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    Playmakers, Playmakers, Playmakers.

    I think it is beyond obvious what the #1 need on this team is going to be going into next season. I think Geno will show enough to not warrant drafting another QB next year. So the question is going to be, who do you guys want to draft next year to help this offense??

    Obviously Watkins, Lee and Sefarian-Jenkins are near the top of the list. I love Mike Evans from Texas A&M and Jordan Matthews from Vanderbilt as well. Its tough right now to see who may or may not come out, but there could be some decent playmakers available. Lots of picks and lots of money to spend next off season, should be a fun time around here.

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    Personally for me it's just too early to be throwing names out there. We have the whole college season ahead of us, senior bowl, combine, pro days, etc.

    But you are absolutely right that we need offensive playmakers. Hell.....that is what we needed last year and did not address it at all via the draft. We had so many holes coming into the season it was understandable.

    So next year I'm hoping something like at least three WR's, a couple of TE's, a couple of RB's, and for the love of god while not on the O side of the ball.......please grab a safety. I'm not very happy with Landry and hope we upgrade.

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    As RobR said it's hard to tell what round everyone will go and if they will declare. However, as of right now this is my rough estimate based off last year and how I think they'll play this year.

    WR - Marqise Lee, USC Top 20
    Height: 6'0 Weight: 195 Est 40 time: 4.45
    Pros: Long strides, superb athlete, accelerates quickly, can make the difficult catch, excellent leaping ability, effective blocker.
    Cons: Tracks deep ball poorly at times, and drops open passes sometimes.
    Nfl comparison: Jeremy Maclin
    College stats: 2011 Rec 73 Yards 1143 Avg 15.7 TDs 11 2012 Rec 118 Yards 1721 Avg 14.6 TDs 14
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PAWJ2FRTRFg

    WR - Sammy Watkins, Clemson 1st Rd
    Height: 6'1 Weight: 205 Est 40 time: 4.40
    Pros: Great speed, ability to beat press coverage, natural hands, good change of speed, elusive, sharp route runner.
    Cons: Not very physical, DUI arrest
    Nfl comparison: Roddy White
    College stats: 2011 Rec 82 Yards 1219 Avg 14.9 TDs 12 2012 Rec 57 Yards 708 Avg 12.4 TDs 3
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwrel&v=00EWkjb25K8

    WR - Brandon Coleman, Rutgers 2-3rd
    Height: 6'5 Weight: 220 Est 40 time: 4.55
    Pros: Good athlete for his size, incredible length, very good route runner.
    Cons: Must attack balls better, must get stronger, needs to be more consistent catching the ball.
    Nfl comparison: Marques Colston
    College stats: 2011 Rec 17 Yards 552 Avg 32.5 TDs 6 2012 Rec 43 Yards 718 Avg 16.7 TDs 10
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8zhPTLZ3Tdc

    WR - Paul Richardson, Colorado 3-5rd
    Height: 6'2 Weight: 185 Est 40 time: 4.48
    Pros: Great hands, can go up and make the tough catch, good route runner.
    Cons: Knee injury in 2012, needs to add weight
    Nfl comparison: Brandon Lloyd
    College stats: 2011 Rec 34 yards 514 Avg 15.1 TDs 6 2012 Rec 39 Yards 555 Avg 14.2 TDs 5
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WhaL8vLU1AE

    WR - Davante Adams, Fresno State 2-4rd (red shirt sophomore might come out because his QB Derek Carr is leaving)
    Height: 6-2 Weight: 205 Est 40 time: 4.46
    Pros: Speed to stretch defenses, natural hands, big hands, elusive, good vertical, can make tough catches, great hacks, keeps head on a swivel.
    Cons: Some focus concerns
    Nfl comparison: Hakeem Nicks ( I think he's better if he has a qb tho)
    College stats: 2012 Rec 102 Yards 1312 Avg 12.9 TDs 14
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uoTWdXtHGV4

    I haven't done full write ups on the rbs yet but these are the ones I like so far

    RB - Bishop Sankey, Washington 2-4rd
    Height: 5'10 Weight: 205 Est 40 time: 4.50
    College stats: 2011 Att 28 Yards 187 Avg 6.7 TDs 1 Rec 6 Yards 14 Avg 2.3 TDs 0 2012 Att 289 Yards 1439 Avg 5 TDs 16 Rec 33 Yards 249 Avg 7.5
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S6kmq_sqblg (It's long but shows all the tough carries not just TDs)

    RB - Dre Archer, Kent State 4-7rd
    Height: 5'8 Weight: 175 Est 40 time: 4.30
    College stats: 2009 Att 58 Yards 246 Avg 4.2 TDs 1 Rec 19 Yards 231 Avg 12.2 TDs 3 2010 Att 40 Yards 140 Avg 3.5 TDs 1 Rec 16 Yards 75 Avg 3.5 TDs 1 2012 Att 159 Yards 1429 Avg 9.0 TDs 16 Rec 39 Yards 561 Avg 14.4 TDs 4
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8dpvSqIAge4

    RB - Marion Grice, ASU 3-5rd
    Height: 6'0 Weight: 204 Est 40 time: 4.46
    College stats: 2012 Att 103 Yards 679 Avg 6.6 TDs 11 Rec 41 Yards 425 Avg 10.4 TDs 8
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UjwYycQEMY4

    RB - Charles Sims, West Virgina (transferred this year from Houston) 2-5rd
    Height: 6'0 Weight: 213 Est 40 time: 4.52
    College stats: 2009 Att 132 Yards 689 Avg 5.3 TDs 9 Rec 70 Yards 759 Avg 10.8 TDs 1 2011 Att 110 Yards 821 Avg 7.5 TDs 9 Rec 51 Yards 575 Avg 11.3 TDs 4 2012 Att 142 Yards 841 Avg 6.0 TDs 11 Rec 37 Yards 373 Avg 10.1 TDs 3
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xKdmmyvM5vM

    RB - LaDarius Perkins, Miss State 3-5rd
    Height: 5'10 Weight: 195 Est 40 time: 4.52
    College stats: 2010 Att 101 Yards 566 Avg 5.6 TDs 3 Rec 9 Yards 242 Avg 27.4 TDs 3 2011 Att 87 Yards 422 Avg 4.9 TDs 2 Rec 13 Yar 59 Avg 4.5 TDs 2 2012 Att 205 Yards 1016 Avg 5.0 TDs 8 Rec 19 Yards 169 Avg 8.2 TDs 2
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tosFLAO5IfA

    RB - Michael Dyer, Louisville 4-7rd (2010 & 2011 Auburn 2012 sat out at Arkansas State, 2013 Louisville)
    Height: 5'9 Weight: 215 Est 40 time: 4.48
    College stats: 2010 Att 182 Yards 1093 Avg 6.0 TDs 5 Rec 1 Yards 9 Avg 9 TDs 0 2011 Att 242 Yards 1242 Avg 5.1 TDs 10 Rec 2 Yards 7 Avg 3.5 TDs 0

    I haven't written full reports on Te yet but these are the ones I like so far

    TE - Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington 1st round
    Height: 6'6 Weight 276 Est 40 time: 4.65
    College stats: 2011 Rec 41 Yards 538 Avg 13.1 TDs 6 2012 Rec 69 Yards 852 Ave 12.3 TDs 7
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lPZ5ZDWEADo

    TE - Eric Ebron, UNC 2-4rd
    Height: 6'4 Weight 245 Est 40 time: 4.65
    College stats: 2011 Rec 10 Yards 207 Avg 20.7 TDs 1 2012 Rec 40 Yards 675 Avg 15.6 TDs 4
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ak0nS3HdM

    TE - Justin Jones, ECU 5-UDFA
    Height: 6'8 Weight: 277 Est 40 time: 4.72
    College stats: 2011 Rec 6 Yards 41 Avg 6.8 TDs 4 2012 Rec 25 Yards 346 Avg 13.8 TDs 3
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wCoLrQgfIC8

    I have a a bunch of defensive players scouted if anyone is interested.
    Last edited by Hollywood Nosebleed; 09-14-2013 at 01:59 PM.

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    Welcome to the forum Nosebleed. Not to many posts here during this time of year, so don't be discouraged with throwing out a few more scouting reports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobR View Post
    Welcome to the forum Nosebleed. Not to many posts here during this time of year, so don't be discouraged with throwing out a few more scouting reports.
    Thanks for the welcome RobR. I'll definitely be posting more players.

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    when it comes to the first round it seems like one 3 players are possibilities for us. personally i would go 1.Seferian-Jenkins 2.Watkins 3.Lee

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    Quote Originally Posted by GenoNation View Post
    when it comes to the first round it seems like one 3 players are possibilities for us. personally i would go 1.Seferian-Jenkins 2.Watkins 3.Lee
    I would be happy with any of those 3 in the 1st rd. As of right now my perfect draft would be 1st Sammy Watkins, 2nd Khalil Mack or Trent Murphy, 3rd (Bucs) Andrew Jackson, 3rd Eric Ebron, 4th Bishop Sankey.

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    Watkins, Evans, Lee, Sefarian-Jenkins, Gurley (is he eligible?)

    Give me one of those guys and I'll be happy.

    This offseason was all about building the foundation. I agree that we're absolutely starved for playmakers on offense. I still wouldn't be totally opposed to a kid like Anthony Barr at OLB, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Untouchable View Post
    Watkins, Evans, Lee, Sefarian-Jenkins, Gurley (is he eligible?)

    Give me one of those guys and I'll be happy.

    This offseason was all about building the foundation. I agree that we're absolutely starved for playmakers on offense. I still wouldn't be totally opposed to a kid like Anthony Barr at OLB, though.
    Gurley is a true Sophomore, so no he isnt draft eligible this year.

    As far as Barr goes, I agree, but Idzik better have a plan to trade back up in the lower half of the first round and get a playmaker. If somehow Mike Evans were to be available at the top of the second round then I would be ecstatic if they came away with Barr and Evans with their first two picks. Dare to dream....LOL.

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    Mike Evans just looks like a player Bellichek will fall in love with

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruby2 View Post
    Mike Evans just looks like a player Bellichek will fall in love with
    I don't see Mike Evans fitting his system. I could see him drafting Donte Moncrief WR Miss State or Colt Lyerla TE Oregon (jack of all trades master of none). Both of which I think will bust but Bellichek's system could make Lyerla beastly.

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    I like Jordan Mathews out of Vandy. He plays tough competition in the SEC with a roster that isn't really as talented as the teams he is facing, and produces. He has good size and speed. I don't think he'll ever be a true No. 1, but I think he'd be a really nice No. 2, and someone that might fall out of the first round, so maybe we can go TE-WR in the first two rounds next year.

    Lee is starting to worry me a bit. He hasn't been nearly the same, with Woods not there to take away coverage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Win4ever View Post
    I like Jordan Mathews out of Vandy. He plays tough competition in the SEC with a roster that isn't really as talented as the teams he is facing, and produces. He has good size and speed. I don't think he'll ever be a true No. 1, but I think he'd be a really nice No. 2, and someone that might fall out of the first round, so maybe we can go TE-WR in the first two rounds next year.

    Lee is starting to worry me a bit. He hasn't been nearly the same, with Woods not there to take away coverage.
    He was the one getting double coverage when Woods was there. The Problem this year are his quarterbacks who both stink...

    Donte Moncrief is the other WR i really like. Big, great deep Speed, quick out of his breaks and very tough...

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    We need speed at the rb, wr and tight end position. I think we will address qb in round 1, and then get a rb, te and wr in next years draft.

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    4 Offseason moves


    FA

    OLB Brian Orakpo
    FS Jairus Byrd

    Draft

    Sammy Watkins or Marqise Lee in the 1st
    Eric Ebron in the 2nd
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaming Mo View Post
    He was the one getting double coverage when Woods was there. The Problem this year are his quarterbacks who both stink...

    Donte Moncrief is the other WR i really like. Big, great deep Speed, quick out of his breaks and very tough...
    I don't think he was getting doubled all of last year, because Woods was just too good for teams to focus solely on Lee. This year, they are gunning straight for him. In the Hawaii game, they really held him in check (he had stats, but considering the talent difference) and he just doesn't seem as explosive almost. The QBs have been terrible so far, but for me to really be sold on taking a guy that high, he really needs to overcome the QB in college, especially cupcake teams like Hawaii. Obviously, very early and he certainly has talent and time to turn it around, but his start is concerning to me.

    How high is De'Anthony Thomas on people's list? I think he could be Tavon Austin like, and a monster in the slot/RB spot. But I have qualms about the Oregon system making him look better than he is, but he could be dynamic if his skills translate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Untouchable View Post
    . I agree that we're absolutely starved for playmakers on offense. I still wouldn't be totally opposed to a kid like Anthony Barr at OLB, though.
    Ding ding ding! I really want Barr if we're not going QB in round 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody56 View Post
    4 Offseason moves


    FA

    OLB Brian Orakpo
    FS Jairus Byrd

    Draft

    Sammy Watkins or Marqise Lee in the 1st
    Eric Ebron in the 2nd
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    Same thought process here, except my target in the 2nd rd is Lache Seastrunk.

    Also, I think we may have a good shot at TE Jimmy Graham & WRs Kenny Britt, Jeremy Maclin or Hakeem Nicks.

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    Too bad Ricky Seals-Jones is only a true Freshman. He will be a Top 5 pick in 2 years.

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    FS Jairus Byrd
    OLB Brian Orakpo
    WR Kenny Britt


    Draft - Sammy Watkins WR (1)
    De'Anthony Thomas RB/WR (2)
    Then a TE/CB with our duel 3rd rounders.

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