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Thread: The NFL has eliminated the kick off.

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    The NFL has eliminated the kick off.

    Is there any question that the NFL has juiced up the K ball this year? Look at how deep in the end zone kicks are traveling this year. They are consistently 7-8 yards deep. I know the NFL has spoken out on how dangerous they feel kick offs are, I guess they found a way to neutralize them without having to change the rules.

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    They made the game safer by letting kickers kick it out of the Endzone. The law of unintended consequences. They need to rename football panzieball.

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    It sure seems that way. Folk (who has never been great on kickoffs) is now consistently pounding balls
    through the end zone. They must be "juicing" the balls

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    just start from the 20 then. will make game go faster

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    Let's wait until the weather cools off (and balls start being hit shorter) before proclaiming the death of the KO

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    Quote Originally Posted by doggin94it View Post
    Let's wait until the weather cools off (and balls start being hit shorter) before proclaiming the death of the KO
    I also remember Westhoff saying the shorter kickoffs were a strategy to try to get people down inside the 20 or force a fumble.

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    Do the Kickers have access to the balls before the Kickoff? IIRC, they used to and then the K balls were kept locked up. Kickers used to do all sorts of things to the balls (rub them down, microwave them, etc.).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trades View Post
    I also remember Westhoff saying the shorter kickoffs were a strategy to try to get people down inside the 20 or force a fumble.
    This. Every NFL caliber kicker has always been able to kick the ball 2-3 into the endzone on a kickoff from the 30. The problem was that some of them would need to kick a line drive in order to do so, not giving the coverage team enough time to get downfield. Last year, a few teams (led by Westhoff and the Jets) were experimenting with kicking the ball off high and short, and trying to make the tackle before the 20. Early this season, it seems like teams have abandoned that experiment, and are simply ordering kickers to boot it through the back of the endzone, which most of them can do when kicking off from the 35 and not having to worry about a too low kick resulting in a big return. Even a guy like Folk can kick it deep enough to discourage a return most of the time.

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    The NFL may have eliminated the KO return but the Jets have eliminated the punt return..

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    I agree something has changed. In two games have the Jets even had a chance to return one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage69 View Post
    The NFL may have eliminated the KO return but the Jets have eliminated the punt return..
    LMAO!!! Very Clever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage69 View Post
    The NFL may have eliminated the KO return but the Jets have eliminated the punt return..
    You know it seemed strange but the logic behind it was there. They had a rookie punter who they thought they could get after and get off his game. In addition to that we had a back up return man in the rain who wasnt getting any return yards anyway.

    They basically took the chance of a negative play out of the question and turned it into a possible positive. In the end we didnt lose or gain anything.

    Just because its uncommon doesnt mean it was a bad idea.

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    The NFL has been trying too eliminate the kick off for years. Eliminating the wedge block, moving the K/O up and now the juiced ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobR View Post
    The NFL has been trying too eliminate the kick off for years. Eliminating the wedge block, moving the K/O up and now the juiced ball.
    Coming next is a 4 game suspension if a QB hurts a w/r's feelings in public..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trades View Post
    I also remember Westhoff saying the shorter kickoffs were a strategy to try to get people down inside the 20 or force a fumble.
    Yep. Which is why I told people not to cry about Folk's touch back numbers in training camp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage69 View Post
    Coming next is a 4 game suspension if a QB hurts a w/r's feelings in public..
    In that case the Pats are screwed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jets31 View Post
    I agree something has changed. In two games have the Jets even had a chance to return one?
    It's good football is all.

    Why give a speedy return man a chance to take it to the house (even a very slight chance), when the alternative is playing defense against a rookie QB and no skill positions of note?

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    Is the kickoff ball different then the regular game ball?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage69 View Post
    Coming next is a 4 game suspension if a QB hurts a w/r's feelings in public..
    Imagine the suspension if the WR decked the QB behind closed doors!

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