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    As Super Bowl exits NJ, taxpayers on hook for many expenses

    http://blog.nj.com/njv_mark_diionno/...ast_for_n.html

    Geez the NFL wants the freaking sales tax, too.

    How long has this been required of getting the super bowl?

    How many stadiums built with public funds has this occurred in?

    The arrogance and greed astounds me.



    By Mark Di Ionno/Star-Ledger Columnist
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    on February 04, 2014 at 7:00 AM, updated February 04, 2014 at 10:54 AM

    As the NFL packs out of town, with their self-proclaimed all-American extravaganza, we should say good riddance, and make sure they don’t come back with their big money, big everything, big game.

    Because you, New Jersey taxpayer, are on the hook for the league’s big party for itself.

    Consider these facts:

    • The NFL pays nothing for security. It’s right there in the bid contract, which was obtained by The Star-Ledger. So who pays for the 700 state troopers who patrolled the game and circled overhead in two choppers? Or the New Jersey National Guard in their Humvees, who guarded the rail lines and stadium perimeter? Or the local police from a few dozen towns from New Milford to Millville (yes, there was a canine unit up from Cumberland County)? And this was just for game day. Add to that the security at the team hotels, Media Day in Newark, and the police escorts that the NFL required for teams, officials and media during Super Bowl week.

    The NFL bid contract forbids host states from collecting sales tax on ticket sales, parking, luxury box sales, etc. It keeps 100 percent of the revenue, so there was no state tax benefit to offset our costs.

    • New Jersey hotels and restaurants "got almost no bounce compared to what they expected," said Mark Giangiulio, general manager of the Summit Hotel and chairman of the New Jersey Hotel and Lodging Association. No bounce means no hotel taxes, nobody but the regulars in the local restaurants. Again, not much revenue to offset costs.

    • New Jersey’s NFL-designated host cities got no support for their celebrations. Secaucus and East Rutherford threw their own "non-sanctioned" parties. Good for them. Places like Montclair and Rutherford didn’t bother.

    • The NFL transportation plan all but forced tourists to New York. There were only four New Jersey FanExpress sites offering $51 bus ride to the game and they quickly sold out. Why? With 2,200 available hotel rooms in Harmon Meadows, the FanExpress only had four buses running.

    • The NFL made driving to the game almost impossible. One source very familiar with Super Bowl transportation plan said there at least 2,500 available private property parking spaces within walking distance of the stadium, but the league banned pedestrian traffic and passed on purchasing the additional parking.

    So what we got were the transportation headaches. Especially, the long, winding tortuous road home, where about 32,000 fans overwhelmed NJ Transit, with some waiting as long as three hours to board a train to Secaucus.

    Ray Araujo, who spent $4,000 for Super tickets, flew in from Seattle, and dropped "a good hunk of change" in Manhattan, blames New Jersey for only bad Super Bowl memory: waiting for the train.

    "I think this is a shameful mess," Araujo said, who waited for 2 hours to leave the game.

    "They could have staggered the ticket times, and created a comfortable place to wait. There was no organized line. To think, I came across the country for this. New Jersey did a terrible job planning."

    "I hope they never have another Super Bowl in New Jersey," said John Stewart of Seattle, who also stayed in Manhattan.

    And in those statements, lie the plain, awful truth about this New York/New Jersey Super Bowl. They got the tourist dollars, the celebs, the parties; we got the bad rep. We got the security lines, the transit crush, the exit traffic.

    We got the bad taste left in people’s mouth.

    And if that’s not enough to make you angry, here’s this:

    With their military flyovers, stars and stripes electronic banners and armed forces color guards, the NFL constantly wraps itself in the American flag.

    But as a nonprofit corporation, they pay no federal taxes. Nothing for defense. Nothing for veterans’ benefits. Each year around Veterans Day, they run a Salute to Service program, which involves merchandising and donation dollars for points scored in that weekend’s games. In 2013, the program yielded $800,000 to three military foundations. This year, the total was $455,700.

    Let’s put that in perspective: The cost of each of the 109 luxury boxes the league sold at MetLife for Sunday game was $400,000. Do the math. That’s $43,600,000, for a sliver of the stadium.

    Imagine the whole take. All for themselves.

    The NFL did not respond to an email request for interview.

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    They've got the golden goose at the moment.

    One wonders how long it will last.

    Concussions are the dark cloud that use to be on the horizon.

    But as long as we all want to watch the gladiators the beat will go on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FF2 View Post
    They've got the golden goose at the moment.

    One wonders how long it will last.

    Concussions are the dark cloud that use to be on the horizon.

    But as long as we all want to watch the gladiators the beat will go on.
    I think you nailed it. The NFL can name their price and New Orleans, Miami and San Diego will pay it.

    As for head injuries the NFL will take a huge hit if middle class America stops letting their sons play high school football.

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    The tax benefits given to professional sports are ridiculous, second only to the government waste left behind by the olympics.

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    People who hate the NFL, posting politics, on an NFL Fan Website.

    Just lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
    I think you nailed it. The NFL can name their price and New Orleans, Miami and San Diego will pay it.

    As for head injuries the NFL will take a huge hit if middle class America stops letting their sons play high school football.
    I thought there was no more middle class America?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warfish View Post
    People who hate the NFL, posting politics, on an NFL Fan Website.

    Just lol.
    I think this is a legit topic. I had no idea, go example, that the NFL doesn't pay for security.

    I'm sure this sentiment doesn't translate in other parts of the country, but it's a sore spot here: NYC got all the credit, and NJ got stuck with the bill.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Warfish View Post
    People who hate the NFL, posting politics, on an NFL Fan Website.

    Just lol.
    It's quite ironic for sure. But you can love the game and hate the league.

    You can love America but think the people running it are pretty bad, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FF2 View Post
    It's quite ironic for sure. But you can love the game and hate the league.

    You can love America but think the people running it are pretty bad, no?
    Yes and yes.

    Still, the NFL as evil empire is something of a laugh.

    Want corruption, try college football.

    Want to be mad because of sour deals, talk to your local politicians.

    Blaming the NFL for concussions or getting good deals is pretty silly tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warfish View Post
    Yes and yes.

    Still, the NFL as evil empire is something of a laugh.

    Want corruption, try college football.

    Want to be mad because of sour deals, talk to your local politicians.

    Blaming the NFL for concussions or getting good deals is pretty silly tbh.
    I don't blame them at all, all I said was I was curious as to how long the golden goose would last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FF2 View Post
    I don't blame them at all, all I said was I was curious as to how long the golden goose would last.
    As long as American tastes prefer it, and as long as lawsuits or loegislation don't ruin it.

    Of the two, I would fear the second one. As this thread shows, some see "concussions" the same way they see "cigarettes", i.e. evil corporate conspiracy we need Govt. to bust up, for the good of labor and one and all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warfish View Post
    As long as American tastes prefer it, and as long as lawsuits or loegislation don't ruin it.

    Of the two, I would fear the second one. As this thread shows, some see "concussions" the same way they see "cigarettes", i.e. evil corporate conspiracy we need Govt. to bust up, for the good of labor and one and all.
    I don't see anything in the thread about concussions and government, just about mom not letting junior play anymore, as more and more is known.

    If had to guess I would predict a slow decline such as boxing.

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    Did the New Jersey officials read the contract before signing it, if not they got what they asked for.

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