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    ''I'm pretty tough on Castro, because I think he's running one of the last vestiges of a Stalinist secret police government in the world,'' Kerry told WPLG-ABC 10 reporter Michael Putney.I voted for the Helms-Burton legislation(Cuban Liberty and Democratic Solidarity (LIBERTAD) Act of 1996 ) to be tough on companies that deal with him.''



    U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 104th Congress - 2nd Session

    as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate


    Vote Summary

    Measure Number: H.R. 927 (Cuban Liberty and Democratic Solidarity (LIBERTAD) Act of 1996 )
    Measure Title: A bill to seek international sanctions against the Castro government in Cuba, to plan for support of a transition government leading to a democratically elected government in Cuba, and for other purposes.
    Vote Date: March 5, 1996, 02:21 PM
    Vote Counts: YEAs 74
    NAYs 22
    Not Voting 4


    Alphabetical by Senator Name
    Abraham (R-MI), Yea
    Akaka (D-HI), Nay
    Ashcroft (R-MO), Yea
    Baucus (D-MT), Yea
    Bennett (R-UT), Yea
    Biden (D-DE), Yea
    Bingaman (D-NM), Nay
    Bond (R-MO), Nay
    Boxer (D-CA), Nay
    Bradley (D-NJ), Yea
    Breaux (D-LA), Yea
    Brown (R-CO), Yea
    Bryan (D-NV), Yea
    Bumpers (D-AR), Nay
    Burns (R-MT), Yea
    Byrd (D-WV), Yea
    Campbell (R-CO), Yea
    Chafee (R-RI), Nay
    Coats (R-IN), Yea
    Cochran (R-MS), Yea
    Cohen (R-ME), Yea
    Conrad (D-ND), Yea
    Coverdell (R-GA), Yea
    Craig (R-ID), Yea
    D'Amato (R-NY), Yea
    Daschle (D-SD), Yea
    DeWine (R-OH), Yea
    Dodd (D-CT), Nay
    Dole (R-KS), Yea
    Domenici (R-NM), Yea
    Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
    Exon (D-NE), Yea
    Faircloth (R-NC), Yea
    Feingold (D-WI), Nay
    Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
    Ford (D-KY), Yea
    Frist (R-TN), Yea
    Glenn (D-OH), Yea
    Gorton (R-WA), Yea
    Graham (D-FL), Yea
    Gramm (R-TX), Yea
    Grams (R-MN), Yea
    Grassley (R-IA), Yea
    Gregg (R-NH), Yea
    Harkin (D-IA), Nay
    Hatch (R-UT), Yea
    Hatfield (R-OR), Nay
    Heflin (D-AL), Yea
    Helms (R-NC), Yea
    Hollings (D-SC), Yea
    Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
    Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
    Inouye (D-HI), Not Voting
    Jeffords (R-VT), Nay
    Johnston (D-LA), Yea
    Kassebaum (R-KS), Yea
    Kempthorne (R-ID), Yea
    Kennedy (D-MA), Nay
    Kerrey (D-NE), Nay
    [color=red]Kerry (D-MA), Nay [/color]
    Kohl (D-WI), Yea
    Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
    Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea
    Leahy (D-VT), Nay
    Levin (D-MI), Nay
    Lieberman (D-CT), Yea
    Lott (R-MS), Yea
    Lugar (R-IN), Not Voting
    Mack (R-FL), Yea
    McCain (R-AZ), Yea
    McConnell (R-KY), Yea
    Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
    Moseley-Braun (D-IL), Nay
    Moynihan (D-NY), Nay
    Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
    Murray (D-WA), Nay
    Nickles (R-OK), Yea
    Nunn (D-GA), Not Voting
    Pell (D-RI), Nay
    Pressler (R-SD), Yea
    Pryor (D-AR), Yea
    Reid (D-NV), Yea
    Robb (D-VA), Yea
    Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
    Roth (R-DE), Not Voting
    Santorum (R-PA), Yea
    Sarbanes (D-MD), Yea
    Shelby (R-AL), Yea
    Simon (D-IL), Nay
    Simpson (R-WY), Yea
    Smith (R-NH), Yea
    Snowe (R-ME), Yea
    Specter (R-PA), Yea
    Stevens (R-AK), Yea
    Thomas (R-WY), Yea
    Thompson (R-TN), Yea
    Thurmond (R-SC), Yea
    Warner (R-VA), Yea
    Wellstone (D-MN), Nay
    Wyden

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    What a shock, Hanoi John not telling the truth... :rolleyes:

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    Copy of the transcript of Meet the Press from April 18th: [url=http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4772030/]http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4772030/[/url]


    [b]Mr. RUSSERT:[/b] We're here in Florida and relations with Cuba are a very important issue. [b]This is what John Kerry said in 2000 about that situation. And John Kerry, "who's a member of the foreign relations committee said in an interview that a reevaluation of relations with Cuba was way overdue. We have a frozen, stalemated counterproductive policy that is not in humanitarian interests nor in our larger credibility interest in the region. There's just a complete and total contradiction between the way we deal with China, the way we deal with Russia, the way we have been dealing with Cuba over the last several years. It speaks volumes about the problems in the current American electoral process. ...The only
    reason we don't reevaluate the policy is the politics of Florida."[/b]

    We don't have an embargo on China. We don't have an embargo on Russia. We have one on Cuba and what you're suggesting is because of the power of the Cuban-American lobby, that's why our policy's in place.

    [b]SEN. KERRY:[/b] [SIZE=3][b]I think in the year 2000, the politics are very different from where they are in 2004. I think there's been a dramatic change in the community in Florida itself. [/b][/SIZE] Now, I met with members of that community. All through the years I've been in the Senate, for 20 years, Tim. I have never suggested lifting the embargo. I don't suggest you just lift the embargo. That's not what I'm talking about. But for anybody to suggest that what we've been doing has worked, that it has somehow--I mean, look what happened with the Vallera program recently. A whole bunch of people got arrested and put in jail. What I want to do...

    MR. RUSSERT: Why not lift the embargo and overthrow Castro...

    SEN. KERRY: Here's what I'm going to do.

    MR. RUSSERT: ...with trade and with kindness and have people simply say "You can't maintain your status as a dictator when people are traveling free and exchanging ideas and exchanging goods." And that is the kind of way...

    SEN. KERRY: Tim, I've been before...

    MR. RUSSERT: ...with China and Russia--as you point out, with China and Russia it has worked in terms of trying to break down some of those barriers, make it less totalitarian, certainly at least in Russia. Why not try it with Cuba?

    SEN. KERRY: Well, Tim, as you know, I led the effort with John McCain to try to open up Vietnam and we moved against many of those kinds of arguments. I think I know how to do this. But in the case of Cuba, there are a lot of different crosscurrents that are important to be sensitive to. What I have done is sat down with members of the community and listened, and I find that there is a willingness within the community to begin to think about other alternatives and options. I wouldn't want to just announce a policy without sitting with people in the community, listening carefully, trying to build a consensus and see what we can do. But I...

    MR. RUSSERT: We should keep the embargo?

    SEN. KERRY: But I wouldn't just give something for nothing but I would begin to encourage travel. I've suggested that. I think that's appropriate. I think remittances might be considered and might be helpful in order...

    MR. RUSSERT: But keep the embargo?

    SEN. KERRY: For the moment I would like to see what we can negotiate, what we could try to move forward, and I'd like to see how the Cuban community itself might be able to build a consensus about an approach. I think that's a smart way to do it and that's what I'd like to try to do.

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    Now the question begs to be asked of kerry; besides the fact that Castro is four years closer to death and you need cuban-American votes in Florida this November, how are the politics different from four years ago and how has the community changed??? (of course Russert never asked the simple follow-up question <_< )

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    you dipwads really want to be tough on cuba?

    why? communism is dead and the same can almost be said for Castro

    frankly i think it would be hot to go to Cuban casinos and party like the mob wanted to do in the 50&#39;s. Cuban girls are smokin - the cigars are excellent

    the missle crisis is ancient history and Cuban is a hot island - not to mention Bush approved us selling TONS of food and other stuff to Cuba... we sell we just can&#39;t buy? or travel?

    who really cares about being tough on Cuba? it&#39;s a dead issue

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    as for the lie, so what he&#39;s a liar. He&#39;s a politician.

    He&#39;s running for President when one tells the truth while running for President one&#39;s campaign won&#39;t last very long

    you jerks should be more concerned about the pic i saw today with Arab men simulating falacio on each other... the "street" will love that...

    and more soldiers will die :ph34r:

    that&#39;s something to talk about on the forum

    not being tough on Cuba.

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    [i]I think you&#39;re funny you&#39;re funny ha ha
    I don&#39;t need it don&#39;t need your blah blah
    Should&#39;ve realised I know what you are

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    [b]NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS, HERE&#39;S JOHN KERRY[/b]

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bitonti[/i]@May 11 2004, 12:15 AM
    [b] you dipwads really want to be tough on cuba?

    why? communism is dead and the same can almost be said for Castro

    frankly i think it would be hot to go to Cuban casinos and party like the mob wanted to do in the 50&#39;s. Cuban girls are smokin - the cigars are excellent

    the missle crisis is ancient history and Cuban is a hot island - not to mention Bush approved us selling TONS of food and other stuff to Cuba... we sell we just can&#39;t buy? or travel?

    who really cares about being tough on Cuba? it&#39;s a dead issue

    ---

    as for the lie, so what he&#39;s a liar. He&#39;s a politician.

    He&#39;s running for President when one tells the truth while running for President one&#39;s campaign won&#39;t last very long

    you jerks should be more concerned about the pic i saw today with Arab men simulating falacio on each other... the "street" will love that...

    and more soldiers will die :ph34r:

    that&#39;s something to talk about on the forum

    not being tough on Cuba. [/b][/quote]
    I don&#39;t give a flying eff about Cuba. Personally, I wish Castro would drop dead, they would become democratic and I could go vacation there.

    The point is jean francoise kerri&#39;s constant flip-flopping on issues for no other reason then to garner votes....another words; he&#39;s a piece of sh&#33;t hypocrite&#33;

    As far as communism being dead, I&#39;m sure you also think N. Korea is not a threat in any way/shape/form?

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    go to cuba if you want...i know alot of people who have gone on vacation there...you just have to tell them you are going with a group supposed to be helping people...

    my neighbor just got back from cuba about a month ago...she is a nutcase though...but still she went with a churchgroup...

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bitonti[/i]@May 11 2004, 12:15 AM
    [b] you jerks should be more concerned about the pic i saw today with Arab men simulating falacio on each other... the "street" will love that...

    [/b][/quote]
    Frankly who gives a &#036;hit about the Arab street? Boo hooo the poor terrorists.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by pope+May 11 2004, 11:59 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (pope @ May 11 2004, 11:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--bitonti[/i]@May 11 2004, 12:15 AM
    [b] you jerks should be more concerned about the pic i saw today with Arab men simulating falacio on each other... the "street" will love that...

    [/b][/quote]
    Frankly who gives a &#036;hit about the Arab street? Boo hooo the poor terrorists. [/b][/quote]
    pope these are the people Bush is trying to convert to democracy :blink:

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bitonti+May 11 2004, 12:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (bitonti @ May 11 2004, 12:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> [quote]Originally posted by -pope@May 11 2004, 11:59 AM
    [b] <!--QuoteBegin--bitonti[/i]@May 11 2004, 12:15 AM
    [b] you jerks should be more concerned about the pic i saw today with Arab men simulating falacio on each other... the "street" will love that...

    [/b][/quote]
    Frankly who gives a &#036;hit about the Arab street? Boo hooo the poor terrorists. [/b][/quote]
    pope these are the people Bush is trying to convert to democracy :blink: [/b][/quote]
    These people don&#39;t want democracy, they aren&#39;t fighting for it, they&#39;re so used to being puppets they don&#39;t know any better.

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