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    The NYC Democratic congressmen has sunk to an all time low. Not since their condemnation of the afghan war have I been so imbarrassed to be a New Yorker. From todays Post..


    July 12, 2004 -- A baker's dozen of congressional Democrats, among them four New York ers, has petitioned U.N. Secretary- General Kofi Annan to dispatch international observers to Florida to oversee this year's presidential balloting there.
    Signatories include Reps. Jerrold Nadler and Carolyn Maloney of ManhatTan; Edolphus Towns of Brooklyn and Joseph Crowley of Queens.

    They should be ashamed of themselves.

    On one level, the letter represents naked race-baiting.

    The effort is led by Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson, a former head of the Congressional Black Caucus who justifies the invitation by asserting that "African-Americans [and] women . . . have fought too hard and too long for us to allow our votes not to be counted."

    It's hard to argue with the sentiment except that it's totally irrelevant to the Florida election results of four years ago: There is no credible evidence that a single voter was disenfranchised in 2000 for any reason whatsoever.

    Not one.



    Nadler and Maloney, at least, are smart enough to know that, so their participation in this noxious stunt must be considered willful.

    And slanderous.

    The last presidential election was remarkable for several reasons the astonishingly close margin of victory being only the most memorable.

    Of more significance was the measured manner in which American tradition and respect for law resolved a conflict that in many if not most other countries would have seen soldiers in the streets.

    There never was a crisis, despite the hyperventilated media commentary.

    And, fever-swamp rhetoric to the contrary, nobody stole anything in 2000: George Bush won fair and square even if it could easily have gone the other way without offending the basic facts.

    The election was a dead heat.

    When that happens at the race track, the purse and parimutuel payouts are split into equal portions.

    But you can't split the White House. There is, however, recourse in the courts further testimony to the foresight of the brilliant men who created this singular nation.

    Presently the dispute was settled; the republic endured and never was there any doubt about it.

    Whatever has happened to Al Gore since, when the Supreme Court effectively ended it all the then-vice president's concession was gracious and wise. He said that night: "Neither [George W. Bush] nor I anticipated this long and difficult road. Certainly neither of us wanted it to happen. Yet it came, and now it has ended, resolved, as it must be resolved, through the honored institutions of our democracy.

    "Over the library of one of our great law schools is inscribed the motto, 'Not under man but under God and law.' That's the ruling principle of American freedom, the source of our democratic liberties."

    Meanwhile, Annan presides over a congress comprised largely of cutthroats and footpads representatives of nations where a peaceful transfer of power is as alien as a free election.

    The United Nations can't bestir itself to stop incipient genocide in Sudan or even to speak forcefully against it yet Nadler and Maloney think the organization has something to teach America about free elections?

    Disapprobation accrues to Crowley and Towns, too. But they don't pretend to be anything more than what they are and so nothing much is expected of them.

    But if the four of them ever should wonder why much of the rest of country looks upon the Big Apple as a moral sinkhole, they need only take a long, hard look in a mirror.

    If they can.

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    Nadler....oh yeah i remember him..no neck...

    [img]http://www.fatbaldandproud.com/images/Fat%20Man%20Blue.jpg[/img]


    I hate that guy....reminds me too much of Mark Green...

    ugh!


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    The Democrats are concerned with voting in Florida, yet they are trying to keep Nader off the ballots in other states.....

    Same old shameless liberal hypocrisy......

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    These whiny liberal scum are trying to imply that the Republicans are trying to fix the election. Its sickening.

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    when you say there was no credible evidence

    that's actually not true

    the state of Florida created a commission that found many people were inaccurately denied the right to vote

    in one example there were many people who were counted as felons (when they weren't) on the day of the event.

    there were many minorities who were denied the right to vote because they were assigned to polling places without the resources to verify identity

    in the 2000 election blacks were 10 times more likely than non-blacks to have their ballots rejected.

    if you don't believe this is true then why has Florida re-vamped their voting laws to safeguard against it
    happening again?

    [url=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,122779,00.html]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,122779,00.html[/url]

    they should send the UN down there. Bush's brother cannot be trusted not to deliver another election for Dubya

    lets be honest if the roles were reversed and Gore's brother delievered his state to Gore by 536 votes, in a state where thousands of Republican voters were denied access to the polls you guys would be screaming bloody murder

    [url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5404453/]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5404453/[/url]

    [url=http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/07/06/politics/main514370.shtml]http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/07/06/...ain514370.shtml[/url]

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by chiefst2000[/i]@Jul 13 2004, 10:41 AM
    [b] These whiny liberal scum are trying to imply that the Republicans are trying to fix the election. Its sickening. [/b][/quote]
    I repeat!

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    I agree. A request for international observers to oversee any part of our elections is a ridiculous & undermining request & speaks volumes about these idiots.

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    oh yeah it's so ridiculous

    when some godforsaken place like the the republic of Dajbouti gets a voting district handed to the incumbant by the incumbant's brother, and when both men are the sons of the former head of the gove't secret police, that whole situation is dismissed as third world corruption

    when it happens in the US that's democracy in action

    there is no way to justify the florida debacle - bad sh-t went down and we should make sure it doesn't happen again

    what is really scary are all these electronic voting machines that leave no paper trail and the founder of the company basically guarunteed Bush the election. I mean cmon people open your eyes.

    [url=http://www.blackboxvoting.com/]http://www.blackboxvoting.com/[/url]

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bitonti[/i]@Jul 13 2004, 01:04 PM
    [b] oh yeah it's so ridiculous

    when some godforsaken place like the the republic of Dajbouti gets a voting district handed to the incumbant by the incumbant's brother, and when both men are the sons of the former head of the gove't secret police, that whole situation is dismissed as third world corruption

    when it happens in the US that's democracy in action

    there is no way to justify the florida debacle - bad sh-t went down and we should make sure it doesn't happen again

    what is really scary are all these electronic voting machines that leave no paper trail and the founder of the company basically guarunteed Bush the election. I mean cmon people open your eyes.

    [url=http://www.blackboxvoting.com/]http://www.blackboxvoting.com/[/url] [/b][/quote]
    so getting the un involved to help solve our own election problems is the answer?

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    ALL the recounts comissioned in Florida clearly showed Bush winning the election. At least thats what the NY Times and the LA Times have written. Just because Bitoni says bad s**t went down doesn't make it true. As a matter of fact it's quite the opposite as you have a tendency to make statements based purely on fiction.

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