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    [url=http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.org/]What his "brethren" think about Kerry[/url]

    For a guy who can't get a sentence out without mentioning that he served in Vietnam, this is pretty rich stuff....

    [img]http://www.evangelicaloutpost.com/images/Kerry%20cover.jpg[/img]


    Here's some thoughts from one of his fellow servicemen:

    [quote][b]Kerry stopped the Vietnam Human Rights Act (HR2833) from coming to a vote in the Senate

    The Washington Times
    LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
    December 6, 2002

    John Kerry's war record

    As Sen. John Kerry, Massachusetts Democrat, considers a bid for the White House, Americans should know a few things about him that he might prefer go unmentioned and I don't mean his $75 haircuts.

    When Mr. Kerry pontificated at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial on Veterans Day, a group of veterans turned their backs on him and walked away. They remembered Mr. Kerry as the anti-war activist who testified before Congress during the war, accusing veterans of being war criminals. The dust jacket of Mr. Kerry's pro-Hanoi book, "The New Soldier," features a photograph of his ragged band of radicals mocking the U.S. Marine Corps Memorial, which depicts the flag-raising on Iwo Jima, with an upside-down American flag.

    Retired Gen. George S. Patton III charged that Mr. Kerry's actions as an anti-war activist had "given aid and comfort to the enemy," as had the actions of Ramsey Clark and Jane Fonda. Also, Mr. Kerry lied when he threw what he claimed were his war medals over the White House fence; he later admitted they weren't his. Now they are displayed on his office wall.

    Long after he changed sides in congressional hearings, Mr. Kerry lobbied for renewed trade relations with Hanoi. At the same time, his cousin C. Stewart Forbes, chief executive for Colliers International, assisted in brokering a $905 million deal to develop a deep-sea port at Vung Tau, Vietnam an odd coincidence.

    As noted in the Inside Politics column of Nov. 14 (Nation), historian Douglas Brinkley is writing Mr. Kerry's biography. Hopefully, he'll include the senator's latest ignominious feat: preventing the Vietnam Human Rights Act (HR2833) from coming to a vote in the Senate, claiming human rights would deteriorate as a result. His actions sent a clear signal to Hanoi that Congress cares little about the human rights for which so many Americans fought and died.

    The State Department ranked Vietnam among the 10 regimes worldwide least tolerant of religious freedom. Recently, 354 churches of the Montagnards, a Christian ethnic minority, were forcibly disbanded, and by mid-October, more than 50 Christian pastors and elders had been arrested in Dak Lak province alone. On Oct. 29, the secret police executed three Montagnards by lethal injection simply for protesting religious repression. The communists are conducting a pogrom against the Montagnards, forcing Christians to drink a mixture of goat's blood and alcohol and renounce Christianity.

    Thousands have been killed or imprisoned or have just "disappeared." The Montagnards lost one-half of their adult male population fighting for the United States, and without them, there might be thousands more American names on that somber black granite wall at the Vietnam memorial.

    As Mr. Kerry contemplates a run for the presidency, people must remember that he has fought harder for Hanoi as an anti-war activist and a senator than he did against the Vietnamese communists while serving in the Navy in Vietnam.


    MICHAEL BENGE
    Foreign Service officer and former Vietnam POW (1968 to 1973)
    Washington

    Spokesman - Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry
    Michael Benge can be reached at: [email]BENGEMIKE@aol.com[/email][/b][/quote]

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    shakin318...you gave this thread the wrong title. Instead of "The Unabridged John Kerry" you should've titled it "The Unabridged Personal Smears Against John Kerry."

    shakin...Prepare to call Senator Kerry Mr. President, because he's gonna win big time!!

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    god i hope they don't run kerry

    he's just begging for a good old fashioned GOP beatdown.

    nothing is easier to the republicans than beating a congressman from MASS. NOTHING. they have it down to an art. this whole Gay Marriage business really will help his cause in the bible belt.



    karl rove is licking his chops right now.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by tailgators[/i]@Feb 5 2004, 02:30 PM
    [b] shakin318...you gave this thread the wrong title. Instead of "The Unabridged John Kerry" you should've titled it "The Unabridged Personal Smears Against John Kerry."

    shakin...Prepare to call Senator Kerry Mr. President, because he's gonna win big time!! [/b][/quote]
    Funny...these are smears; fellow servicemen who served telling it like they see it...yet when a fat putz like michael moore-on with an agenda posts typical babbling Bush-hate rederic on his site, well that's Gospel to you 'taint it.

    Kerry will be president...of the NJ division for the Hienz Ketchup bottling plant in Patterson :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bitonti[/i]@Feb 5 2004, 03:16 PM
    [b] god i hope they don't run kerry

    he's just begging for a good old fashioned GOP beatdown.

    nothing is easier to the republicans than beating a congressman from MASS. NOTHING. they have it down to an art. this whole Gay Marriage business really will help his cause in the bible belt.



    karl rove is licking his chops right now. [/b][/quote]


    bit...Read this article carefully. In it Kerry delcares his opposition to so-called gay marriages. Also, his campaign indicates that they'll be much tougher in responding to the GOP smears.

    BTW...When Kerry wind the nomination I expect you to get out there and work for his election.

    POLITICAL MEMO
    [b]G.O.P. Revives Line of Attack Against Kerry[/b]
    By ROBIN TONER

    Published: February 5, 2004

    WASHINGTON, Feb. 4 Republicans and their allies have begun laying the groundwork for a familiar line of attack against Senator John Kerry: that he is "out of sync" with most voters, "culturally out of step with the rest of America," a man who votes with "the extreme elements of his party," as Ed Gillespie, the Republican chairman, has put it in recent days.

    In short, that he is a Massachusetts liberal. It is a charge that ultimately proved devastating to Michael S. Dukakis, the Democrats' presidential nominee in 1988, who ended the campaign battered by the Republicans as "a card-carrying member of the A.C.L.U.," a product of the "Harvard boutique" who coddled criminals and was too much of a legalistic liberal to require school children to say the pledge of allegiance.

    Some of the so-called wedge issues that polarized voters and resonated back then, when President Bush's father was waging the attack, may not have the same power today, but others have risen in their place.

    This year, the state's liberal image is being highlighted anew by its role in the growing debate over gay marriage.

    The state's highest court on Wednesday ruled that people of the same sex must have the right to marry not just to enter into civil unions if the state is to comply with its previous rulings.

    Conservative leaders said the court decision only underscored the need for a constitutional amendment limiting marriage to heterosexual couples. Mr. Bush appears increasingly likely to embrace such an amendment. Mr. Kerry says he supports civil unions, not same-sex marriages, but has opposed a constitutional amendment outlawing them.

    "This could be a very defining difference between the candidates," said Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, a conservative group.

    In a statement on Wednesday night, Mr. Kerry clearly sought a middle ground. He said he believed in protecting the "fundamental rights of gay and lesbian couples, from inheritance to health benefits," but added that he believed the answer was civil unions.

    "I oppose gay marriage and disagree with the Massachusetts court's decision," he said.

    The Kerry campaign, which includes several veterans of the Dukakis campaign, says it will not make the mistakes of 1988, when Mr. Dukakis was widely seen as too passive in the face of the attacks. "We welcome a debate with the likes of Ed Gillespie, Karl Rove and this White House about who's out of sync with Main Street America," said David Wade, a Kerry spokesman.

    "Their tired old G.O.P. attack dog just won't hunt," Mr. Wade said, adding that Republicans would be running against "a Democrat who fought for his country in war, put criminals behind bars as a prosecutor, stood up for balanced budgets in the Senate," and "kept faith with America's veterans."

    Another Kerry adviser was more blunt. "This is not the Dukakis campaign," the adviser said. "We're not going to take it. And if they're going to come at us with stuff, whatever that stuff may be, if it goes to a place where the '88 campaign did, then everything is on the table. Everything."

    Republicans assert Mr. Kerry's problem is his own voting record, and argue that it is very fair game. Mr. Gillespie, in a recent speech, asserted that Mr. Kerry's voting record was, by some measures, even more liberal than the senior senator from Massachusetts, Senator Edward M. Kennedy, another icon of liberalism.

    Ralph Reed, chairman of the Bush-Cheney campaign in the Southeast, said on Wednesday, "More important than labels is the fact that he has a voting record over 20 years in the U.S. Senate that is out of the mainstream, simply out of step with where the American people are, by consistently voting to weaken national defense, undercut our intelligence capability and massively raise taxes."

    Mr. Kerry and his allies dismiss that characterization of his record, noting, for example, that he was one of the first Democrats to sign onto the Gramm-Rudman-Hollings deficit reduction act. Representative Barney Frank, Democrat of Massachusetts, argued that Mr. Kerry's background as a decorated veteran and a tough prosecutor also come into play.

    "It is hard to demonize as an irresponsible leftist a man who has locked up criminals and shot communists," Mr. Frank said. "That's John Kerry's record. Kerry's cast a couple specific votes that are unpopular, but so has Bush. In general, I like our ground better."

    Still, Republicans do not seem cowed by Mr. Kerry, the front-runner for the Democratic nomination, who left the campaign trail on Wednesday after winning five of seven nominating contests the previous day, and returned to Boston for what he said would be an "administrative day."

    In his speeches, Mr. Gillespie has highlighted several national security and economic votes, but also some of the social issues that have proved so divisive in the past. He noted that Mr. Kerry voted against the ban on a procedure used in second and third trimester of pregnancy, one critics call partial-birth abortion. That legislation was signed into law by Mr. Bush last fall.

    Mr. Gillespie also noted that Mr. Kerry voted against the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act, barring federal recognition of same-sex marriages, a measure that was signed into law by President Bill Clinton.

    Mr. Kerry said at the time that while he opposed same-sex marriage, he was voting against the bill because "I believe that this debate is fundamentally ugly, and it is fundamentally political, and it is fundamentally flawed.

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    [quote][b]Funny...these are smears; fellow servicemen who served telling it like they see it...yet when a fat putz like michael moore-on with an agenda posts typical babbling Bush-hate rederic on his site, well that's Gospel to you 'taint it.
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    So your saying you stand by whatever a fellow seriveman says about someone? Cause there are a lot of quotes from servicemen who served with Bush that you contend.

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    tail maybe intellectual voters will know the difference

    all most people will know is that Kerry's from the state that gays get married in.

    he's unelectable for SO MANY reasons

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bitonti[/i]@Feb 5 2004, 04:14 PM
    [b] tail maybe intellectual voters will know the difference

    all most people will know is that Kerry's from the state that gays get married in.

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    Then it's up to you to help inform them.

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    if it wasn't for the supreme court appointments i'd be tempted to throw away my vote in this election...

    Kerry: Yale grad billionare Washington Insider
    Bush: Yale grad billionare Washington Insider

    its all very disheartening.

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