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    so do we now primarily leave jon abe at end..i think we should

    3/ 4

    ellis evans abe
    barton vilma cowart hobson

    4/ 3
    ellis/evans/d-rob. abe
    barton vilma hobson

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    he should still be in the mix at LB occassionally

    we need to mix it up alot and take advantage of the personnel we have

    I think we will see 3-4 lbs of Abe, Barton, Cowart, Hobson, Vilma all mixed in sporadically

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    What benefit do you guys see with the 3-4? I would think with the DL "ability" you would want to keep them on the field...JMO

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by JETFAN1[/i]@Apr 26 2004, 12:36 PM
    [b] What benefit do you guys see with the 3-4? I would think with the DL "ability" you would want to keep them on the field...JMO [/b][/quote]
    I think they should mix it up alot and give different looks

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    :ph34r: we are gonna mix it up quite a bit...this defense has the potential to be friggin solid.

    Bring on mini camp!!!

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Mean Bro Green+Apr 26 2004, 12:37 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (Mean Bro Green @ Apr 26 2004, 12:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--JETFAN1[/i]@Apr 26 2004, 12:36 PM
    [b] What benefit do you guys see with the 3-4? I would think with the DL "ability" you would want to keep them on the field...JMO [/b][/quote]
    I think they should mix it up alot and give different looks [/b][/quote]
    Yeah that seems like the best option..

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    When does mini-camp begin?

    when is training camp?

    LL

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bman[/i]@Apr 26 2004, 12:29 PM
    [b] so do we now primarily leave jon abe at end..i think we should

    3/ 4

    ellis evans abe
    barton vilma cowart hobson

    4/ 3
    ellis/evans/d-rob. abe
    barton vilma hobson [/b][/quote]
    There will be some different looks. To spell Barton sometimes Cowart may play some WLB (he knows the position and Vilma the middle. Vilma may play some WLB b/c of his quickness. The 4-3, I think we know what the line up will be. In nickel situations, we&#39;ll probably see some Vilma in there as well b/c of his speed.

    Still, in our basic 4-3 set to start the game, I don&#39;t see him starting right away unless Cowart absolutely can&#39;t play the middle, which I don&#39;t see happening.

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    The 3-4 needs a stout NT in the middle. Evans is not suited for that. It would most likely be Fergesson or possible D-rob.

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    Jon Abe as LT
    DRob as Sapp
    Vilma as Ray Lewis
    Ellis as Reg White
    B Thomas as Situational Bruce Smith

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Xmarco[/i]@Apr 26 2004, 01:24 PM
    [b] Jon Abe as LT
    DRob as Sapp
    Vilma as Ray Lewis
    Ellis as Reg White
    B Thomas as Situational Bruce Smith [/b][/quote]
    And we wonder why the Pats fans make fun of us. :lol:

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    There are several people around here who simply dont know what they are talking about. My apologies to the others.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Baddniss[/i]@Apr 27 2004, 04:24 AM
    [b] There are several people around here who simply dont know what they are talking about. My apologies to the others. [/b][/quote]
    You have it backwards...there are several that do know. Apologies to the others for having common sense injected into their daily life. LOL.

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    honestly, may depend on the development of d-rob, and possibly B.T. (which wont happen), Buit if DEwayne can come out and be productive when herm lets him see the field, he may find his way on the field alot more often

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    IMO i think the 3-4 is VERY POSSIBLE&#33;

    Ellis at LE
    Ferguson and D-Rob at NT
    Evans at RE

    LOLB - Abraham
    ROLB - Vilma
    ILB - Hobson Eric Barton can Play all positions
    ILB - Cowart


    Odd man out is bryan thomas... he can platoon if we switch back and forth to a 4-3.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Xmarco[/i]@Apr 26 2004, 01:24 PM
    [b] Jon Abe as LT
    DRob as Sapp
    Vilma as Ray Lewis
    Ellis as Reg White
    B Thomas as Situational Bruce Smith [/b][/quote]
    You missed a few

    Evans as Ted Washington
    D Strait as Charles Woodson
    Mc Graw as John Lynch (in his prime)
    R Tongue as Ronnie Lott
    Ray Mickens as Champ Bailey

    SMoss as RMoss
    Jmac as Jerry Rice
    Becht as TGonzales
    Pennington as Montana
    Chrebet as Lynn Swan
    Fabini as Boselli
    Kareem as Orlando Pace
    Kevin Mawae as Himself&#33;&#33;

    Hermy as Bill Parcells
    Hackett as Charlie Weiss
    Henderson as BB


    Did I miss anything?

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    Does anyone remember 2000 when we ran a 3-4?

    Does anyone remember what Abes production was in the 6 games he played at OLB?

    Didn&#39;t he have 5 sacks in 6 games as a rookie?

    With Ellis having 8 sacks playing the end position, and Ferguson manning the NT position?

    I think a 3-4 would fit the front seven very well when used occasionally

    ELLIS
    FERGUSON/DROB
    EVANS/MATT WALTERS


    BARTON
    COWART
    VILMA/HOBSON
    JOHNNY ABE/BTHOMAS (PASS RUSHERS ONLY)


    John Abraham rushing off the end in a 3-4 is practically impossible to stop

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by chiefst2000+Apr 27 2004, 10:25 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (chiefst2000 @ Apr 27 2004, 10:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Xmarco[/i]@Apr 26 2004, 01:24 PM
    [b] Jon Abe as LT
    DRob as Sapp
    Vilma as Ray Lewis
    Ellis as Reg White
    B Thomas as Situational Bruce Smith [/b][/quote]
    You missed a few

    Evans as Ted Washington
    D Strait as Charles Woodson
    Mc Graw as John Lynch (in his prime)
    R Tongue as Ronnie Lott
    Ray Mickens as Champ Bailey

    SMoss as RMoss
    Jmac as Jerry Rice
    Becht as TGonzales
    Pennington as Montana
    Chrebet as Lynn Swan
    Fabini as Boselli
    Kareem as Orlando Pace
    Kevin Mawae as Himself&#33;&#33;

    Hermy as Bill Parcells
    Hackett as Charlie Weiss
    Henderson as BB


    Did I miss anything? [/b][/quote]
    lol

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