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    Draft Dri Archer - RB

    Watched him yesterday on the catching drills and he was by far the best. Today he had the second-fastest time in the 40-yard dash since the NFL began officially recording times in 1999.

    Would be a nice addition.

    Former Kent State running back Dri Archer ran the 40-yard dash in just 4.26 seconds at the NFL scouting combine Sunday, narrowly falling short of Chris Johnson's record.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2014/sto...combine-record

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    What round is he projected to go in?

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    wow



    * Before combine

    NFL Draft Projection: 4th-5th round

    NFL Comparison: Darren Sproles/Dexter McCluster

    http://www.totalsportslive.com/2014-...rt-dri-archer/

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    Let's not be enamored with 40 times. Yeah, dude looks fast but look who he's playing against.

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    Looks like a smaller, more frail--Tavon Austin. A gadget type player, and possible return specialist. Like Austin, I think he will have trouble getting off the line of scrimmage, and would have tobe utilized on screen plays.

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    I'm okay with him in fifth round. Nice player.

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    I've wanted him for a while now. I wish he hadn't done so well. He's not a RB, and he's not a WR, but he makes plays, and runs good routes. Returns punts too.

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    A couple things about Dri

    First off - I dont think he will be there in the 5th round, but if he was I think it would be a great value.

    Secondly the comparisons to McCluster really are not accurate. McCluster was 5'9 172 and ran 4.58 Dri ran MUCH faster than that.

    He did 20+ reps on the bench, so he is not that fragile and while small, can handle 4+ carries a game as a RB which would really open up the offense, just by putting him in the backfield.

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    20 reps on the bench at his size is a pocket Hercules. I'd be cool with picking him in the 4th - this guy is a Weapon.

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    Could he be a Darren Sproles type back ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GWjet View Post
    Could he be a Darren Sproles type back ?
    I think sporles is a better comparison then mccluster.

    While he is obviously short, he doesnt seem frail to me at all - and his bench numbers kinda back that up. I think he could be an incredible weapon for our offense with is speed and ability to be used as a RB and slot WR.

    Tavon Austin had 9 rushes for 151 yards - and even if you remove his long run (65 yards) he still averaged over 10 yards a carry. Im shocked that he got such few rushing attempts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglenj View Post
    A couple things about Dri

    First off - I dont think he will be there in the 5th round, but if he was I think it would be a great value.

    Secondly the comparisons to McCluster really are not accurate. McCluster was 5'9 172 and ran 4.58 Dri ran MUCH faster than that.

    He did 20+ reps on the bench, so he is not that fragile and while small, can handle 4+ carries a game as a RB which would really open up the offense, just by putting him in the backfield.

    Agreed

    If you're drafting Archer, you're doing so with the plan that he's your KR/PR first and foremost and to line him up in the backfield and in the slot for 5-6 plays a game.

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    I like what I saw from him at the combine but I have never seen him play. Whether it be a RB or WR we need to get someone in this draft that is a KR/PR threat or sign a guy like McCluster in FA. The past couple of years we have gotten nothing out of our return game. Makes things that much harder for an already anemic offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Untouchable View Post
    Agreed

    If you're drafting Archer, you're doing so with the plan that he's your KR/PR first and foremost and to line him up in the backfield and in the slot for 5-6 plays a game.
    The key is ACTUALLY using the player, which is why tavon austin's rookie season is so ridiculous.

    Austin was given 49 total touches, even though he averaged over 10 yards per touch.

    By comparison, sporles hasnt had a single season with under 110 touches in the last 5 years (and in that span has only missed 3 games).

    If we do take Dri, which I personally would love, he needs 8 combined rushes/receptions to make drafting him worthwhile and to also actually see the return a player of his caliber can bring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglenj View Post
    The key is ACTUALLY using the player, which is why tavon austin's rookie season is so ridiculous.

    Austin was given 49 total touches, even though he averaged over 10 yards per touch.

    By comparison, sporles hasnt had a single season with under 110 touches in the last 5 years (and in that span has only missed 3 games).

    If we do take Dri, which I personally would love, he needs 8 combined rushes/receptions to make drafting him worthwhile and to also actually see the return a player of his caliber can bring.
    Sproles is 20 pounds heavier than Archer, that is a big difference for a guy who is 5'8", that is why Sproles has had good durability in the NFL. I would love a guy like Archer though, the whole key for him to be successful is that you need to really find ways to get him touches. You will need a package of plays that are designed to get him the ball, just lining him up at RB in the base offense would be a waste of his abilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FijiJet View Post
    20 reps on the bench at his size is a pocket Hercules. I'd be cool with picking him in the 4th - this guy is a Weapon.

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    This is where those compesatory picks will come in very very handy, for guys like this. Allows you to make a little bit more of a reach with our regular 4th or 5th round pick if you've got a comp pick at the end of the round too.

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    Ive been a big fan of this kid for a while. I think he is exactly the type of offensive weapon we need. Can return kicks and punts, can play the slot and catch coming out of the backfield and can even run the ball 3-4 times per game which will keep defenses on their toes. Unfortunately, his performance at the combine has opened a lot of eyes and I doubt he makes it out of the 3rd round. I can see a team like Oakland reach for Dri.

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    Interesting read.

    http://blogs.thescore.com/nfl/2014/0...al-Line+Stand)

    How Dri Archer broke science
    Posted by Sean Tomlinson under Ponderings on Feb 25, 2014


    ..... Archer broke science. The near record-setting 4.26 time posted by Archer gave Chris Johnson the shivers, as the Titans running back narrowly retained possession of his Combine best 4.24 set in 2008. But a day later we learned Archer did something far more remarkable by matching the other Johnson’s record. This is the part when I remind you that when standing at a full upright position Archer is 5’8″ and weighs 173 pounds, while Megatron checks in at 6’5″ and 236 pounds. Basically, that means Archer must be doing the running long jump with each step.
    Or at least that’s the assumption logical-minded folk would initially make. Then you go and watch Archer’s best 40 time again, and quickly you discover that counting his strides to dispute any claims of matching Johnson is not an easy endeavor. ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Untouchable View Post
    Agreed

    If you're drafting Archer, you're doing so with the plan that he's your KR/PR first and foremost and to line him up in the backfield and in the slot for 5-6 plays a game.
    Can you imagine Cooks & Archer on the field at the same time on 3rd downs?
    S&Gs somehow the Jets end up with this:
    1- Lee
    2- Cooks
    3- Niklas
    3- Tre Mason
    4- Tripp
    5- Archer
    Think MM might be able to build something?
    Our WR bunches would be insane!
    Lee-Cooks-Kerley- Archer in the backfield with Mason- Archer goes in motion to the single side! who covers him? who covers Mason coming out of the backfield?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglenj View Post
    I think sporles is a better comparison then mccluster.

    While he is obviously short, he doesnt seem frail to me at all - and his bench numbers kinda back that up. I think he could be an incredible weapon for our offense with is speed and ability to be used as a RB and slot WR.

    Tavon Austin had 9 rushes for 151 yards - and even if you remove his long run (65 yards) he still averaged over 10 yards a carry. Im shocked that he got such few rushing attempts.
    I don't put much stock in the bench for short guys. It's a lot easier for guys with short arms to do a lot reps. It's a good number, but he's not like Sproles. Like sec.101row23 said Sproles is 20lb heavier. That's a HUGE difference. Have you ever seen his thighs? They're incredibly thick. I'd love to have Archer on the Jets, but I'm not taking him before round 5. He's too much of a gadget player.

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