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    Cassell opting out of a 3.5 million contract suggests that he has a nod and wink arrangement with another team to sign him for a better contract.
    The only alternate scenario to that is if Cassell is looking for more money in Minnesota as a caretaker qb until the next draftee for the Vikings has more experience under his belt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gangrene View Post
    Cassell opting out of a 3.5 million contract suggests that he has a nod and wink arrangement with another team to sign him for a better contract.
    The only alternate scenario to that is if Cassell is looking for more money in Minnesota as a caretaker qb until the next draftee for the Vikings has more experience under his belt.
    The money really will not be that much different anywhere else. He is a 4mil at most QB. The question here is does he just not want to start anymore. He has been on that stage and is at the end of his career so there is very little reason for him to WANT to kill himself on the field. Would you rather make 3.5 and get your but whooped by 260lb LBs or sit on a bench for 2-3 years behind Luck making 3 mil? At what 32-33 he isnt getting a franchise deal next year.

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    Look at the 3 best teams in the NFL - Seattle, San Fran and Carolina and what do they have in common at the QB position? All 3 QB's think pass first then scramble for 1st downs when nothing is open. Not forcing throws is the key. As soon as you recognize that the play - based upon importance of that play and game situation - didn't produce an open receiver quickly its time to run and run for a first down or touchdown. The best teams going forward will have QB's in this mold. Geno Smith is in this mold. So is Michael Vick. Vick would be a great choice to back up Geno - don't have to change the offense for him. Too bad Tebow cant pass - Jets had the right idea - he had the running part down - just not the passing part. Peyton Manning was a sitting duck in the superbowl. If he could of run when his receivers were covered he could of changed the game. There will always be teams with their great pocket passers like Brady and Manning and the offenses built around what they do best but I think the running threat makes an offense even harder to stop. There is nothing more deflating to a defense than on 3rd and 10 the opposing QB scrambles 12 yards for a first down. Geno is that guy for the Jets.

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    Does he know WCO? Pass

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    You know your quarterback situation sucks when fans are beginning for the absolute horrendous Matt Schaub and Matt Cassel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeJam Football View Post
    Look at the 3 best teams in the NFL - Seattle, San Fran and Carolina and what do they have in common at the QB position? All 3 QB's think pass first then scramble for 1st downs when nothing is open. Not forcing throws is the key. As soon as you recognize that the play - based upon importance of that play and game situation - didn't produce an open receiver quickly its time to run and run for a first down or touchdown. The best teams going forward will have QB's in this mold. Geno Smith is in this mold. So is Michael Vick. Vick would be a great choice to back up Geno - don't have to change the offense for him. Too bad Tebow cant pass - Jets had the right idea - he had the running part down - just not the passing part. Peyton Manning was a sitting duck in the superbowl. If he could of run when his receivers were covered he could of changed the game. There will always be teams with their great pocket passers like Brady and Manning and the offenses built around what they do best but I think the running threat makes an offense even harder to stop. There is nothing more deflating to a defense than on 3rd and 10 the opposing QB scrambles 12 yards for a first down. Geno is that guy for the Jets.
    Great post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirStrike View Post
    You know your quarterback situation sucks when fans are beginning for the absolute horrendous Matt Schaub and Matt Cassel.
    As BUs they would be the best we have had sense Vinny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeJam Football View Post
    Look at the 3 best teams in the NFL - Seattle, San Fran and Carolina and what do they have in common at the QB position? All 3 QB's think pass first then scramble for 1st downs when nothing is open. Not forcing throws is the key. As soon as you recognize that the play - based upon importance of that play and game situation - didn't produce an open receiver quickly its time to run and run for a first down or touchdown. The best teams going forward will have QB's in this mold. Geno Smith is in this mold. So is Michael Vick. Vick would be a great choice to back up Geno - don't have to change the offense for him. Too bad Tebow cant pass - Jets had the right idea - he had the running part down - just not the passing part. Peyton Manning was a sitting duck in the superbowl. If he could of run when his receivers were covered he could of changed the game. There will always be teams with their great pocket passers like Brady and Manning and the offenses built around what they do best but I think the running threat makes an offense even harder to stop. There is nothing more deflating to a defense than on 3rd and 10 the opposing QB scrambles 12 yards for a first down. Geno is that guy for the Jets.
    Yeah except RG3 already has a busted ACL and the guys you mentioned are sure to follow. Other than that, totally agree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BleedGreen314 View Post
    Why? We know Schaub sucks. He's always been a weak armed, warm weather loving game manager. The guy set an NFL record for interceptions in the first quarter of the season last year. We know Cassel has something in there that came out in New England. The price is right, it's an instant upgrade than what we've got now.

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    And it gives Geno a chance to sit back with some experience under his belt and just learn being a pro QB.
    Dont know whats funnier that you think the Jets are looking to bring in a QB to allow Geno to sit or that Schaub is a weak armed, warm weather loving game manager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Nut View Post
    Dont know whats funnier that you think the Jets are looking to bring in a QB to allow Geno to sit or that Schaub is a weak armed, warm weather loving game manager.
    Unlike most people in this place I think before I post.

    http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairba...worst_kind.php

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    We need to either bring in a viable starter or draft a possible franchise QB ... Geno hasn't won dick.

    Cassel is not an option.

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    Schaub is a much better option based on a continuity standpoint- Schaub has been with Houston almost his entire career and grew there, although this year he disappeared. Cassel did okay taking over for Brady and was sought after because of that, but has bounced around several teams and struggled the majority of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamers View Post
    As BUs they would be the best we have had sense Vinny.
    Yeah but then it would be a Sanchez situation all over again when we brought Tebow in. One bad quarter from Geno and the fans and media would be calling for one of these guys. I don't think anyone wants to go through that again. If we were in a market like Jacksonville or San Diego then that would be okay, but this is New York and stuff like that gets blown out of proportion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eckesg1 View Post
    As a backup QB, I would prefer him to Schaub because I think Cassel is smarter.
    They both stink. Draft a QB to compete with Geno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fullblast View Post
    Just keep Sanchez.
    I'd rather cut resign Sanchez at a 1 year deal for around $1.5 mil. At least he's good in the playoffs. Schaub is garbage and Cassel is terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by detjetsfan View Post
    I'd rather cut resign Sanchez at a 1 year deal for around $1.5 mil. At least he's good in the playoffs. Schaub is garbage and Cassel is terrible.
    Gonna be something to see what transpires with Mark.

    1.5? Thats like a 500% pay demotion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SizzleBear287 View Post
    Schaub is a much better option based on a continuity standpoint- Schaub has been with Houston almost his entire career and grew there, although this year he disappeared. Cassel did okay taking over for Brady and was sought after because of that, but has bounced around several teams and struggled the majority of the time.
    They both underachieved with good to great supporting casts. Schaub had Andre Johnson, Arian Foster, a pretty good OL and a toop 10 defense and never even won a playoff game in Houston. Andre Johnson is one of the classiest guys in the NFL and he even got fed up with Schaub's ineptitude. Schaub is soft, has mediocre at best arm strength, is immobile and cannot beat a real defense. Don't get me started on Cassell. Guy had half a decent statistical season in New England years ago thanks to Wes Welker and doesn't completely poop himself last year in meaningless games and people still overrate him. Alex Smith, who hismelf is not a great player, took the same team Cassell had and went 11-5.


    Matt Cassell sucks
    Matt Schaub sucks
    Jury is still out on Geno and I'm being kind

    Draft a QB to compete with Geno. No more scrub retreads. Bottom f'n line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdJETSetter View Post
    Gonna be something to see what transpires with Mark.

    1.5? Thats like a 500% pay demotion.
    As much as some Jets fans still overrate Sanchez I doubt he gets more than that on the open market. He's headed for a backup job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirStrike View Post
    Yeah but then it would be a Sanchez situation all over again when we brought Tebow in. One bad quarter from Geno and the fans and media would be calling for one of these guys. I don't think anyone wants to go through that again. If we were in a market like Jacksonville or San Diego then that would be okay, but this is New York and stuff like that gets blown out of proportion.
    Not really. Cassell is 32-33 now and isnt really a fan favorite. Having Cassell as your BU is equal to having a Collins or Hasselbeck. Sure you know they can still play but you also know there is no future therer. Tebow was young and people still thought he could be a franchise QB. There is no reason not to have a good BU. You can argue it is the 2nd most important position on the team. If your starter goes down the team should automatically turn into a 4-12 team. Philly over the last few years is a good example of that. Andy got great play out of all of his BUs. You need to have a a BU that can play and we havent had that in a very long time. Pandering and saying it will hear your QBs feelings is not a reason not to have a BU. If that is the case like Sanchez was then he just doesnt have a pro mentality and shouldnt be a starter to begin with. Chad welcomed all challengers that is what kept him in the game. Coaches and GMs should never give a **** what the media or fans think also. That is how they get fired.

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    If we are going to bring in a QB in FA, Cassel would be at the top of my list. Not because he's so good, but there aren't any other good options out there in FA

    I'm under no impression that he's been anything more than an average at best QB, but he's proven to be good enough to win if he has a good team around him. Even last year with a bad team around him, played fairly well. Was clearly the best QB on the Vikings last year, which isn't saying all that much.

    He's also been inconsistent from year to year, which in some ways is bad of course, but when he's been good in 2008 and 2010 he's been successful. When he's had a good running game, he's been a good winning QB. If we get one of his good years he should win the starting job and we should be a playoff team. If he's not good he doesn't have to play.

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