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    [quote][i]Originally posted by MadAsHell[/i]@Apr 21 2003, 02:34 PM
    [b] Gee, was Steve Young able to take advantage of Jerry Rice'' vertical speed?

    and let's not forget Johnson is also over the middle possession NFL material.

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    Mad, you ninny, Jerry Rice ran a 4.6 AND Steve Young had a great arm. I just don't see Chad whipping the rock downfield on any 60 yard fly-patterns.

    And where do you see anything that would make you think that AJ is an "over the middle" receiver? He made his living running fly patterns and 15 yard in-cuts at Miami, not 5 yard slants.

    Also, I know that Chad hooked up with Randy Moss deep alot in college, but that was against CB's and Safeties who are tax accountants now. I like Johnson alot, I just was asking if he'd fit the WCO with Chad at the helm.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Tinstar+Apr 21 2003, 01:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (Tinstar @ Apr 21 2003, 01:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Lawyers[/i]@ Guns and Money,Apr 21 2003, 01:57 PM
    [b] That seems ridiculous. I don&#39;t have one of the charts, but I dont think 13+22 = 2. Then we would be getting Rogers for a 5th. Why would Detriot do either?? It seems to me we arent giving up nearly enough . [/b][/quote]
    what are you,a Lions fan.Be quiey and let them make us a fair deal,LOl. [/b][/quote]
    Tinstar I am still cracking up&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; But you are absolutely correct, I agree a 1000%LOL&#33; Tell that guy to be quiet and let them make us a fair deal&#33;

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    1.) First of all, you guys are all a bunch of dorks. You sound like you&#39;re chronicling the end of the world. But how much better am I? Not much.

    2.) Why has noone mentioned the name Jimmy Kennedy? Wouldn&#39;t he be there too? If we get #2

    dc

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    I know a guy who knows a guy that Voice Mailed me and said that Jimmy Hoffa is alive a is actually running the Jets draft this year using a Ouija Board, and that the rumor is the Ouija is partial to Andre Johnson, or DeWayne Robertson, or something. I have all the great sources

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    Is he the guy???????

    Or the guy BEHIND the guy???

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    Hey MadAsHell i love reading you post&#39;s,the are always a good read and your as smart a football fan as any man here&#33;But everytime i look at that tool morton i wanna beat my monitor in.Everyday you drive me a little more crazy with a new pic of him.I cant wait till saturday so you can change it forever :D

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by dcronin[/i]@Apr 21 2003, 02:45 PM
    [b] 1.) First of all, you guys are all a bunch of dorks. You sound like you&#39;re chronicling the end of the world. But how much better am I? Not much.

    2.) Why has noone mentioned the name Jimmy Kennedy? Wouldn&#39;t he be there too? If we get #2

    dc [/b][/quote]
    Because he is my top candidate for the biggest 1st round bust from this draft.The guy once weight 400lbs and he has trouble with his weight control.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by TomShane+Apr 21 2003, 02:41 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (TomShane @ Apr 21 2003, 02:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--MadAsHell[/i]@Apr 21 2003, 02:34 PM
    [b] Gee, was Steve Young able to take advantage of Jerry Rice&#39;&#39; vertical speed?

    and let&#39;s not forget Johnson is also over the middle possession NFL material.

    . [/b][/quote]
    Mad, you ninny, Jerry Rice ran a 4.6 AND Steve Young had a great arm. I just don&#39;t see Chad whipping the rock downfield on any 60 yard fly-patterns.

    And where do you see anything that would make you think that AJ is an "over the middle" receiver? He made his living running fly patterns and 15 yard in-cuts at Miami, not 5 yard slants.

    Also, I know that Chad hooked up with Randy Moss deep alot in college, but that was against CB&#39;s and Safeties who are tax accountants now. I like Johnson alot, I just was asking if he&#39;d fit the WCO with Chad at the helm. [/b][/quote]
    This ninny seems to recall Steve Young&#39;s arm strength not being the issue Montana&#39;s was, but hardly among the rockets of the league.

    Johnson is considered to be a combination of, as said somewhere here, a Keyshawn Johnson tough, fight for separation and for possession, not afraid to block, gutsy type "just get me the damn ball" receiver AND a pure, exceptional speed receiver.

    I try not to rely on any written reports of player value, tho I read as many as I can. I am a big draft "nut" but never comment on the qualities of players I have never see play.

    I did not see Johnson play AT ALL last season, having been overseas for the entire college season. (the reason why I have enjoyed the draft threads here but not participated this year is because I don&#39;t feel "qualified", sic, to do so...some players like Henderson, Bailey, Jeftwich, etc, I know ftom 2001, but many others I have no clear recollection of in individual games)

    But I did see AJin 2001 and in the Championship Game, against Okla.. oops&#33; Nebraska. And I think he is phenomenal.

    I am just a fan, like everyone else here, but I believe AJ to be an exceptional talent.

    This ninny wants him to be a Jet, come hell or high water&#33; :-)

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by dcronin[/i]@Apr 21 2003, 02:45 PM
    [b] 1.) First of all, you guys are all a bunch of dorks
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    AHHHH High school flashback&#33;

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Smizzy[/i]@Apr 21 2003, 02:49 PM
    [b] Hey MadAsHell i love reading you post&#39;s,the are always a good read and your as smart a football as any man here&#33;But evertime i look at that tool morton i wanna beat my monitor in.Everyday you drive me a little more crazy with a new pic of him.I cant wait till saturday so you can change it forever :D [/b][/quote]
    that reminds me, time for a tool change...

    later

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    Perhaps this is a rality...remember that Mooch like Chrebet...and he would be dependable hands for Harrington. Maybe it shapes up like this:

    Jets get: #2 overall, Shaun Rogers, Detroit&#39;s 4th rounder

    Lions get: #13, #23, Ferguson,and Chrebet.

    Then we go after some of the June 1st cuts (Russel?)

    D Line Rotation: DT Rogers, Evans, Russell DE: Abraham, Ellis, Thomas

    We draft a WR with the # 2 overall, I am partial to Rogers.

    Purely speculation, but I believe it works out for both teams.

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    TINSTAR, Kennedy will be the better PRO then Robertson&#33; I have seen him play many times. I even think that EASON will be better&#33;

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    We can&#39;t trade Chrebet he just resigned last year. The cap hit would be too large.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by dcronin[/i]@Apr 21 2003, 02:45 PM
    [b] 1.) First of all, you guys are all a bunch of dorks. You sound like you&#39;re chronicling the end of the world. But how much better am I? Not much.

    2.) Why has noone mentioned the name Jimmy Kennedy? Wouldn&#39;t he be there too? If we get #2

    dc [/b][/quote]
    High School? That&#39;s A junior High Flashback&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;LOL&#33;

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Kentucky Jet[/i]@Apr 21 2003, 03:01 PM
    [b] TINSTAR, Kennedy will be the better PRO then Robertson&#33; I have seen him play many times. I even think that EASON will be better&#33; [/b][/quote]
    hey Kentucky we should come up with some sort of bet - not money, but sign lines or something - not only do i think Robertson will be a MUCH BETTER pro than Kennedy - JK could be a bust when its all said and done. At best he will be a Russell Maryland, plug the hole type of player, good, but not among the league&#39;s best.

    Remember this three years from now - i know you have seen DeWayne play a number of times but damn the guy is 21&#33; in 5 years he could very well be the next John Randle.

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    Coles, pick 13 ,22 and a player to be named for a wide receiver?

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    In one swoop we can pick up Charles Rogers, Shawn Rogers and Charlie Rogers. WOOT&#33;

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    Just my two cents:

    If this comes to fruition, the Jets will take Andre Johnson. It&#39;s their method of operation. I can&#39;t see them making a blockbuster trade for a DT (Shaun Rogers) and then use the #2 pick for another DT. They&#39;re thinking that they can kill two birds with one stone-

    Get that elusive blue chip WR and blue chip DT that has slipped their grasp for two years, now.

    I would prefer they drafted Robertson, though. Only one reason-

    He&#39;ll participate in more plays than Andre Johnson, will. His impact will be more substantial. JMO. Plus, if the Lions throw in their #2, I bet the Jets can get a quality WR at that spot.

    The whole thing sounds crazy, anyway.

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    There are 2 stories 1.) Jets would get second overall pick for our #13 & #22 & 5th rounder. 2.) Jets would get Rogers in exchange for 1 #1 pick and the lions would keep the 2nd overall pick. Anyone know the truth?

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by TomShane[/i]@Apr 21 2003, 02:14 PM
    [b] Another thing~ Does Chad have the arm strength to take advantage of Andre&#39;s vertical game anyway? [/b][/quote]
    Considering Dorsey has one of the weakest arms of NFL prospects and Johnson averaged 20 yds a catch from him, I don&#39;t see this as a concern.

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