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    Pork Chop Cheney sure was right about the way we'd be embraced by the Iraqi people after we got rid of Saddam Hussein, wasn't he?

    At least 30 people were killed today in 4 separate suicide bombings. My God our attempt at colonialization of Iraq is a disaster of epic proportions.

    Hey Bush supporters, would you please care to remind us why on God's green earth CAP Bush deserves another four years in the White House? Because, I cannot think of one single accomplishment. His whole term has been a series of one catastrophe after another. In fact they have been so bad that right now the only honorable thing for CAP Bush and Pork Chop Cheney to do is to resign.

    [b]GET THE F OUT!!![/b]

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by tailgators[/i]@Oct 27 2003, 10:13 AM
    [b] Pork Chop Cheney sure was right about the way we'd be embraced by the Iraqi people after we got rid of Saddam Hussein, wasn't he?

    At least 30 people were killed today in 4 separate suicide bombings. My God our attempt at colonialization of Iraq is a disaster of epic proportions.

    Hey Bush supporters, would you please care to remind us why on God's green earth CAP Bush deserves another four years in the White House? Because, I cannot think of one single accomplishment. His whole term has been a series of one catastrophe after another. In fact they have been so bad that right now the only honorable thing for CAP Bush and Pork Chop Cheney to do is to resign.

    [b]GET THE F OUT!!![/b] [/b][/quote]
    I agree; we should go back to the days of blowjob bill clinton whene we stuck our heads in the sand while enemies attacked America, lived off a false economy and made believe everything was okay and everyone loved us!!

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Come Back to NY[/i]@Oct 27 2003, 11:08 AM
    [b] I agree; we should go back to the days of bill clinton whene we lived off a false economy. [/b][/quote]
    False economy??

    You're amazingly stupid.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by tailgators+Oct 27 2003, 11:31 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (tailgators @ Oct 27 2003, 11:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Come Back to NY[/i]@Oct 27 2003, 11:08 AM
    [b] I agree; we should go back to the days of bill clinton whene we lived off a false economy. [/b][/quote]
    False economy??

    You&#39;re amazingly stupid. [/b][/quote]
    no, you&#39;re amazingly naive&#39;...

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Come Back to NY+Oct 27 2003, 12:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (Come Back to NY @ Oct 27 2003, 12:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> [quote]Originally posted by -tailgators@Oct 27 2003, 11:31 AM
    [b] <!--QuoteBegin--Come Back to NY[/i]@Oct 27 2003, 11:08 AM
    [b] I agree; we should go back to the days of bill clinton whene we lived off a false economy. [/b][/quote]
    False economy??

    You&#39;re amazingly stupid. [/b][/quote]
    no, you&#39;re amazingly naive&#39;... [/b][/quote]
    Please list just one accomplishment of CAP Bush... just one.

    Can&#39;t do it huh?

    Didn&#39;t think so.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by tailgators[/i]@Oct 27 2003, 10:13 AM
    [b] Pork Chop Cheney sure was right about the way we&#39;d be embraced by the Iraqi people after we got rid of Saddam Hussein, wasn&#39;t he?

    At least 30 people were killed today in 4 separate suicide bombings. My God our attempt at colonialization of Iraq is a disaster of epic proportions.

    Hey Bush supporters, would you please care to remind us why on God&#39;s green earth CAP Bush deserves another four years in the White House? Because, I cannot think of one single accomplishment. His whole term has been a series of one catastrophe after another. In fact they have been so bad that right now the only honorable thing for CAP Bush and Pork Chop Cheney to do is to resign.

    [b]GET THE F OUT&#33;&#33;&#33;[/b] [/b][/quote]
    Allright.....Lets take these one at a time.

    The Iraqi people have embraced us for getting rid of the evil dictator and his demented family and supporters, there was a pole taken where 90 % of the Iraqi people approved of what we did and want us to stay and help them right their country, even some democratic congressmen who went over there were forced to admit the news wasn&#39;t reporting the actual Iraqi peoples feelings accurately.

    The only people who want us out of there { not including american liberals } are the 10 % former baathists who wish to go back to the good old days when they were free to rape and pillage as they saw fit, and, the muslim extremists who are coming in from Iran, Syria etc.....trying to get us the hell out of there because they realize that if the U.S were allowed to turn Iraq { and Afghanistan } into democracys that wanted to help the people as opposed to repress them they would lose 2 valuable terrorist supporting regimes and if the other people in the middle east were to see that democracy isn&#39;t anything like they&#39;ve been told and it&#39;s really not centered around porno and drugs and is actually preferrable to what they now have then the negative sentiment against us may begin to change and that&#39;s the last thing the extremists can allow to happen.

    Where you go from people are being killed over there to " our attempt at colonization is a disaster of epic proportions " is baffling, what did you expect, the moment we take some casualties we should just tuck our tails between our legs and evacuate as quickly as possible ?.....and what message do you think that sends to the radicals over there, that we don&#39;t have the courage of our convictions and really are the paper tiger they&#39;ve tried to paint us as, that&#39;s exactly the message we&#39;d be sending the whole region which would take away any credibility we have not only over there but around the globe as well.

    We were right to go in there in the first place { regardless of whether we find the WMD&#39;s or not } and we&#39;re doing the right thing over there every single day, we were attacked on 9-11 and while Hussein was not directly responsible for that particular attack he was a terrorist enabler who needed to go, as for fighting the terrorists and mercenaries over there I&#39;d much rather see our military taking on those extremist elements in Iraq and keeping Al-Qaeda and their ilk on the move and disorganized than the alternative which is to do nothing and then sit around and hope we can prevent the next 9-11 style attack.

    Have you noticed the fact that there have been no major terrorist attacks on U.S soil since 9-11 ?.....you think maybe the fact that the F.B.I and our military have been aggressive taking prisioners and getting insight into Al-Quada&#39;s operations and plans has had something to do with it ?.....you think the fact that the militants have had to send their killers over to Iraq to try to defend their demented way of life has slowed them down a little from their quest to kill as many americans as possible ?.....I think our approach has prevented Al-qaeda&#39;s ability to plan new attacks over here and this administration is directly responsible for saving lives that would&#39;ve been taken had we taken the democratic approach which would have been the equivilant of running to the U.N and whining while accomplishing nothing.

    Of course, it&#39;s easier to blast the administration for the relatively few lives lost in Iraq and overlook all the good that&#39;s being done over there and never mention the lives that have been saved by our approach, that way if you convince enough people that Bush is inept you could win back the White House in 2004 and get the military back to doing the truly important work that it was designed for, building toilets in Kosovo.

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    Factor in all these pacific rim muslim countries who rely on the American economy have been put on notice, and have responded for the most part, that they better work to exterminate their terrorist problems.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by MARYLAND JET[/i]@Oct 27 2003, 01:40 PM
    [b] The Iraqi people have embraced us for getting rid of the evil dictator and his demented family and supporters.

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    The Iraqi people have embraced us? Are you on crack?

    The poll you cited was total garbage. Open your eyes, they hate us over there and the U.S. occupation of Iraq is only making it worse.

    If you wanted to get even for the criminal attack of September 2001 we should&#39;ve invaded Aruba. Afterall they had as much to do with the attack as Iraq did. Besides its closer to home and a lot more pleasant there.

    Face it Bush is a disgrace and a national embarrasment. He should resign now and take Pork Chop Cheney with him.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by tailgators+Oct 27 2003, 02:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (tailgators @ Oct 27 2003, 02:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--MARYLAND JET[/i]@Oct 27 2003, 01:40 PM
    [b] The Iraqi people have embraced us for getting rid of the evil dictator and his demented family and supporters.

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    The Iraqi people have embraced us? Are you on crack?

    The poll you cited was total garbage. Open your eyes, they hate us over there and the U.S. occupation of Iraq is only making it worse.

    If you wanted to get even for the criminal attack of September 2001 we should&#39;ve invaded Aruba. Afterall they had as much to do with the attack as Iraq did. Besides its closer to home and a lot more pleasant there.

    Face it Bush is a disgrace and a national embarrasment. He should resign now and take Pork Chop Cheney with him. [/b][/quote]
    Gimme a break.....the poll that was cited was a hell of a lot more credible than anything you&#39;d hear from the elite media, { like they&#39;ve got no agenda }, if we were so hated over there by the average Iraqi then why did I see all those democratic congressman come back from Iraq and state how surprised they were that we were being embraced by the majority of people ?.....maybe they were getting their information on the mood of the typical Iraqi from bad sources ?.

    When the elite media lives by the credo " if it bleeds, it leads " you tend to get a somewhat skewed notion of what&#39;s really going on over there, what should be reported is all the advances we&#39;ve made against the terrorists and how the country is being turned around for the better of all...but...I guess that&#39;s not " sexy " enough of a story to be focused on and besides, it&#39;s contrary to the elite media&#39;s ultimate goal of giving republicans credit for anything { especially within 18 months of an election }.

    I suppose it would&#39;ve been easier to attack Aruba but since Aruba didn&#39;t conspire with terrorists, have a dictator who was trying to assemble WMD&#39;s { atleast according to Clinton / U.N }, or ever take any aggressive actions against it&#39;s neighbors I&#39;m thinking we made the right call leaving them alone and going after Iraq.

    This wasn&#39;t about " getting even " for 9-11, this is about erasing terrorism from the face of the earth which is the root cause behind 9-11, maybe you&#39;d prefer the democrats way of dealing with situations, maybe we could&#39;ve handled the whole thing like Clinton did with the North Koreans, we could give Iraq money and fuel and build them a friggin nuclear reactor if they&#39;d just promise us they won&#39;t try to get nukes.....maybe we should&#39;ve trotted out Jimmy Carter to talk with Hussein and say how Saddam is " someone he can deal with " like he said about Kin Il Jong so he can then sell us down the river again...but...{atleast he got the Nobel Peace Prize so we&#39;ve atleast got that going for us. }....maybe we could&#39;ve found a way to diplomatically manuever Colin Powell to hit the dance floor with Saddam { remember M.Albright and Kim Il ? } and have Colin tell everyone how he and Hussein have struck a deal which will benefit mankind...but...in actuality only benefit Iraq because no one bothered to check if they actually lived up to their end of the bargain &#33;.

    You act as if the Libs / Dems have any credibility to tell anyone how to handle foreign policy when in actuality they&#39;ve been the " national embarressment ".

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    You&#39;re wasting your time Maryland. Tailgators does not argue from principle.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by jets5ever[/i]@Oct 27 2003, 04:24 PM
    [b] Tailgators does not argue from principle. [/b][/quote]
    Yes I do, I also judge by results.

    In this case Bush&#39;s record is dismal. By every quantitative measurement he&#39;s been a failure. Case Closed.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by jets5ever[/i]@Oct 27 2003, 04:24 PM
    [b] You&#39;re wasting your time Maryland. Tailgators does not argue from principle. [/b][/quote]
    Hear ya Bud &#33;

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by MARYLAND JET[/i]@Oct 27 2003, 03:39 PM
    [b] maybe we could&#39;ve found a way to diplomatically manuever Colin Powell to hit the dance floor with Saddam { remember M.Albright and Kim Il ? } and have Colin tell everyone how he and Hussein have struck a deal which will benefit mankind. [/b][/quote]
    No but Rumsfeld and Saddam were sure chummy back in the 80&#39;s.

    You&#39;re arguement is hypocritical.

    I&#39;m not surprised that you can&#39;t think of a Bush accomplishment either.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by tailgators[/i]@Oct 27 2003, 04:29 PM
    [b] Yes I do, I also judge by results.

    In this case Bush&#39;s record is dismal. By every quantitative measurement he&#39;s been a failure. Case Closed. [/b][/quote]
    You " judge by results ".....this is a joke right, you may wanna re-think that statement a little considering that we are in the beginning of a process that everyone involved states is gonna last a long time { worthwhile things tend to be that way } and there are no results yet to speak of.

    Of course, if you had your way there would most certainly be results, we&#39;d pull out of there disgraced and embarressed by two bit despots and radical extremist thugs who would like nothing better than to have us turn tail and leave, that way we could lose all credibility in the region { and the world } and the people who actually want to kill us could again be free to sit around and plan state sponsored ways to terrorize and kill as many americans as quickly and efficiantly as possible.

    " Bushes record is dismal "....." he&#39;s been a failure ".....If you wanna see dismal look at how your boy Clinton masterfully handled the North Koreans, that sure was brilliant, we&#39;re still paying for that train wreck of a foreign policy.

    Of course he made up for that one with Kosovo which met the criteria for a democratic war, It has to serve absolutely no valid interest of the U.S...and...the French must give their official okey - dokey.

    Thank God we&#39;ve got an administration that will take on terrorism head on instead of just giving alot of lip service and lobbing a couple of cruise missles, now if we can just get the liberals to shut up for a little while { because they have a proven track record of failure } and let us do what needs to be done we can hopefully end up with a better world.

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    Still can&#39;t think of one single Bush accomplishment huh?

    I bet you&#39;re delighted that 201 of our soldiers have been killed since Bush borrowed a flight suit amd declared the "Mission Accomplished".

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by tailgators+Oct 27 2003, 04:52 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (tailgators @ Oct 27 2003, 04:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--MARYLAND JET[/i]@Oct 27 2003, 03:39 PM
    [b] maybe we could&#39;ve found a way to diplomatically manuever Colin Powell to hit the dance floor with Saddam { remember M.Albright and Kim Il ? } and have Colin tell everyone how he and Hussein have struck a deal which will benefit mankind. [/b][/quote]
    No but Rumsfeld and Saddam were sure chummy back in the 80&#39;s.

    You&#39;re arguement is hypocritical.

    I&#39;m not surprised that you can&#39;t think of a Bush accomplishment either. [/b][/quote]
    Big deal.....at the time Saddam was taking on Iran and he was the lesser of two evils, I&#39;m pretty sure Rumsfeld and the rest of the Reagan administration remembered the fact that a few years earlier Iran actually took U.S hostages and threw so much anti U.S rhetoric around that it would have been a little difficult {and " hypocritical " } to back them against Saddam who at that time had not done anything to us.

    Times change, after the Iran - Iraq war Saddam used Chemical weapons, invaded his neighbor { and a U.S ally } and sought WMD&#39;s and we acted accordingly, what would you suggest we do, say, well since we backed you in the 80&#39;s we&#39;re forced to overlook all that you&#39;ve done since then ?.....is that your idea of foreign policy ?.

    As for the accomplishment&#39;s that you don&#39;t see you need look no further than his foreign policy, I consider what we&#39;re doing over in the middle east something that when it&#39;s finished will have effected real change over there provided we have the will to see it through.

    Off the top of my head, I&#39;ll list creating the department of homeland security, tax relief for "WORKING " americans, improving upon the 1996 welfare reform, and signing the bill outlawing partial birth abortions { I don&#39;t care where you stand on abortion in general......PBA&#39;s are a hideous procedure } as accomplishments, however, I&#39;m sure you won&#39;t.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by tailgators[/i]@Oct 27 2003, 05:14 PM
    [b] Still can&#39;t think of one single Bush accomplishment huh?

    I bet you&#39;re delighted that 201 of our soldiers have been killed since Bush borrowed a flight suit amd declared the "Mission Accomplished". [/b][/quote]
    No more so than the delight you&#39;ve taken in 3000 innocents killed on 9/11 because blowjob bill clinton was to busy getting head from monika rather than taking care of our enemies the eight years he was in "power" and let bin laden romp freely around the middle east&#33;

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by tailgators[/i]@Oct 27 2003, 05:14 PM
    [b] Still can&#39;t think of one single Bush accomplishment huh?

    I bet you&#39;re delighted that 201 of our soldiers have been killed since Bush borrowed a flight suit amd declared the "Mission Accomplished". [/b][/quote]
    What happened TG.....someone actually answered your question about accomplishments satisfactorily so you decided to move on ?.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by MARYLAND JET+Oct 28 2003, 03:55 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (MARYLAND JET @ Oct 28 2003, 03:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--tailgators[/i]@Oct 27 2003, 05:14 PM
    [b] Still can&#39;t think of one single Bush accomplishment huh?

    I bet you&#39;re delighted that 201 of our soldiers have been killed since Bush borrowed a flight suit amd declared the "Mission Accomplished". [/b][/quote]
    What happened TG.....someone actually answered your question about accomplishments satisfactorily so you decided to move on ?. [/b][/quote]
    I&#39;m still waiting for an answer.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by tailgators+Oct 28 2003, 03:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (tailgators @ Oct 28 2003, 03:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> [quote]Originally posted by -MARYLAND JET@Oct 28 2003, 03:55 PM
    [b] <!--QuoteBegin--tailgators[/i]@Oct 27 2003, 05:14 PM
    [b] Still can&#39;t think of one single Bush accomplishment huh?

    I bet you&#39;re delighted that 201 of our soldiers have been killed since Bush borrowed a flight suit amd declared the "Mission Accomplished". [/b][/quote]
    What happened TG.....someone actually answered your question about accomplishments satisfactorily so you decided to move on ?. [/b][/quote]
    I&#39;m still waiting for an answer. [/b][/quote]
    Please refer to the last paragraph of yesterdays 5:35 PM post.

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