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    [color=green]Hmmm...I don't see the Bush family, Dick Cheney or Haliburton listed. Just a coincidence that the countries giving us the hardest time about Iraq were bribed with oil.[/color]

    [u][b][SIZE=3]Iraq to Probe Alleged Saddam Oil Bribes [/SIZE][/b][/u]

    Tue Jan 27, 9:01 AM ET Reuters by Khaled Yacoub Oweis

    BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraq plans to investigate allegations that dozens of officials and businessmen worldwide illegally received oil in exchange for supporting former leader Saddam Hussein , officials said Tuesday.

    Their statements came after al-Mada, an independent Baghdad newspaper, published a list it said was [b]based on oil ministry documents showing 46 individuals, companies and organizations from inside and outside Iraq who were given millions of barrels of oil[/b].

    "I think the list is true. I will demand an investigation. These people must be prosecuted," Naseer Chaderji, a Governing Council member, told Reuters.

    [SIZE=3]The list includes members of Arab ruling families, religious organizations, politicians and political parties from Egypt, Jordan, Syria, the United Arab Emirates, Turkey, Sudan, [b]China[/b], Austria, [b]France [/b]and other countries.

    Organizations named include the Russian Orthodox Church and the [b]Russian Communist Party[/b], India's Congress Party and the [b]Palestinian Liberation Organization[/b]. [/SIZE]

    Assem Jihad, an oil ministry spokesman, said thousands of documents which were looted from the State Oil Marketing Organization after Baghdad fell to U.S. forces on April 9 may prove that Saddam used bribery to gain support.

    "Anyone involved in stealing Iraqi wealth will be prosecuted," Jihad said.

    Oil ministry officials say they have stopped selling oil to companies that may have acted as fronts to supporters of the toppled leader.

    Entifadh Qnbar, a spokesman for the Iraqi National Congress, a secular party headed by former exile Ahmad Chalabi, said even Arab oligarchs from oil producing countries received oil from Saddam.

    "These people took bribes. Sadly, the Iraqi people paid the price," Anbar said.

    [b][SIZE=3][u]Despite U.N. sanctions[/u], Iraq was allowed to sell oil from 1996-2003 under an agreement with the United Nations stipulating that proceeds from the oil sales be used to buy food, medicine and basic supplies.

    But bankers say some international companies selling goods to Iraq may have paid commissions to Iraqi officials that were deposited in Arab banks in exchange for winning contracts under the oil for food deal. [/SIZE][/b]

    [b]Oil traders say Iraq also smuggled oil through southern ports [u]not monitored by the United Nations[/u] [/b]and through a pipeline running to Syria.

    Damascus says the pipeline was only operating for testing purposes.

    "Saddam had no problem giving oil to whoever he wanted," said one Iraqi trader who did business with the former government.

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    How is any of this different from our country? Republicans and Democrats alike make underhanded deals all the time. The latest such deal is the awarding of the Iraqi oil contract to Halliburton.

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    If it's all about oil-

    Why are we still friendly and supportive of Israel?

    Why after the both Gulf wars, with all those troops on the ground and naval forces in place, we didn't just take over Saudi Arabia, the gulf states and Iraq whole?

    Why did "evil Halliburton" get many of the same contracts under the Clinton Administration? ( bonus points if you answer"because they're the only company with the personnel and equipment in place to do these jobs").


    We get the bulk of oil from South America, though supply dictates cost. But that whole "supply/demand " thing is something liberals rarely go near in college, so carry on in your foolishness.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Section109Row15[/i]@Jan 28 2004, 02:38 AM
    [b] How is any of this different from our country? Republicans and Democrats alike make underhanded deals all the time. The latest such deal is the awarding of the Iraqi oil contract to Halliburton. [/b][/quote]
    Another pathetic response from an unintelligent, American hating, liberal.


    My only surprise is france is yet to be found on one of those lists.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Come Back to NY[/i]@Jan 28 2004, 09:53 AM
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    My only surprise is france is yet to be found on one of those lists. [/b][/quote]
    Look again. It's right there.

    Chirac and his party were in deep with Sadaam's regime

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Bugg[/i]@Jan 28 2004, 08:25 AM
    [b] If it's all about oil-

    Why are we still friendly and supportive of Israel?

    Why after the both Gulf wars, with all those troops on the ground and naval forces in place, we didn't just take over Saudi Arabia, the gulf states and Iraq whole?

    Why did "evil Halliburton" get many of the same contracts under the Clinton Administration? ( bonus points if you answer"because they're the only company with the personnel and equipment in place to do these jobs").


    We get the bulk of oil from South America, though supply dictates cost. But that whole "supply/demand " thing is something liberals rarely go near in college, so carry on in your foolishness. [/b][/quote]
    we support Israel for two reasons

    1) its proximity to oil
    2) its the Holy Land.

    good Christians all over the nation don't want Jerusalem overrun by the Moors - its the crusades chapter 35.

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    RE: South American Oil

    [b]Bugg[/b] you don't want to talk about the economics of the sitaution cause it will get ugly ... its a proven fact that the worlds cheapest oil to extract is in Iraq. Also there is a TON of it. Im talking dollars to extract per barrell - domestic is around 10$ per... South America is like 4 or 5... and Iraq is less than a dollar a barrel. When the British tried this s**t back in the 50's - when they opened the Iraqi spigots the price of oil plummeted from a dollar fifty a barrell to literally PENNIES per barrel.

    yes Virginia there is a santa Claus

    yes Weeb its all about Oil

    [img]http://65.216.239.9/pics/politics/oil.gif[/img]

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bitonti[/i]@Jan 28 2004, 02:24 PM
    [b] we support Israel for two reasons

    1) its proximity to oil
    2) its the Holy Land.

    good Christians all over the nation don't want Jerusalem overrun by the Moors - its the crusades chapter 35.

    [/b][/quote]
    Just because you have an answer to everything, it doen't mean it's the correct answer. So, if your theory (Moveon.org's theory) were correct, stabbing Israel in the back would curry favor with us in the Muslim/OPEC nations.

    If we are protecting the Holy Land, why would we care who occupied it. If we favored Palestinian control over the land controlled by Israel, that would get us big brownie points in terms of oil producing countries.

    Sorry, bit, your position on this is very weak. It is all about oil -- but it's about how the French, Germans, Russians and the UN stab the US in the back for their share of cheap oil.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Spirit of Weeb[/i]@Jan 28 2004, 04:26 PM
    [b] but it's about how the French, Germans, Russians and the UN stab the US in the back for their share of cheap oil. [/b][/quote]
    then hide under the "cloak" of international diplomacy <_<

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