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    Hofstra Graduation
    Author booed for anti-Bush remarks


    BY BART JONES
    STAFF WRITER

    May 24, 2004

    E.L. Doctorow, one of the most celebrated writers in America, was nearly booed off the stage at Hofstra University Sunday when he gave a commencement address lambasting President George W. Bush and effectively calling him a liar.

    Booing that came mainly from the crowd in the stands became so intense that Doctorow stopped speaking at one point, showing no emotion as he stood silently and listened to the jeers. Hofstra President Stuart Rabinowitz intervened, and called on the audience to allow him to finish. He did, although some booing persisted.

    Doctorow, who spent virtually all of his 20-minute address in Hempstead criticizing Bush, told the crowd that like himself the president is a storyteller. But "sadly they are not good stories this president tells," he said. "They are not good stories because they are not true." That line provoked the first boos, along with scattered cheers.

    "One story he told was that the country of Iraq had nuclear and biological and chemical weapons of mass destruction and was intending shortly to use them on us," he said. "That was an exciting story all right, it was designed to send shivers up our spines. But it was not true.

    "Another story was that the Iraqi dictator, Saddam Hussein, was in league with the terrorists of al-Qaida," he said. "And that turned out to be not true. But anyway we went off to war on the basis of these stories."

    Those lines provoked an outburst of boos so loud the "Ragtime" author stopped the speech. Rabinowitz approached the podium and called for calm. "We value open discussion and debate," he said. "For the sake of your graduates, please let him finish."

    Some students and most of the faculty responded with a standing ovation, and Doctorow resumed speaking. He attacked Bush for giving the rich tax breaks, doing "a very poor job of combating terrorism" and allowing the government to subpoena libraries "to see what books you've been taking out."

    Many parents and relatives of the more than 1,300 undergraduates were livid over the address, saying afterward that a college graduation was not the place for a political speech. "If this would have happened in Florida, we would have taken him out" of the stadium, said Frank Mallafre, who traveled from Miami for his granddaughter's graduation.

    Bill Schmidt, 51, of North Bellmore, shared the outrage. "To ruin my daughter's graduation with politics is pathetic," the retired New York Police Department captain said. "I think the president is doing the best he can" in the war against terrorism.

    Many students also called Doctorow's speech inappropriate. Peter Hulse, 24, of Manchester, England, said, "He's a bit like Michael Moore," the documentary director who provoked booing at last year's Oscars' ceremony by criticizing the war in Iraq.

    But some defended Doctorow's speech. "I think he's entitled to his opinion and he's as American as anyone else," said a Hempstead resident who identified himself only as Frank and whose daughter was graduating.

    One Hofstra official said Sunday that while Doctorow had the right to say what he did, he violated the unwritten code that college commencement speeches should inspire and unite a student body. Provost Dr. Herman Berliner said he has been to numerous graduation ceremonies during the past 30 years and "I cannot remember a commencement speech that was as divisive as this commencement speech was." The university did not know the content of the address. It is not Hofstra's policy to screen commencement speeches, officials said.

    Berliner said it was relatively common during the Vietnam War, but "extraordinarily uncommon" in recent times for a speaker to have to stop speaking.

    Still, it has happened recently. Last year, New York Times reporter Chris Hedges was booed off the stage when he tried to deliver an antiwar speech at Rockford College in Illinois.

    Some Hofstra professors said Doctorow was on target in discussing the war. "I thought this was a totally appropriate place to talk about politics because that's the world our students are entering," said sociology professor Cynthia Bogard. "I only wish their parents had provided them a better role model."

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    Booing came from some idiot soccer mom and dad parents...My cousin graduates and tols me that the student body and faculty gave a standing ovation!
    F-Bush

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    Its too bad those folks didn't bring any tomatos to throw at that guy. How about giving an uplifting speach instead of using the opportunity to spew hatred towards the President

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    Seems college grads are getting a little fed up with dirtbag libs pressing their opinions upon people on what should be a day that celebrates the graduates....this took place more than a week ago at Oswego!

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    [b]Sorensen booed at Oswego graduation (JFK hack disses Bush)[/b]

    A keynote speaker at State University College at Oswego's graduation ceremony Saturday was drowned out by booing, hissing and foot-stomping after he criticized President Bush.

    Theodore C. Sorensen, a lawyer and author who served as special counsel to President Kennedy, never said Bush's name. But he took the president to task for going on vacation after warnings of terrorist attacks surfaced, declaring war without allied support and gloating about a victory.

    Sorensen compared the ways Kennedy handled the Cuban Missile Crisis in October 1962 to the methods Bush used to handle the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

    "President Kennedy did not proceed unilaterally, without obtaining the support of our allies and without recourse to the United Nations," he said.

    As Sorensen spoke, one student's mother stood up and ordered him off the stage. A graduate yelled, "Are you serious?" but another quickly chimed in, "Let the man finish his speech."

    The noise got so loud that Sorensen, who spoke into a microphone, at times could not be heard. More than half his speech was overpowered by audience rumbling and shouting.

    College President Deborah F. Stanley moved next to Sorensen as he spoke through the chaos. Stanley thanked the audience for being respectful "in a place where ideas, information and understanding reign supreme." She said after the ceremony that her comment was as much a criticism as a compliment.

    "People, I think, understand that Mr. Sorensen has led a political and policy-oriented life," Stanley said. "But the way he chose to express that was, perhaps, surprising."

    "It was just like a slap in the face," said Mary Sheldon, of Lorraine, Jefferson County, whose daughter Johanna Besaw graduated Saturday with an English degree. "We came here to be supportive of our kids and their achievements. It wasn't the time or the place for politics."

    Sheldon's son, David Dreier, 25, received notice Thursday that he will be shipping out to Iraq with the National Guard. The family left Romney Field House, where the ceremony was held, midway through Sorensen's speech.

    Charlie Vecchio, 25, a former army soldier originally from Manlius, disagreed with Sorensen's views but had more of a problem with the audience.

    "People's reactions were a little outrageous," he said. "I have friends who died so we could say what we want. That's part of why our soldiers are over there, for our right to freedom of speech."

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bman[/i]@May 24 2004, 01:36 PM
    [b] Booing came from some idiot soccer mom and dad parents...My cousin graduates and tols me that the student body and faculty gave a standing ovation!
    F-Bush [/b][/quote]
    This dope is probably right to some extent. I graduated from Hofstra and was one of very few people who worked my way through. The ones who were booing were probably the ones who paid for the education (parents and working students) Not the goofball graduates, most of whom never worked an honest day in their lives

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Come Back to NY[/i]@May 24 2004, 01:43 PM
    [b] Sorensen compared the ways Kennedy handled the Cuban Missile Crisis in October 1962 to the methods Bush used to handle the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

    "President Kennedy did not proceed unilaterally, without obtaining the support of our allies and without recourse to the United Nations," he said.

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    You have to be Kidding Me?? The Missiles in Cuba threatened the US
    no one else?? Why would France England or anyone else care about
    Cuba?? They had Missiles pointed at them from east Germany! JFK
    acted alone and then sold out the Cuban Patriots when he pulled Air
    Support at the Bay of Pigs..And I liked JFK, but to this Day that's why
    Cubans vote Republican.. And how can you compare not being attacked
    as in 62 to being attacked on 9/11?? <_< :rolleyes:

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    thank god people are starting to take a stand against nonsense like this.

    I have to put up with this garbage daily when Im at school...teachers pressing their views, bashing the country, bashing the president...when they arent even American citizens.

    Ocfourse, if I were to lash out against these idiots...i get pinned being someone who is a crazy conservative who is close minded.

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    Its alll bull****, people need to start appreciating what they have and spend less time nagging, trying to spew off their bull**** opinions...especially at a graduation.


    the hofstra crowd gets a thumbs up from me...if I were graduationg, I probably would have walked out and left until the speaker finished.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bman[/i]@May 24 2004, 02:36 PM
    [b] Booing came from some idiot soccer mom and dad parents...My cousin graduates and tols me that the student body and faculty gave a standing ovation&#33;
    F-Bush [/b][/quote]
    You smell that everyone, I smell a &#39;one upper&#39;.

    You biked 5 miles, bman biked 6.

    Your house cost 100,000, bman&#39;s cost &#036;150,000.

    You bought a corvette, bman bought a ferrari.

    Reread all the articles from a multitude of sources, it was the graduates and they are fed up with their commencements becoming political stages for either side of the issue.

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    what idiocy. college graduation speeches are not the place for this garbage. go on tv and spout off. write an article and spout off. don&#39;t do it on someone else&#39;s time on someone else&#39;s day&#33; this is like susan sarandon and tim robbins. they go on all these shows and start mouthing off about garbage that should be somewhere else&#33; i don&#39;t want politics with my tv, my movies, my awads shows, my graduation ceremony&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; it&#39;s not even about the opinions, it&#39;s about the place&#33; hofstra&#39;s graduation is not where you start voicing your unsolicited opinion on a political topic. i hate that with a passion.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Zombo[/i]@May 24 2004, 06:25 PM
    [b] what idiocy. college graduation speeches are not the place for this garbage. go on tv and spout off. write an article and spout off. don&#39;t do it on someone else&#39;s time on someone else&#39;s day&#33; this is like susan sarandon and tim robbins. they go on all these shows and start mouthing off about garbage that should be somewhere else&#33; i don&#39;t want politics with my tv, my movies, my awads shows, my graduation ceremony&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; it&#39;s not even about the opinions, it&#39;s about the place&#33; hofstra&#39;s graduation is not where you start voicing your unsolicited opinion on a political topic. i hate that with a passion. [/b][/quote]
    the problem is, is that these college professors think they are better than everyone else, and that their opinion should be take with higher rigards because they have a Dr before their names.

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