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So be it. Can I buy your season tickets and PSL's ?? E-mail me
Heard on Boomer & Carton that someone started a facebook page to boycott the Jets and Vick. Close to 10k likes or whatever already. Supposedly, they've got people taking pictures of their dogs with signs around their neck that have anti-Jet messages on them.
Meanwhile, the Jets are all like "LOL U MAD BRO?".
there are enough fans in the tri state area where a few who decide to boycott won't affect them . Curious if after the year is up and Vick is not resigned if those boycotting will return . Kinda makes no sense because we don't like the organization for doing this but after a year all is forgotten
A murderer was the face of the league and a hall of famer. A rapist the most popular guy in Pittsburgh. A rapist the longserving popular kicker in Oakland. A DUI/Manslaugher WR was popular for a while. Vick remains popular despire the systematic torture and sadistic killing of dogs. This is not a short list.
The only guy who seems to have missed out on this are retired guys who can no longer produce....like OJ Simpson for example.
Still, I think ~75% of fans today would want a in-his-prime OJ on the team, even after the trial and aquittal. Maybe even 90%.
Someone said it earlier, and it seems true...."if they can help my team win, I don't care what they do off the field".
It's hardly being a "Fair Weather Fan" to boycott/protest now.Good Bye Fair Weather Fan.
Fairweather Fans leave when times are bad or a team loses or is on a downward trend. They show back up when it wins.
The 2014 Jets are looking (with the moves thus far, the cap space remaining, and the number of draft picks in a deep talent draft) to be one of the best, on-paper, teams the Jets have fielded in years.
A fan who truly does boycott is most assuredly not being "fair weather" in doing so. Cutting off their nose to spite their face is more like it, abandoning what could be a VERY good team/year over their beliefs.
As I said earlier, the single most convincing argument (to me) is the utter and absolute futillity of a individuals boycott.
The only person harmed is the offended fan who loses out (and as a bonus, gets all the undistilled hatred of their fellow fans in a place like this) completely on something thy love and enjoy.
It's a compelling and logical argument.
B. Why does "admitting it" after he was caught red handed and being prosecuted, "serving his time" which he had no choice in and clearly at that time felt was wrongful persecution of him (i.e. he did not belive what he did was wrong), having a PR firm help him display being "contritie" so he can back in the image-conscious NFL, and tossing a few hundred or thousand bucks (of his multi-millions) to a charity to "make ammends" mandate that I, as a free thinking person, forgive him and support him and maybe bake him cookies?
My ethics tell me some acts are unforgiveable. I'm sure so do yours. We may only differ in what those acts are.
Or it's certainly possible your faith requires you to "forgive", which frankly I would question as being real forgiveness if your God says you have to.
I don't believe he's contrite or that he's made amends, I think he did what he had to and what he was told to do so he could make tens of millions of dollars again. Even if I did believe he was truly sorry for what he did, his act, in my view, is unforgiveable.
As with every free-thinking person, it'll be up to each individual to decide if they can support Vick or not. Or support the team but not Vick. Or not support at all.
How do I root for my teams QB with my wife and kids, with our 3 dogs sitting in the room with us. Then I say, "yes, he did some really bad things, but he plays for us now, so it's ok". I don't care if other people disagree with me, I can't root for that. It would be easier to push under the rug if he wasn't the QB, the face of the team, and he is going to start.
And how am I a fair weather fan? I remember the 3-13 season, followed by 1-15. I remember Roger Vick, chanting (hung over at the time) "We want Sapp" only to get a blocking tight end. I remember Blair Thomas' fumble which ruined the last chance he had at a career. I even remember my idol Joe Klecko blowing out his knee over and over, and trying to come back. If I stopped watching then, that would be a fair weather fan.
Want to talk about abortion, great, start a thread in the Poli-Sci section and I'll be happy to reply.
Trying to equivocate Vick with Abortion is just rediculous. The two things have nothing whatsoever to do with each other. Support for one does not equate to support for the other, disdain for one does not equate to disdain for the other, and the ethical questions involved are completely different.
Why is there this overiding desire to play the "Well, this other guy did this other thing and plays for some other team, so does THAT bother you" game?
Vick is a Jet. He systematicly killed dogs in a torturous and horrific way for fun and profit. Is it so mucc to ask we keep the debate on that, and not on if the ethnic cleansing of Albanians by Turkey in 1915 means we can't root for a Turkish player today?