of the HC.

    By the HC saying at the press conference announcing that he is staying on that he will be more involved in the O now and that fans will see that the O will now carry his personality as an "attacking" O and then when training camp comes he ignores the O and says that he is going back to his roots and he will be teaching and concentrating on the D.

    By Rex Ryan saying that his D will be a top five D. Why? Not because there are great players but because he is such a great coach. A few days later he walks it back saying he doesn't want "to put pressure" on his players.
    Last edited by Queens Jet Fan; 08-24-2013 at 12:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queens Jet Fan View Post
    By their handling of the coaching situation ie firing the GM and not letting the GM pick his coach. Then this GM comes out and says that the it will be an organizational decision on who the starting QB is and not the decision of the HC.

    By the HC saying at the press conference announcing that he is staying on that he will be more involved in the O now and that fans will see that the O will now carry his personality as an "attacking" O and then when training camp comes he ignores the O and says that he is going back to his roots and he will be teaching and concentrating on the D.

    By Rex Ryan saying that his D will be a top five D. Why? Not because there are great players but because he is such a great coach. A few days later he walks it back saying he doesn't want "to put pressure" on his players.
    Disagree 100% The Jets are nowhere near the media story they were the last few years. Now part of that is because of all the problems going on in New England and Idzik coming in and shutting off the media faucet to a large extent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by batman10023 View Post
    Does posting to twitter really damage the team.,?

    And as someone else said its his team.
    So this fierce competition at qb that is so magnified by the coaches and media is not manipulated at all by the owner sending out a tweet of only Geno Smith "working hard."

    Scenerio 1

    Creates an awkward moment when Woody is told by the coaching staff and gm that Sanchez is starting bc he beat out Smith

    Or more likey to happen:

    Scenario 2

    If it is close as to who will start, Geno gets the nod bc who is going to cross the owner when he sending out tweets of who he thinks should start and has a history of meddling, getting what he wants, even if its not in the best interest of the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queens Jet Fan View Post
    By their handling of the coaching situation ie firing the GM and not letting the GM pick his coach. Then this GM comes out and says that the it will be an organizational decision on who the starting QB is and not the decision of the HC.

    By the HC saying at the press conference announcing that he is staying on that he will be more involved in the O now and that fans will see that the O will now carry his personality as an "attacking" O and then when training camp comes he ignores the O and says that he is going back to his roots and he will be teaching and concentrating on the D.

    By Rex Ryan saying that his D will be a top five D. Why? Not because there are great players but because he is such a great coach. A few days later he walks it back saying he doesn't want "to put pressure" on his players.
    And this is only in the past few weeks.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by copernicus View Post
    So this fierce competition at qb that is so magnified by the coaches and media is not manipulated at all by the owner sending out a tweet of only Geno Smith "working hard."

    Scenerio 1

    Creates an awkward moment when Woody is told by the coaching staff and gm that Sanchez is starting bc he beat out Smith

    Or more likey to happen:

    Scenario 2

    If it is close as to who will start, Geno gets the nod bc who is going to cross the owner when he sending out tweets of who he thinks should start and has a history of meddling, getting what he wants, even if its not in the best interest of the team.
    If it is CLOSE, or EVEN, WHYYYY would you start Sanchez when Geno will easily surpass him and rather quickly from what players and Coaches are saying?!

    Why delay the inevitable and set his progress on hold?

    Because some of you are hoping we suck so bad Rex will be fired and we can draft the almighty Bridgewater?!

    PLEASE!

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    IMO...right now...the Jets decision makers feel like they have a negative QB dilemma.

    They don't like what they see from Sanchez. He still suffers from poor field vision and decision making. Something that may never improve, to the point, where the CS has some confidence that Sanchez can run this offense efficiently. As I've said before...Sanchez will not be a Jet on the 2014 roster. He has no future here.

    On the other hand...they have not seen enough from Geno in preseason games. And they don't really know how he'll perform when under fire in real game conditions. A Week #3 preseason game is as close as you get to a real game situation. Especially so...when the opponent is a real hated rival like our neighboring Giants. This game can get seriously heated at times. I think MM-Lee-Rex and the rest, want to see how Geno responds and performs over 2-3 quarters in this game. To better gauge what to expect from him, when they decide to play him sometime this season. Be it in Week #1, or perhaps still early on like Week #3 of this season.

    So tonight's preseason start...is simply to see when does Geno Smith's future begin. Day One or in Week 3-4-5-Etc.

    Again...it's no longer about Sanchez...he's done as franchise QB NYJ. It's all about Geno...and when his ERA begins..

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    You're cherry picking Rex's quotes that are on entirely different subjects.

    One day he was talking about the Defense and VETERANS.

    The "not putting pressure on players" was about GENO and Semini trying to bait Rex into saying he wants him to do X to win the job.

  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Eckesg1 View Post
    Disagree 100% The Jets are nowhere near the media story they were the last few years.
    Everything is a matter of degree. I actually agree that they are not the same media story that they have been in the past but that doesn't mean they are not still capable of head scratching moments.

    I don't think you can say yet that the Jets are the model of a proper functioning football organization. They're improving but there is still a long way to go.

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    One of the stupidest articles i've read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenReaper View Post
    IMO...right now...the Jets decision makers feel like they have a negative QB dilemma.

    They don't like what they see from Sanchez. He still suffers from poor field vision and decision making. Something that may never improve, to the point, where the CS has some confidence that Sanchez can run this offense efficiently. As I've said before...Sanchez will not be a Jet on the 2014 roster. He has no future here.

    On the other hand...they have not seen enough from Geno in preseason games. And they don't really know how he'll perform when under fire in real game conditions. A Week #3 preseason game is as close as you get to a real game situation. Especially so...when the opponent is a real hated rival like our neighboring Giants. This game can get seriously heated at times. I think MM-Lee-Rex and the rest, want to see how Geno responds and performs over 2-3 quarters in this game. To better gauge what to expect from him, when they decide to play him sometime this season. Be it in Week #1, or perhaps still early on like Week #3 of this season.

    So tonight's preseason start...is simply to see when does Geno Smith's future begin. Day One or in Week 3-4-5-Etc.

    Again...it's no longer about Sanchez...he's done as franchise QB NYJ. It's all about Geno...and when his ERA begins..
    +1

    I wish we could have just cut or traded Sanchez, but IMO, the FO did not expect Geno to be where he was when we picked him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman Harris View Post
    Maybe they all knew Clemens sucked... Nah. Probably not.
    What could they POSSIBLY know over the great Copernicus?
    It's very obvious now that Clemens is not a legitimate NFL qb. But at the time, the Jets were building a young and upcoming team with a HC to match. When Clemens got his shot the Jets OLine was in shambles in a disastrous season. Usually, high second round picks get the benefit of the doubt after showing what Clemens showed, which was that he was not a total disaster. He had enough potential in the small window we got to see that warranted another look. If the Jets truly did not like Clemens then they should have drafted another qb or traded/signed a young upcoming qb to grow with this team. Trading for Favre shook the philosophy of building a championship from the ground up. It placed a prima Dona qb on his way to the HOF with a starting streak record on a young HC. Recipe for disaster and it played itself out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by copernicus View Post
    It's very obvious now that Clemens is not a legitimate NFL qb. But at the time, the Jets were building a young and upcoming team with a HC to match. When Clemens got his shot the Jets OLine was in shambles in a disastrous season. Usually, high second round picks get the benefit of the doubt after showing what Clemens showed, which was that he was not a total disaster. He had enough potential in the small window we got to see that warranted another look. If the Jets truly did not like Clemens then they should have drafted another qb or traded/signed a young upcoming qb to grow with this team. Trading for Favre shook the philosophy of building a championship from the ground up. It placed a prima Dona qb on his way to the HOF with a starting streak record on a young HC. Recipe for disaster and it played itself out.
    Now,ROTFLMMFAO.

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