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    A smashing success

    South Carolina’s Robinson a cornerback who runs like the wind —*and doesn’t run from contact


    By Mike Wilkening
    April 3, 2004

    South Carolina CB
    Dunta Robinson

    Generalizations are tricky things and sometimes flat-out wrong, but the one about cornerbacks not liking contact is, well, generally true.

    Then there’s South Carolina’s Dunta Robinson, who genuinely loves to hit people. It figures that he played safety his first two collegiate seasons.

    “When he came onto our field,” former Gamecocks DB coach John Gutekunst recently recalled, “the first thing you noticed was how aggressive he was. He played like a linebacker.”

    He also ran like a wide receiver. It’s this package of aggressiveness and speed that makes Robinson one of the top CB prospects in the NFL draft. The 5-foot-10 5/8, 186-pound Robinson — who ran a 4.34 40-yard dash at February’s NFL Scouting Combine — is a strong candidate to be selected in the first half of the first round. In his latest mock draft, PFW draft analyst Nolan Nawrocki has the Jets taking Robinson with the No. 12 pick.

    Robinson became a cornerback only after collegiate teammates Sheldon Brown, André Goodman and Kevin House moved on to the NFL after the 2001 season. But before they left, Brown and Goodman made a suggestion to Gutekunst: Try Robinson, then a rover in a 3-3-5 defensive scheme, at cornerback.

    “So I’ve got to thank them guys,” Robinson said, “because without them going to talk to him, I probably still would have been playing safety.”

    Safety had been Robinson’s position since high school, where he was a standout at Clarke Central in Athens, Ga., home of the University of Georgia. But encouraged by his parents to leave home to attend college, Robinson picked South Carolina.

    In 2000 and ‘01, Robinson was a part-time player at safety. But then came the position change, perhaps spurred on by the intuition of Brown, now a starter for the Eagles, and Goodman, now with the Lions. Gutekunst had a hunch, too, and shared it with head coach Lou Holtz.*

    “I remember Coach Holtz asking who I thought could be a corner, and I said, ‘Dunta Robinson,’*” said Gutekunst, now the co-defensive coordinator at North Carolina. “I just liked his hips, his speed and his aggressiveness. Obviously it was a good guess.”

    Robinson immediately took to his new position, garnering Most Outstanding Defensive Back honors in spring ball.

    He earned confidence as the ’02 season went on, with a solid performance vs. highly regarded Georgia WR Fred Gibson in the third game of particular importance to his development.

    “And that’s when I realized, ‘Hey, I could play this position,’ ” Robinson said. “That’s how I really learned I could play the CB spot and was not just an average corner.”

    Robinson started 12 games in ’02, leading the team with 10 passes broken up and intercepting four passes. But along the way he had developed a propensity to take a few too many chances, something he vowed to correct.*****

    “As a junior, I was trying to get recognition, so I was trying to make all of the plays instead of just letting it happen,” Robinson said. “So I think that was the biggest thing I had to do, realize that I’ve got teammates that can make plays too, (so I) don’t have to do everything. That was the thing I had to really control from my junior year to my senior year.”

    In his final season, Robinson earned team MVP honors for the Gamecocks, registering 50 tackles and one interception. He also had earned the attention of NFL scouts.

    They had to be pleased with what they saw at the Combine, when Robinson turned heads with his performance in the 40-yard dash. His 4.34 40 was the second fastest among cornerbacks, while his 3.75 mark in the 20-yard shuttle was the best among his position group.

    While other cornerbacks — notably USC’s Will Poole — declined to work out in Indianapolis, Robinson relished the chance at showing off his speed.

    That Robinson decided to work out earned respect from Panthers director of college scouting Tony Softli, who said Robinson’s speed wasn’t surprising “because you can see it on film."

    “I felt that whether it was in Indianapolis or in Columbia, S.C., I was going to run fast regardless,” Robinson said. “I heard a lot of people say it was a slow surface, but I feel that if you can run, you can run, no matter where you run. A lot of guys didn’t run at the Combine and ran at their pro days and still didn’t run fast.”

    Robinson, Virginia Tech’s DeAngelo Hall and Ohio State’s Chris Gamble are acknowledged to be the top three cornerbacks in the draft. Hall will gain favor with teams looking for a return specialist and a cornerback, while the 6-foot-1 1/4 Gamble’s size makes him intriguing.

    The knocks on Robinson are his propensity to gamble and his lack of size. Gutekunst believes Robinson can pack 190 pounds on his frame and still be effective.

    But odds are Robinson will hear his name called relatively early in the first round, with the “solid football instincts” that Softli likes and the speed that “shrinks the field,” as Gutekunst calls it.

    It also helps that he doesn’t shrink from contact.*

    “I don’t think you’ll find a corner that’s as good a tackler as me,” Robinson said. “I like to come up and hit. In college football, you don’t see a lot of corners that like to come up and force the run and make big hits. Besides covering, you have to be able to hit, and a lot of corners don’t do that. I don’t see a lot of corners that do that. I think I’m a complete player.”

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by pope[/i]@Apr 3 2004, 06:34 PM
    [b] A smashing success

    South Carolina’s Robinson a cornerback who runs like the wind —*and doesn’t run from contact


    By Mike Wilkening
    April 3, 2004

    South Carolina CB
    Dunta Robinson

    Generalizations are tricky things and sometimes flat-out wrong, but the one about cornerbacks not liking contact is, well, generally true.

    Then there’s South Carolina’s Dunta Robinson, who genuinely loves to hit people. It figures that he played safety his first two collegiate seasons.

    “When he came onto our field,” former Gamecocks DB coach John Gutekunst recently recalled, “the first thing you noticed was how aggressive he was. He played like a linebacker.”

    He also ran like a wide receiver. It’s this package of aggressiveness and speed that makes Robinson one of the top CB prospects in the NFL draft. The 5-foot-10 5/8, 186-pound Robinson — who ran a 4.34 40-yard dash at February’s NFL Scouting Combine — is a strong candidate to be selected in the first half of the first round. In his latest mock draft, PFW draft analyst Nolan Nawrocki has the Jets taking Robinson with the No. 12 pick.

    Robinson became a cornerback only after collegiate teammates Sheldon Brown, André Goodman and Kevin House moved on to the NFL after the 2001 season. But before they left, Brown and Goodman made a suggestion to Gutekunst: Try Robinson, then a rover in a 3-3-5 defensive scheme, at cornerback.

    “So I’ve got to thank them guys,” Robinson said, “because without them going to talk to him, I probably still would have been playing safety.”

    Safety had been Robinson’s position since high school, where he was a standout at Clarke Central in Athens, Ga., home of the University of Georgia. But encouraged by his parents to leave home to attend college, Robinson picked South Carolina.

    In 2000 and ‘01, Robinson was a part-time player at safety. But then came the position change, perhaps spurred on by the intuition of Brown, now a starter for the Eagles, and Goodman, now with the Lions. Gutekunst had a hunch, too, and shared it with head coach Lou Holtz.*

    “I remember Coach Holtz asking who I thought could be a corner, and I said, ‘Dunta Robinson,’*” said Gutekunst, now the co-defensive coordinator at North Carolina. “I just liked his hips, his speed and his aggressiveness. Obviously it was a good guess.”

    Robinson immediately took to his new position, garnering Most Outstanding Defensive Back honors in spring ball.

    He earned confidence as the ’02 season went on, with a solid performance vs. highly regarded Georgia WR Fred Gibson in the third game of particular importance to his development.

    “And that’s when I realized, ‘Hey, I could play this position,’ ” Robinson said. “That’s how I really learned I could play the CB spot and was not just an average corner.”

    Robinson started 12 games in ’02, leading the team with 10 passes broken up and intercepting four passes. But along the way he had developed a propensity to take a few too many chances, something he vowed to correct.*****

    “As a junior, I was trying to get recognition, so I was trying to make all of the plays instead of just letting it happen,” Robinson said. “So I think that was the biggest thing I had to do, realize that I’ve got teammates that can make plays too, (so I) don’t have to do everything. That was the thing I had to really control from my junior year to my senior year.”

    In his final season, Robinson earned team MVP honors for the Gamecocks, registering 50 tackles and one interception. He also had earned the attention of NFL scouts.

    They had to be pleased with what they saw at the Combine, when Robinson turned heads with his performance in the 40-yard dash. His 4.34 40 was the second fastest among cornerbacks, while his 3.75 mark in the 20-yard shuttle was the best among his position group.

    While other cornerbacks — notably USC’s Will Poole — declined to work out in Indianapolis, Robinson relished the chance at showing off his speed.

    That Robinson decided to work out earned respect from Panthers director of college scouting Tony Softli, who said Robinson’s speed wasn’t surprising “because you can see it on film."

    “I felt that whether it was in Indianapolis or in Columbia, S.C., I was going to run fast regardless,” Robinson said. “I heard a lot of people say it was a slow surface, but I feel that if you can run, you can run, no matter where you run. A lot of guys didn’t run at the Combine and ran at their pro days and still didn’t run fast.”

    Robinson, Virginia Tech’s DeAngelo Hall and Ohio State’s Chris Gamble are acknowledged to be the top three cornerbacks in the draft. Hall will gain favor with teams looking for a return specialist and a cornerback, while the 6-foot-1 1/4 Gamble’s size makes him intriguing.

    The knocks on Robinson are his propensity to gamble and his lack of size. Gutekunst believes Robinson can pack 190 pounds on his frame and still be effective.

    But odds are Robinson will hear his name called relatively early in the first round, with the “solid football instincts” that Softli likes and the speed that “shrinks the field,” as Gutekunst calls it.

    It also helps that he doesn’t shrink from contact.*

    “I don’t think you’ll find a corner that’s as good a tackler as me,” Robinson said. “I like to come up and hit. In college football, you don’t see a lot of corners that like to come up and force the run and make big hits. Besides covering, you have to be able to hit, and a lot of corners don’t do that. I don’t see a lot of corners that do that. I think I’m a complete player.” [/b][/quote]
    I think he'd be a great pick, the JETS definately need more playmakers in the back seven of that defense.

    The JETS should draft D.J. Williams, Vilma, Hall, or Robinson to improve that back seven.

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    I just don't think Hall is going to be around when we pick.

    I'd be happy with either of those 4 guys you mentioned Jets-D.

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    Yeh it looks like Hall is going to Houston, Cleveland, Atlanta, or Pittsburgh.

    But Dunta seems like a complete Corner, I have looked this guy up alot, and all I hear are good things.

    Dunta and Hall seem to be very similar.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by JetsD-Mastermind[/i]@Apr 3 2004, 08:00 PM
    [b] Yeh it looks like Hall is going to Houston, Cleveland, Atlanta, or Pittsburgh.

    But Dunta seems like a complete Corner, I have looked this guy up alot, and all I hear are good things.

    Dunta and Hall seem to be very similar. [/b][/quote]
    Not everything you hear is good.



    He sucked at USC


    Pope.......find the Clemson vs Carolina game last year.


    Watch it...and watch Dunta get ***** slapped all day by Hamilton and Youngblood :lol:

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    id be good with hall, another d-rob or vilma... but id rather trade down and pick up someone like poole and stock up depth and people who have a chance to break out (like a LB in 2nd or 3rd rounds)...

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    I know what your talking about JonEjet, he got lit up. But I guess this doesnt matter because he had a good combine. Im not big on this guy.

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    He sounds like a guy worth taking at # 12 but he is not as fast as Hall but still has other good qualities.

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    I tell you with Henderson I think trading down and getting Gamble might not be a bad idea

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    Isn't the young corner that Henderson will grooming [b]David Barret[/b]? If not then why did we give him such a generous contract. We we will be giving big money to another corner now if we draft dunta. I understand we need depth, but can't we wait until the third round, and get [b]Kewain Ratlif[/b]? I would really like to see a playmaker like Mike or Reggie Williams, who ever falls to us. Fourth Round we can address other defensive needs with [b]Kendyl Pope [/b]at LB and [b]Jason Shivers [/b]at S

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    Dunta is average at best. He is no DeAngello Hall.


    The Jets should trade down and address the O line if Hall is not there at 12 or draft one of the Williams'

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by NYJetsro71[/i]@Apr 4 2004, 12:40 AM
    [b] i like to do men. [/b][/quote]
    wow, too much info NYJetsro71. way too much........ :blink:

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    I love Dunta Robinson...he has the potential to be a star. He is a bit of a reach at 12, but if the Jets trade down and hes available....they have to take him, with Henderson grooming him hes going to be a star.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by FSUJetfan[/i]@Apr 4 2004, 12:26 AM
    [b] Isn't the young corner that Henderson will grooming [b]David Barret[/b]? If not then why did we give him such a generous contract. We we will be giving big money to another corner now if we draft dunta. I understand we need depth, but can't we wait until the third round, and get [b]Kewain Ratlif[/b]? I would really like to see a playmaker like Mike or Reggie Williams, who ever falls to us. Fourth Round we can address other defensive needs with [b]Kendyl Pope [/b]at LB and [b]Jason Shivers [/b]at S [/b][/quote]
    schivers wont be there in the 4th, what is iy abiut his game that will keep him out of the first day?

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    Oh no . . . not another 5'8" corner for the Jets. I'll pass. :(

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    :ph34r: my first choice is D-Hall but if we got Dunat Robinson I'm fine with that.

    JonEJet......you said Dunta is terrible??? Have u seen him play???
    I went to the Univ of Florida and I attend many Gator games...last year I was at the USC/Florida game in Columbia SC and one of the reasons why the Gamecocks ALMOST beat us was because of Robinson.....the kid is a bona fide 1st round pick.....I prefer hall because his return ability is the difference maker to me...if the Jets get Robinson...I'd live with it.

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    :ph34r: the Jets current defensive backfield is decent......we have a finally healthy Jon McGraw...a damn good cover man in donnie Abe...a solid safety in Tongue and also a solid corner in Barrett.....if u have not realized it...barrett and tongue are proven DB's.....sorry that u never heard of them!!!!

    In the first round we still have to take a DB with the caliber of a D-Hall or Robinson.......this defense will be a swarming defense...we will actaully blitz and look at our linebacking corp compared to the slow 2003 squad. You are looking at a much more aggressive defensive scheme and I feel Henderson will bring life to this defense....the key in my opinion though will be Doug Graber...he is the real deal and his fortay is defensive backs (as with henderson) Lets be honest.....between Henderson/Herm and Graber.....you gotta feel that our defensive backfield has coaches that knows a little about DB;s ;)

    watch this Jets team.....the defensive backfield will be fine.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by jetsfreak[/i]@Apr 4 2004, 12:34 PM
    [b] :ph34r: my first choice is D-Hall but if we got Dunat Robinson I'm fine with that.

    JonEJet......you said Dunta is terrible??? Have u seen him play???
    I went to the Univ of Florida and I attend many Gator games...last year I was at the USC/Florida game in Columbia SC and one of the reasons why the Gamecocks ALMOST beat us was because of Robinson.....the kid is a bona fide 1st round pick.....I prefer hall because his return ability is the difference maker to me...if the Jets get Robinson...I'd live with it. [/b][/quote]
    So your basis of drafting a guy in the first round is your take on the guy after watching him play against one team. Possibly a few times...but against one team.

    I on the other hand am force fed Gamecock football everyday. He was the MVP of a horrendous team last year.....HORRENDOUS!!


    Ever think the Gators have sucked since Spurrier left??

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    :ph34r: I saw him play against my gators because I was at the game.....but I have never seem D-Hall play in person but I know he's a fine DB.....with that said...I have seem much more of D-Robinson than the game I attended...USC is in the SEC and I am quite familiar with the players....It would be assanine to base drafting a player on seeing him play one game....my preference is dante hall and then D-robinson.....I don't seem to be the only person that feel he has talent and warrants a 1st round pick.

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    :ph34r: I attrended UF when Galen Hall was our coach........last year my gators beat Georgia (again) we were also the only team to beat LSU and we beat arkansas....all top ten ranked teams....we also have a stellar recruiting class....the Gators did not suck......sorry you feel that Dunta Robinson is so bad...I guess u are in the minority.

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