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    Cool " Jetsí draft strategy hurts offense " ~ ~ ~

    It looks as if the Jets will be without their top two wide receivers this week. Santonio Holmes (hamstring) wonít play, according to a source, and Stephen Hill (concussion) likely is out, as well.

    Here is where the Jetsí 2013 draft strategy comes under question again. The Jets used their two first-round picks on defensive players, making it four straight years they went defense in the first round. That has led to a strong defense but a weakened offense.

    The Jets should have spread the wealth a little in April and used at least one of their picks on an offensive player. The Jets coveted wide receiver Tavon Austin, but the Rams took him before the Jets had a chance. Instead, the Jets chose cornerback Dee Milliner with the No. 9 pick and defensive end Sheldon Richardson at 13.

    Richardson looks like a star in the making, but he was just an addition to a defensive line that already was a strength of the team. Milliner has had a shaky beginning.

    The Jets would have been better off spending one of those picks on Tyler Eifert, the tight end who went at No. 21 to the Bengals, or Chance Warmack, the guard the Titans took at pick 10. Either would have improved areas that are weaknesses for the Jets.

    They also needed to take a wide receiver at some point to develop. There were not many top-notch receivers after Austin, but grabbing one in the second or third round would have been wise. The Jets have no depth at receiver, and itís a problem that hurt them against the Patriots and will hurt them again this week against the Falcons.

    > http://nypost.com/2013/10/01/jets-dr...hurts-offense/

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelly View Post
    It looks as if the Jets will be without their top two wide receivers this week. Santonio Holmes (hamstring) won’t play, according to a source, and Stephen Hill (concussion) likely is out, as well.

    Here is where the Jets’ 2013 draft strategy comes under question again. The Jets used their two first-round picks on defensive players, making it four straight years they went defense in the first round. That has led to a strong defense but a weakened offense.

    The Jets should have spread the wealth a little in April and used at least one of their picks on an offensive player. The Jets coveted wide receiver Tavon Austin, but the Rams took him before the Jets had a chance. Instead, the Jets chose cornerback Dee Milliner with the No. 9 pick and defensive end Sheldon Richardson at 13.

    Richardson looks like a star in the making, but he was just an addition to a defensive line that already was a strength of the team. Milliner has had a shaky beginning.

    The Jets would have been better off spending one of those picks on Tyler Eifert, the tight end who went at No. 21 to the Bengals, or Chance Warmack, the guard the Titans took at pick 10. Either would have improved areas that are weaknesses for the Jets.

    They also needed to take a wide receiver at some point to develop. There were not many top-notch receivers after Austin, but grabbing one in the second or third round would have been wise. The Jets have no depth at receiver, and it’s a problem that hurt them against the Patriots and will hurt them again this week against the Falcons.

    > http://nypost.com/2013/10/01/jets-dr...hurts-offense/
    I think thier plan, as stated was to draft Austin. When he wasn't available, they drafted the best avalable player on thier board.the rams really screwed everything up for us.

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    It's not a one draft fix for Idzik, it's going to take multiple drafts and some nice free agent pieces before this rebuild is complete.

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    The Jets stayed loyal to their board and I'm not going to crucify them for it. The 2013 draft was simply devoid of top shelf offensive skill position players and when the Rams plucked Austin, they weren't going to reach for a guy like Eifert or Hopkins. The circumstances hurt them, not their draft strategy.

    2014 will be an offensive heavy draft for us and Sammy Watkins is looking like a good fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GenoT View Post
    I think thier plan, as stated was to draft Austin. When he wasn't available, they drafted the best avalable player on thier board.the rams really screwed everything up for us.
    Question is, would Austin have really made that much difference with the team as it is at the moment? He's not exactly lighting it up in St Louis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelly View Post
    It looks as if the Jets will be without their top two wide receivers this week. Santonio Holmes (hamstring) wonít play, according to a source, and Stephen Hill (concussion) likely is out, as well.

    Here is where the Jetsí 2013 draft strategy comes under question again. The Jets used their two first-round picks on defensive players, making it four straight years they went defense in the first round. That has led to a strong defense but a weakened offense.

    The Jets should have spread the wealth a little in April and used at least one of their picks on an offensive player. The Jets coveted wide receiver Tavon Austin, but the Rams took him before the Jets had a chance. Instead, the Jets chose cornerback Dee Milliner with the No. 9 pick and defensive end Sheldon Richardson at 13.

    Richardson looks like a star in the making, but he was just an addition to a defensive line that already was a strength of the team. Milliner has had a shaky beginning.

    The Jets would have been better off spending one of those picks on Tyler Eifert, the tight end who went at No. 21 to the Bengals, or Chance Warmack, the guard the Titans took at pick 10. Either would have improved areas that are weaknesses for the Jets.

    They also needed to take a wide receiver at some point to develop. There were not many top-notch receivers after Austin, but grabbing one in the second or third round would have been wise. The Jets have no depth at receiver, and itís a problem that hurt them against the Patriots and will hurt them again this week against the Falcons.

    > http://nypost.com/2013/10/01/jets-dr...hurts-offense/
    This article is stupid. This is a classic attempt at trying to stir up sh*t with the team.

    The Jets took the best available player, that's what Idzik's strategy was. I thought it worked out very well as they netted the best CB, best DT, and best QB in the draft. The idiots with the post can sit their on their fat A$$es and play armchair QB all they choose.

    This is a strategy that I hope like hell Idzik uses FOREVER.

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    This article is lacking context or any analysis.
    The Jets two #1 picks went defense.
    The rest of the draft - 5 picks and 1 trade of a pick (a 4th for Ivory) were allocated to the offense.
    All those draft picks - 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 FB and 3 OL - show that the Jets are rebuilding the offense from the inside out.
    That is exactly the way you rebuild an offense, as that foundation is what needs to be in place before you start spending luxury picks on TEs and WRs.
    More importantly, it allows those 3 OL draft picks a "redshirt" year to develop without any pressure and be in a better position to contribute in 2014.

    Plus it also fails to note that the Jets 2014 draft class will likely be fairly robust with a minimum of 8 picks (1,2,3,3,4,5,6,7) and a max of 12 (4 comp picks).
    By year 2 of the Idzik regime he will have turned over 35% of the Jets 53 man roster with draft picks (assuming no trades up/down in 2014 draft) in 2013 and 2014.
    When you throw in Tannenbaum's last 2012 draft class, that adds another 5 players likely to still be on the team increasing that ratio to 45% of the roster filled with draft picks.

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    At the end of the day, Monday night they will have 5 rookies starting from this draft. That helps them big time in the future. Richardson is a stud and going to be great. Geno is going to be good and maybe great. Dee could be good, but jury is out on him. T-Bo looks very serviceable at FB and if Winters can solidify that Guard spot then we had an incredible draft. We can get a stud WR next year with some FA's and make a push for playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesR View Post
    Question is, would Austin have really made that much difference with the team as it is at the moment? He's not exactly lighting it up in St Louis.
    I believe Marty would have alot of plays designed to get Austin the ball in space. I blame alot of Austin's inefectiveness on Schotty.

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    Had we lost two DLinemen just what would this article be saying?

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    or Cro and wilson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snell41 View Post
    I believe Marty would have alot of plays designed to get Austin the ball in space. I blame alot of Austin's inefectiveness on Schotty.
    And Tyler Eifert is only averaging 3 catches a game. We should blame Shotty for only 3 per

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    Again, last year's draft was not big on offensive skill players. It was big on OL and LB. Eifert and Austin were probably the best two, but the Jets have a bad history of drafting TE's in the 1st round and Austin was taken by the Rams.

    This year's draft seems to be more stocked so I expect the Jets to draft a quality one in this draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by capoliver View Post
    Had we lost two DLinemen just what would this article be saying?
    monday morning QBs are what they are.

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    Ha find it funny experts are judging draft picks only after 4 games... It was going to take more than 1 draft to fix MT's mess.. We have 4 picks in 1st 3 rounds next yr, I suspect Izdik will go offense 3 of them.. Plus good amount of FA $ opening up when Sanchez is gone and others ( Holmes) will fill the O spots with FAs ready to play so not just depending on rookies.. Give Izdik atleast 2 yrs to clean up the mess..

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    Agreed. If Geno can manage to improve with swiss cheese at one guard position and no playmakers, imagine the strides he will make next season when given a solid line and a playmaker or two. Next years draft should be best available player at OL, WR, RB, TE or S at every pick unless something stupid happens and a special talent at OLB slips through the cracks.

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    The article is off base because it only looks at this year's draft. The more interesting article would have been to write about why the Jets have only drafted 2 WRs in the first 3 rounds in the last 13 years.

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    For your early picks you need to pick the best players. We had a hole at Cb and a guy they really loved on the dline. Teams that have built a dominant dline ie the giants have won recently. We offense a fair bit after the 1st few picks. We have a lot of picks next year and will probably use a fair number on the O.

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    I think it is interesting that everyone said that the jets had no talent and were in cap hell and that this year was a loss... Now, 4 weeks in, the jets are 2-2, have depth on both the OL and the DL, and most of their draft picks are making an impact, and yet we get a 'bad draft' article. Idzik said he planned on drafting the BPA in the first/second rounds, and then as the draft continues you draft for need. That is what they did. Better to draft smart then to reach on a player especially with a high pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GenoT View Post
    I think thier plan, as stated was to draft Austin. When he wasn't available, they drafted the best avalable player on thier board.the rams really screwed everything up for us.
    Yes but it doesn't explain this why they did not take a WR in the later rounds. Patton, Swope, King, Stills, Allen, Williams...etc. are all better than Gates.

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