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    The Players Who Will Be, Or Might Be, Cut in the Coming Days

    Release season is officially upon us. In the past couple of weeks, teams have begun cutting players in preparation for the 2014 season. In some cases these moves are made out of necessity (all teams must be under the cap by the start of the league year on March 11th). In other cases, teams are simply making smart football decisions in order to create cap space before the start of free agency (which also begins on March 11th). In the next two weeks, many more guys will be cut loose. Below, I break down who will be the next to go…

    AS GOOD AS GONE

    Name Team 2014 Cap Number Dead Money Cap Savings
    Mark Sanchez NYJ $13,100,000 $4,800,000 $8,300,000
    Antonio Cromartie NYJ $14,980,000 $5,480,000 $9,500,000
    Santonio Holmes NYJ $10,750,000 $2,500,000 $8,250,000
    Julius Peppers CHI $18,183,333 $8,366,668 $9,816,665
    Miles Austin DAL $8,249,400 $7,855,600 $393,800

    While it’s possible that a player on this list ends up playing for their listed team at the start of 2014, it’s virtually impossible that any of them will be doing so under their current cap number. And I’m not talking about a simple restructure—these guys will all be cut unless they’re willing to take a pay cut (if they’re even given that option). Note: Notice that Miles Austin will only generate $393,800 in cap savings. But due to Dallas’ awful cap situation and Austin’s lack of production the past few seasons, he’s still a virtual lock to be cut. The Cowboys will likely designate him as a June 1st cut, and his increased cap savings will be used to help Dallas sign their rookie class.


    PROBABLY GONE

    Name Team 2014 Cap Number Dead Money Cap Savings
    Matt Schaub HOU $14,125,000 $10,500,000 $3,625,000
    Chris Johnson TEN $10,000,000 $4,000,000 $6,000,000
    DeMarcus Ware DAL $16,007,503 $8,571,500 $7,432,250
    Levi Brown PIT $6,250,000 $0 $6,250,000
    Carlos Rogers SF $8,094,531 $2,989,063 $5,105,468
    Jason Avant PHI $3,960,000 $710,000 $3,250,000
    Dimitri Patterson MIA $5,400,000 $0 $5,400,000
    Kevin Kolb BUF $3,600,000 $500,000 $3,100,000
    Adam Carriker WAS $6,510,416 $3,520,834 $2,989,582
    Chris Clemons SEA $9,666,668 $2,166,668 $7,500,000
    Zach Miller SEA $7,000,000 $2,000,000 $5,000,000
    Osi Umenyiora ATL $4,750,000 $1,250,000 $3,500,000
    Cortland Finnegan STL $10,000,000 $6,000,000 $4,000,000
    Chris Snee NYG $11,300,000 $4,500,000 $6,800,000

    Most guys on this list (and possibly even all of them) will be with a new team at the start of 2014. Some of them (like Chris Snee & DeMarcus Ware) may agree to pay cuts in order to stay with their respective teams. But in each of case here, it’s highly unlikely that a player will play the 2014 season under his current cap number. Note: I listed Matt Schaub here as opposed to the first section because of the catastrophic dead money hit he’d cost Houston. However, they’ll almost certainly cut him loose (probably with a June 1st designation).


    50/50 (OR BETTER)

    Name Team 2014 Cap Number Dead Money Cap Savings
    Troy Polamalu PIT $10,887,500 $2,637,500 $8,250,000
    Heath Miller PIT $9,466,500 $3,446,500 $6,020,000
    Earl Bennett CHI $2,450,000 $0 $2,450,000
    Letroy Guion MIN $4,300,000 $300,000 $4,000,000
    DeMeco Ryans PHI $6,900,000 $0 $6,900,000
    Brent Celek PHI $4,075,000 $0 $4,075,000
    Tramon Williams GB $9,500,000 $2,000,000 $7,500,000
    Eddie Royal SD $6,000,000 $1,500,000 $4,500,000

    With these guys, it’s at least a possibility that they’ll play with their current teams under their current 2014 cap number. But given the cap situation of each player/teams listed here, cutting the guys on this list or renegotiating their deals would be the smart move.

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    Sign the BEASTS for short money!

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    Very intrigued by Chris Johnson. I think he's still got some tread left and needs a change of scenery (and a better OL).


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    You should at least give the link to where you copied the story from.

    http://overthecap.com/players-will-cut-coming-days/

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    I can't remember the last time I was this excited for an offseason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astoria View Post
    Very intrigued by Chris Johnson. I think he's still got some tread left and needs a change of scenery (and a better OL).


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    I agree , it seems like this team was moving full steam ahead when we had Thomas Jones, if we can get a top running back in play, that will make things a lot easier for Geno or who ever is here including whatever WO's we bring in.

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    Celek is an obvious name to keep an eye on. Kolb too. definitely gotta consider the Miller's at TE.

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    I don't know why Cromartie is "as good as gone", it wouldn't be surprising at all if the Jets redid his contract. He's been a great teammate with the Jets, understands that he needs to take a paycut, and seems to be well liked and respected by his teammates. I'm not saying he won't be, but I think he's a guy the Jets see if they can work with.

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    I'm not deleting my post, because I'm an idiot and didn't read.

    While it’s possible that a player on this list ends up playing for their listed team at the start of 2014, it’s virtually impossible that any of them will be doing so under their current cap number.
    Last edited by Batmans A Scientist; 02-25-2014 at 12:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yayankee View Post
    AS GOOD AS GONE

    Name Team 2014 Cap Number Dead Money Cap Savings
    Mark Sanchez NYJ $13,100,000 $4,800,000 $8,300,000
    Antonio Cromartie NYJ $14,980,000 $5,480,000 $9,500,000
    Santonio Holmes NYJ $10,750,000 $2,500,000 $8,250,000
    Julius Peppers CHI $18,183,333 $8,366,668 $9,816,665
    Miles Austin DAL $8,249,400 $7,855,600 $393,800
    Before fully digesting the post, I just assumed this was a Jets-only topic. Its pretty remarkable that the top 3 "most likely to be cut" players are Jets. Good in that they will give us significant cap relief but bad in the sense that they are really crappy contracts. Cro's may be an exception in that he had money pushed from prior years and probably realized that he'd never see that money.

    $26m to the cap is a big chunk of change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joiseyjet View Post
    I agree , it seems like this team was moving full steam ahead when we had Thomas Jones, if we can get a top running back in play, that will make things a lot easier for Geno or who ever is here including whatever WO's we bring in.
    If you think RB is the problem on this team, I think you need to look at the big picture of chris ivory's season.

    1. LG was a small school rookie OT, who graded out as one of the worst in the league.
    2. Not a single blocking TE on the roster and the 3 players at the position are all backups AT BEST
    3. A rookie QB learning a new system who had no WRs or TEs that opposing safeties and LBs had to respect

    Working against all that, both Ivory and Powell had good seasons.

    Instead of focusing on chris johnson, what do you think that ivory and powell can do if we add 2 WRs, a real TE, and winters/Geno get another year of experience?

    I was 50-50 on the ivory signing, and still worry about his violent style, but the guy accomplished a LOT last year with no help. I would much rather us address RB with late round picks in the draft and let ivory compete with a much improved offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crasherino View Post
    Before fully digesting the post, I just assumed this was a Jets-only topic. Its pretty remarkable that the top 3 "most likely to be cut" players are Jets. Good in that they will give us significant cap relief but bad in the sense that they are really crappy contracts. Cro's may be an exception in that he had money pushed from prior years and probably realized that he'd never see that money.

    $26m to the cap is a big chunk of change.
    I'm not sure I totally agree. These are contracts specifically set up so that the players could be cut fairly easily. The Sanchez contract didn't make a lot of sense, and Holmes was a disaster, but these are the contracts that you make specifically so that you have an out clause. Nick Mangold's contract is like that in 2015, and Brick's is in 2016 (though the Jets could save $2.5M by cutting him next year, but it's hard to believe he'd be so bad this coming season that the Jets would consider that). Both the contracts for Mike Wallace and Mario Williams are at that point in 2016 (Though if Wallace is terrible this year, it's conceivable the Dolphins take a $6M cap hit and save $6M in 2015)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astoria View Post
    Very intrigued by Chris Johnson. I think he's still got some tread left and needs a change of scenery (and a better OL).


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    Same here. Would mind seeing him here. Not sure what it would take tho. Just seems like there is so much potential with him.

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    re: Chris Johnson, I just can't see him going from 6mm to something like 1mm, and I can't imagine the Jets offering more...

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    ...also I agree with Batman let's get Cro back in green at a cap friendly figure

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    Man, if we sign Ware we will have that premier pass rusher we've been missing the past 5 years!

    It'll be interesting to see what Idzik has in mind for the OLB position. It seems he values speed on defense and pass rush. While Ware will have a lot of suitors, there seems to also be a number of nice prospects/DE converts coming out this draft. This will be an exciting FA/Draft.

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    Would love to sign Heath Miller to a 1-2 year deal and pair him up with Niklas or Fiedorowicz in the draft.

    We need some TE's that can actually block worth a damn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suprjet View Post
    Man, if we sign Ware we will have that premier pass rusher we've been missing the past 5 years!

    It'll be interesting to see what Idzik has in mind for the OLB position. It seems he values speed on defense and pass rush. While Ware will have a lot of suitors, there seems to also be a number of nice prospects/DE converts coming out this draft. This will be an exciting FA/Draft.
    Maybe Rex agrees to give offense first 3 rounds in draft if Idzik gives Rex Ware as a FA.

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    wish San Diego cuts eddie royal really like him as a wr option

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batmans A Scientist View Post
    I'm not sure I totally agree. These are contracts specifically set up so that the players could be cut fairly easily. The Sanchez contract didn't make a lot of sense, and Holmes was a disaster, but these are the contracts that you make specifically so that you have an out clause. Nick Mangold's contract is like that in 2015, and Brick's is in 2016 (though the Jets could save $2.5M by cutting him next year, but it's hard to believe he'd be so bad this coming season that the Jets would consider that). Both the contracts for Mike Wallace and Mario Williams are at that point in 2016 (Though if Wallace is terrible this year, it's conceivable the Dolphins take a $6M cap hit and save $6M in 2015)
    Yes, they are designed to be cuttable (pretty much all contracts are at some point) but Sanchez and Holmes were objectively sh!tty contracts. Especially Sanchez when he was still under contract for another year. They unnecessarily handed him a big chunk of money on the assumption/hope that he would turn into a franchise QB. At least with Holmes, the team's back was against the wall as he was a FA and the team desperately needed a #1 WR. But, make no mistake, those are 3 ****ty contracts.

    Collectively, they lead to about $12m+ in dead money. That's about 10% of the cap. Hardly ideal.

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    @RapSheet: Saves $3M cap space RT @Rand_Getlin: #Falcons safety Thomas DeCoud will be released by the 4th day of the league year, per a league source.

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