anyone who says the jets shouldn't do this is crazy...if anyone the raiders shouldn't do this...we would get the number 2 pick which we could possibly trade down again and gain another pick and pick up taylor or we could stay and grab gallery...i would do this in a heartbeat...
[quote][i]Originally posted by yourworstmemory[/i]@Apr 3 2004, 12:23 PM
[b] anyone who says the jets shouldn't do this is crazy...if anyone the raiders shouldn't do this...we would get the number 2 pick which we could possibly trade down again and gain another pick and pick up taylor or we could stay and grab gallery...i would do this in a heartbeat... [/b][/quote]
Word on Gallery is he is a finesse blocker...From what I've seen he is definitely not Johnathan Ogden, or Orlando Pace- but he can pass protect. As a former TE he is extremely athletic--I have a feeling he will be alright...yet there is always the Tony Mandarich factor.
[quote][i]Originally posted by JonEJet[/i]@Apr 3 2004, 10:54 AM
[b] I don't want the #2
Too much $$$$$$ to give a player!!!
We spent alot last year on DRob....can't afford a similar deal!! [/b][/quote]
excellent point. If we start to amass too many draft picks between #1-5, in 3 years when the contracts are up, we will be right back in the same position as we will be next year with Abe, Ellis, & Penny.
we could have as many as 3 trade downs from there:
- Giants would love to come down especially if Eli is availabe
- Then always the possibility to go way down in the draft again
- Larry Fitz, Gallery, Eli will draw many calls if we're at #2 for a trade
no need to stay put, we can move down pick up the #2 picks and still get some1 nice!
[quote][i]Originally posted by Boozer76[/i]@Apr 3 2004, 11:16 AM
[b] McKenzie is worth a 2nd round pick. Jordan is a 3rd at best. So in essence, this trade would be McKenzie for OAK's 2nd rounder and our 1st and Jordan for their 1st rounder, #2 overall. There isn't a snowball chance in hell of this happening. Maybe Jordan, McKenzie and our #12 for their 1st rounder alone. [/b][/quote]
Boozer...excellent breakdown of the deal. That is exactly what it comes down to.
I first read this and said; do it immediately. I am surprised so many fans think it is a bad deal and then I realized many of these fans didn't want to give Kareem up for the #2 overall (as ridiculous as that sounds). The Jets would take Gallery and Fabini would move to his natural RT. The line would improve IMMEDIATELY. And we'd replenish the 2nd rounder. We would not be losing all that much but rather improving in a main area.
Simply Amazing..A couple of "Fans" Call in and Jet Fandom talk
like it's really true! On a side note I hear the Easter Bunny has
a Deal with the League office that anyone that spots him his
favorite Team gets a extra number 1 pick!! :lol:
[quote][i]Originally posted by 4HCrew[/i]@Apr 3 2004, 10:39 AM
[b] Last night on WFAN a couple of callers called in with a rumors they heard with the Raiders..the trade talk was..
Jets give up Jordan,Mckenzie and the #12 for the Raiders 1st and 2nd round picks....
I remember seeing threads regarding trade talks with the Raiders but not sure if I saw this one before..
I do not have a link of anything this was just discussions on sports radio. Sorry if already posted. [/b][/quote]
If we got the Raides first pick it would be a great deal. There is no way the Raiders give us bith picks IMHO.
[quote][i]Originally posted by huskeralk[/i]@Apr 3 2004, 02:03 PM
[b] Isn't McKenzie a RFA? If so, that shoots the rumor all to hell right out the gate. [/b][/quote]
Why is that? We can sign and trade him or at least trade our rights to him.
I dont think this will happen, but since there are reputable posters here that are even giving this some thought, I'll share my thoughts (for whatever they are worth.
[I]you never give up proven talent for potential....
With that said, the only way the JETS do this is if they know they cant resign McKenzie and Fabini is willing to move to RT.
With that said, we hope the Chargers stay put and take someone not named Gallery or Manning. We trade down with the Gmen, acquiring and additional #2 then take Gallery at #4. Hence, O-line will be set:
Gallery, Moore, Mawae, Fuata, Fabini
With the two 2nd rounders we take:
DB-Ahmad Carroll or Sean Jones
WR- Lee Evans or Deverey Henderson(I want a super unit)
i dont like the trade - why? because i break it down this way
we're giving up mckensie AND our #1 for essentially Gallery (Gallery may be an upgrade, but now we can't draft the CB/S/LB we needed in the first
then we're giving up Lamont for a #2 - okay, this seems in our advantage - kind of.. say we draft the CB/LB/S that we couldn't have in the first round.. BUT now we he have a hole at backup RB we need to address..
i'd rather try and sign mckensie to a long term deal and trade down our 1 and go defense
why do you guys think McKensie visited OAK? they never had the intention of trading their 2 overall and signing him as an RFA - not to toot my own horn but made this post several weeks ago predicting a draft day trade between these teams - the JETS need a LEFT tackle - Fabini and MacKensie are two RIGHT tackles. Terry has been chewing on the last game of the season when the OL gave up 4 sacks - Chad was getting KILLED last year - Gallery would protect CHad's blind side for YEARS and is the best OL prospect to come out since Pace.