Hmm... Why does it seem like I've heard Pasts* fans talk about this so much before?
Now are you serious guy? Is this honestly where you're making your claim from???
It shows nothing- the ball could be on its way up, down, spinning in mid air, sandwiched between the two, doing yoga, practicing tai-chi...
Also, I don't remember this being one of the video camera angles, unless it's a screen grab...
I'll still rewatch, but this is a joke if it's what you're basing your opinion on.
Last edited by Guy Incognito; 09-15-2013 at 10:08 PM.
Originally Posted by FF2®
OK, you seem reasonable so I will run this by you. The wording is very important. They don't have to have a picture that's shows the ball on the ground. I repeat this because its key,,,,they don't need a picture of the ball on the ground, just evidence that its DID hit the ground. if you look at the pictures out there you will see the ball in the air a few inches above the turf, with neither player remotely in a position to get under the ball. Gates body in on top of his arms and Mayos hands are underneath Gates. take a look at the pic and ask yourself what happened next? There is only one possibility. neither player could have possibly caught it and the ball didnt go UP in the air.
Again, they don't need a picture of the ball on the ground, just proof that it hit the ground.
Incorrect bro ... Your omission is in this line
Here is the actual rulethey don't need a picture of the ball on the ground, just evidence that its DID hit the ground.
And the important part
A decision will be reversed only when the Referee has indisputable visual evidence
available to him that warrants the change.
Fact is they need indisputable visual evidence ... That means - YES THEY DO need a picture of the ball on the ground.
Again, thanks for being willing to put your name to it ... Unfortunately you are wrong.
I don't get this mentality. If you believe that, then rooting for the Jets is about as logical is rooting for the villain in pro wrestling. What's the point? You know you're going to get screwed. Unless you go into every game simply hoping your team can overcome built-in disadvantages... which again, seems like a waste of time. It's like rooting against the house in blackjack.
If you truly believe your team is starting on an uneven playing field, then you're an idiot for devoting significant personal time and emotion to hoping this disadvantage gets overcome often enough to make the rooting effort worthwhile.
I went back and watched it all....this is what happened:
Gates did not control the ball and it went up in the air......The Pats defender rolled over and the ball hit and rested on his body (NEVER hitting the ground).......HOWEVER, the Pats defender did not have any control of the ball that was lying on top of his chest because he was too slow to react.....Gates than wrapped up the ball at around the 1 yard line, while the ball was still resting on the Pats defender......NOT ONCE did the ball hit the ground
The correct call was Jets ball, 1st down, from the 1 yard line!!
It's unreal how they can call that incomplete.....Just because it wasn't a clean TD, does not automatically make it an incomplete pass.....Complete chickensh1t call
I also have a huge problem with overturning the Pats fumble....There is supposed to be indisputable evidence to overturn the call on the field.....NOT the other way around
I thought it was a bad call, but it wasn't as bad as the ref saying "the 2nd foot came down then the ball came lose, so it's an incomplete pass". His description of the call was a fumble and yet her overturned the call. They made me wish we had the replacement refs back.
Those two calls were horrible. We didn't play good enough to win the game, but we definitely got jobbed on the Gates TD. There was no evidence whatsoever to overturn that call. The overturn of the fumble made no sense either, he caught the ball, landed both feet down and turned to run upfield, and they reverse the call. Absolute crap call. Again, neither team played well enough to win that game, it was going to be one of those "ugly wins" for either team, but those two calls really held us back.
If I have a picture of the defendent firing a gun at the victim but the bullet is an inch from the victims face...but hasn't enterd the victims face...is that enough evidence?
In other words, he never got 2 feet down after controlling the ball and before the ball came out = incomplete pass.
As one poster mentioned in a thread: funny how the only owner on the officiating committee is bob craft.
And to the "bullet heading to the face" poster - are you kidding me? A ball that is moving between 2 bodies and a bullet inches away from someone's face is a poor analogy in the kindest of words.