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    John O'Neill, the sadly prescient FBI counterterrorism expert who perished in the World Trade Center attack, understood long before 9-11 that the problem of "Islamofacism" was chiefly a Saudi one. "All the answers," he said, "everything needed to dismantle Osama bin Laden's organization, can be found in Saudi Arabia." But that's only if you're willing to look, which Bush clearly is not. Indeed, he has protected the Saudis at every juncture.

    The pattern was established within hours of the atrocities in New York and Washington, when Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the Saudi ambassador (long known as Bandar Bush because of his coziness with the first family), was permitted to spirit members of the bin Laden clan out of the United States before the FBI could properly interview them. Since then, the Department of Justice has impeded the lawsuit filed against the Saudi regime by the September 11 families; the White House blacked out the portions of a congressional report that detailed the Saudi role in 9-11, and everyone from the president on down has steadfastly insisted that the Saudis are paid-up members of the anti-terrorism posse.

    Bush can spew all the frontier rhetoric he wishes, but in the case of the Saudis, his inaction speaks louder. Why he would rather undermine the war on terrorism than confront Riyadh is an interesting question, and it doesn't require a particularly active imagination to wonder if there is more here than just oil and a bad case of realpolitik.

    The links between the House of Bush and the House of Saud are deep, overlapping and notoriously opaque: the Saudi investment in the Carlyle Group, the private equity firm whose rainmakers include George Bush Senior; the Saudi bankrolling of Poppy's presidential library; the lucrative contracts the Saudis doled out to Halliburton when Dick Cheney was at the company's helm. The main law firm retained by the Saudis to defend them against the 9-11 families is Baker Botts -- as in James Baker, the Bush family consigliere. And, of course, there's oil, the black glue connecting all these dots.

    In short, the Bushies have profited mightily from a relationship with a foreign government that can be indirectly, perhaps even directly, implicated in the September 11 attacks and other terrorist incidents and that has been the driving force behind a worldwide jihad.

    The administration's coddling of the Saudis presents the Democrats with an opening the size of Texas, and they need to seize it. Bush is never more inarticulate and unconvincing than when on the defensive, and no subject is going to set him on his heels faster, and keep him there longer, than the Saudi question.

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    remember Bush's post 9-11 rhetoric..fighting evil blah blah blah..taking the fight to the terrorists...holding gov't who support terror accountable...
    what an absolute lie...
    Bush is such a joke...The Saudi Royal family supports terrorists..By Bush's own policys we should have sent 150,000 troops there...BUT WAIT..THe Bush Family and their Supporters alreaddt have Billion Dollar deals there..Therefore we can't remove that gov't..The Bush family has spent years cultivating that glorious relationship....
    So what do we do:

    We attack the country with the second largest oil reserves...and who benefits..
    Even though the weapons inspectors were finding nothing..no verifiable links to al qaeda...even though Saddams' gov't was a socialist gov't that was had NOTHING to do with islamic radicalism....
    Bush sleeps with terror

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bman[/i]@May 7 2004, 12:38 PM
    [b] remember Bush's post 9-11 rhetoric..fighting evil blah blah blah..taking the fight to the terrorists...holding gov't who support terror accountable...
    what an absolute lie...
    Bush is such a joke...The Saudi Royal family supports terrorists..By Bush's own policys we should have sent 150,000 troops there...BUT WAIT..THe Bush Family and their Supporters alreaddt have Billion Dollar deals there..Therefore we can't remove that gov't..The Bush family has spent years cultivating that glorious relationship....
    So what do we do:

    We attack the country with the second largest oil reserves...and who benefits..
    Even though the weapons inspectors were finding nothing..no verifiable links to al qaeda...even though Saddams' gov't was a socialist gov't that was had NOTHING to do with islamic radicalism....
    Bush sleeps with terror [/b][/quote]
    If he attacked Saudi Arabia you'd be crying about that war as well.

    Stop being a hypocrite.

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    I was never crying about attacking al qaeda in afghanistan..That was justified..
    attacking Iraq is a politcal/oil/money war under the guise of 'fighting terror'..

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bman[/i]@May 7 2004, 12:45 PM
    [b] I was never crying about attacking al qaeda in afghanistan..That was justified..
    attacking Iraq is a politcal/oil/money war under the guise of 'fighting terror'.. [/b][/quote]
    That's your opinion, albeit uneducated and wrong.

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    pope:

    WELL before 9-11 the iraq war was thought up by the neo cons...(rummy/wolfi/cheney/perle)...
    This was on the agenda for a long time...and freeing the iraqui people from Saddam Hussein wasn't there motive!
    get a clue man....
    9-11 happens and suyddenly this plan becomes 'doable'....
    10 minutes after the tower falls That Great man Rumsfeld writes a memo "can we pin it on SH"..
    the greatest day of disadter and they are already foaming at the mouth for Iraq!

    weeks later (we haven't even attacked qeada yet) and Bush starts planting the seed....in all of the press conferences He starts talking Iraq..talking saddam...

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bman[/i]@May 7 2004, 12:55 PM
    [b] pope:

    WELL before 9-11 the iraq war was thought up by the neo cons...(rummy/wolfi/cheney/perle)...
    This was on the agenda for a long time...and freeing the iraqui people from Saddam Hussein wasn't there motive!
    get a clue man....
    9-11 happens and suyddenly this plan becomes 'doable'....
    10 minutes after the tower falls That Great man Rumsfeld writes a memo "can we pin it on SH"..
    the greatest day of disadter and they are already foaming at the mouth for Iraq!

    weeks later (we haven't even attacked qeada yet) and Bush starts planting the seed....in all of the press conferences He starts talking Iraq..talking saddam... [/b][/quote]
    Ok Michael Moore :lol:

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    if you choose to live life with closed eyes I can't help you..you ignore facts..
    FACT: 9-11..
    rumsfeld: we need to start puuting together targets in Iraq to bomb"

    But Don, Iraq didn't do this..

    "Yeah but there aren't any good targets in afghanistan"

    Thsi is our fukin SEc. Of DEfense!

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bman[/i]@May 7 2004, 01:00 PM
    [b] if you choose to live life with closed eyes I can't help you..you ignore facts..
    FACT: 9-11..
    rumsfeld: we need to start puuting together targets in Iraq to bomb"

    But Don, Iraq didn't do this..

    "Yeah but there aren't any good targets in afghanistan"

    Thsi is our fukin SEc. Of DEfense! [/b][/quote]
    Ok Susan Sarandon :lol:

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by pope+May 7 2004, 12:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (pope @ May 7 2004, 12:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--bman[/i]@May 7 2004, 12:38 PM
    [b] remember Bush&#39;s post 9-11 rhetoric..fighting evil blah blah blah..taking the fight to the terrorists...holding gov&#39;t who support terror accountable...
    what an absolute lie...
    Bush is such a joke...The Saudi Royal family supports terrorists..By Bush&#39;s own policys we should have sent 150,000 troops there...BUT WAIT..THe Bush Family and their Supporters alreaddt have Billion Dollar deals there..Therefore we can&#39;t remove that gov&#39;t..The Bush family has spent years cultivating that glorious relationship....
    So what do we do:

    We attack the country with the second largest oil reserves...and who benefits..
    Even though the weapons inspectors were finding nothing..no verifiable links to al qaeda...even though Saddams&#39; gov&#39;t was a socialist gov&#39;t that was had NOTHING to do with islamic radicalism....
    Bush sleeps with terror [/b][/quote]
    If he attacked Saudi Arabia you&#39;d be crying about that war as well.

    Stop being a hypocrite. [/b][/quote]
    Agree. Anti Bush people always want to coplainthat we are attacking the wronmg people as if they would support an attack of the "real" enemies? What carp...they would compalin no matter what.

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    Ok smart guys, defend WHY we continue to be allied with Saudi Arabia then? Don&#39;t call me names, and don&#39;t think you are being funny. Back up your argument with something a bit more solid than jokes.

    Why, when it is a proven fact that Saudi Arabia sponsors US hate and Terrorism, does the US continue to be allied with them?

    I have no issue with crushing terrorists or removing Sadam. But the TRUE HYPOCRITE is someone who thinks Saudi Arabia is just AOK these days. They are as evil, if not more so, than Saddam. And THEY are more behind 9/11 than Saddam ever was.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Warfish[/i]@May 7 2004, 02:45 PM
    [b] Ok smart guys, defend WHY we continue to be allied with Saudi Arabia then? Don&#39;t call me names, and don&#39;t think you are being funny. Back up your argument with something a bit more solid than jokes.

    Why, when it is a proven fact that Saudi Arabia sponsors US hate and Terrorism, does the US continue to be allied with them?

    I have no issue with crushing terrorists or removing Sadam. But the TRUE HYPOCRITE is someone who thinks Saudi Arabia is just AOK these days. They are as evil, if not more so, than Saddam. And THEY are more behind 9/11 than Saddam ever was. [/b][/quote]
    Unfortunately, we are slaves to the Saudi&#39;s oil. I think we should be taking a harder line with the Saudi&#39;s. The government is currently appling heavy pressure on the saudi&#39;s to crack down on terror and the underlying roots of terror being taught in their mosques. That said alot more could be done.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Warfish[/i]@May 7 2004, 02:45 PM
    [b] Ok smart guys, defend WHY we continue to be allied with Saudi Arabia then? Don&#39;t call me names, and don&#39;t think you are being funny. Back up your argument with something a bit more solid than jokes.

    Why, when it is a proven fact that Saudi Arabia sponsors US hate and Terrorism, does the US continue to be allied with them?

    I have no issue with crushing terrorists or removing Sadam. But the TRUE HYPOCRITE is someone who thinks Saudi Arabia is just AOK these days. They are as evil, if not more so, than Saddam. And THEY are more behind 9/11 than Saddam ever was. [/b][/quote]
    No one would be happier if we attacked Saudi Arabia than myself.

    Since we (ALL PARTIES) rely on their oil it&#39;s impossible.

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    [quote][b]No one would be happier if we attacked Saudi Arabia than myself.[/b][/quote]

    Finally, something we AGREE on.....

    [quote][b]Since we (ALL PARTIES) rely on their oil it&#39;s impossible. [/b][/quote]

    Sadly, we couldn&#39;t go two for two....

    The US CHOOSES to rely on Middle Eastern oil. The US reserves and undeveloped oil is MORE than enough to meet our needs, and for a LONG time to come.

    Fact is, we choose this life of dependence, through corrupt oil corporations, hippie radicals, convenient politics, and our own amazingly wasteful lifestyles.

    It is a chain we could break....if only we chose to.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Warfish[/i]@May 7 2004, 03:00 PM
    [b] [quote][b]No one would be happier if we attacked Saudi Arabia than myself.[/b][/quote]

    Finally, something we AGREE on.....

    [quote][b]Since we (ALL PARTIES) rely on their oil it&#39;s impossible. [/b][/quote]

    Sadly, we couldn&#39;t go two for two....

    The US CHOOSES to rely on Middle Eastern oil. The US reserves and undeveloped oil is MORE than enough to meet our needs, and for a LONG time to come.

    Fact is, we choose this life of dependence, through corrupt oil corporations, hippie radicals, convenient politics, and our own amazingly wasteful lifestyles.

    It is a chain we could break....if only we chose to. [/b][/quote]
    Let be honest...

    1) Why do we depend on Middle eastern oil? Because our AMERICAN companies have invested a lot of money to drill there and their is a lot of &#036;&#036;&#036;&#036; that would be lost if we said F U to the saudis....we are stuck.

    2) Saudi Arabia is a Monarchy built on tribal wars and wahhabism(extreme orthodox Islam)..

    3) Saudi Arabia would have been crushed if we invaded....

    4) Saudi Arabia better stop exporting Wahhabi teachings or we will have to lay the smack down.

    I dont consider Saudi Arabia a loyal ally...they are like those friends we had back in school who smiled in your face but behind your back spread rumors about you outta envy....we dont need friends like that.

    LL

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