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Thread: Nader Back!!!! Democrats done

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    Nader announcing he will run again. This sinks Dems. Race is so close this will do the same thing it did in 2000. Just like Perots votes were 75% Republicans and hurt Bush Sr. and Dole, Naders mostly Democrat supporters will hurt Kerry or Edwards........

    I am surprised the Dems couldnt contain him,,,serious strategy flaw...unless hillary is payin him to run :lol:

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    Well, for starters, Nader did not say he is running. What he said is that he'll announce his plans on [i]Meet the Press[/i] on Sunday. He has also said that he will not run as a candidate of the Green Party. He has not ruled out running as an independent.

    Whatever he does, I don't think left-edge Democrats will fall for him this time. They've seen the way Gee Dubya has exported jobs and raped the environment at every turn. They no longer believe that, as Nader said four years ago, "There's not a dime's worth of difference between the parties."

    There was also a sense among Democrats last time that there was no way Gore could lose. The left thought that they could send a message to the larger party and still have a president who agreed with them on most issues. Obviously that was a huge mistake. They won't make it again.

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    If he does choose to run, regardless of party affiliation , this will only hurt the Dems canidate.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Bob the Jets Fan™[/i]@Feb 20 2004, 06:35 PM
    [b] Well, for starters, Nader did not say he is running. What he said is that he'll announce his plans on [i]Meet the Press[/i] on Sunday. He has also said that he will not run as a candidate of the Green Party. He has not ruled out running as an independent.

    Whatever he does, I don't think left-edge Democrats will fall for him this time. They've seen the way Gee Dubya has exported jobs and raped the environment at every turn. They no longer believe that, as Nader said four years ago, "There's not a dime's worth of difference between the parties."

    There was also a sense among Democrats last time that there was no way Gore could lose. The left thought that they could send a message to the larger party and still have a president who agreed with them on most issues. Obviously that was a huge mistake. They won't make it again. [/b][/quote]
    u r delusional....
    or a bitter democrat...

    no matter what party nader runs on it will a pure drain on dems,,no republicans will switch over, just dems....

    a few thousand could again swing vote,,another reason terry mcauliifeis a buffoon,,,he has had 4 years to get nader in the boat nad he failed AGAIN....

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    Nader had nothing to do with Dems failure to win in 2000!!!

    Many who voted for Nader were insulted by the audacity of both parties.

    Jew Lieberman as your VP - really!!!

    George W. Bush is a better candidate then Joh McCain - Really!!!

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by outsider[/i]@Feb 22 2004, 10:25 AM
    [b]Jew Lieberman as your VP - really!!!

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    Nice................................................................................................

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by outsider[/i]@Feb 22 2004, 11:25 AM
    [b] Jew Lieberman as your VP - really!!!

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    Outsider, That's uncalled for.

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    He's in as an Independent, which means no "third party message", no big machine of media darlings behind him. At this point, he's as marginal as Harry Brown, Lyndon LaRouche, and whomever the Socialist Workers Party puts out there -- all of whom technically got more votes in Florida 2000 than the Bush-Gore differential.

    I think it's a silly move, but thanks to the old electoral college and the big "disillusionment of disillusionment" fallout from not even getting a measly 5% nationwide with all the momentum from the Gore-Bush frustration, I don't see this making the difference in any state. In fact, he may not be on the ballot by November in most places.

    And I say all this as a guy who voted for Nader in 2000 (in New York, where it made zero difference, but I'd say the same if I had cast the vote in Florida). I don't condemn him for running, nor do I think it's an ego thing as much as a stubbornness/principle thing much like his populist right-wing counterpart Pat Buchanon.

    But I really don't think this will make any more difference than the "drain" on Republicans by the Reform, U.S. Constitution, or LaRouche Lovers parties on the ticket in most states. Even registered Greens in 2000 pussed out on voting for Nader due to Bush Fear -- now after 4 years of the guy, you think anyone other than the most hardcore fanatics of the far left is going to push that lever again??

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    It all depends on how effective he is as a campaigner and how Kerry handles the nomination.

    Too soon to tell at this point, but a definite blow to Kerry.

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    silly to think it wont effect Dems...florida decided by 500 votes,,,Nader had 97,000 in florida....even if he gets 20,000 this time it could be the difference as 50% Nader voters were Dems, 20% Republicans and 30% said they wouldnt have voted if Nader wasnt a candidate...

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