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    [b]Communist Party USA supports John Kerry [/b]

    By D.P. HEIMBOLD
    St. Augustine
    Publication Date: 07/14/04


    The southern Democrats must be thrilled by the news that the Communist Party of The United States of America, CPUSA, is publicly supporting the election of John Kerry.

    The CPUSA has made available on its Web site, cpusa.org, an advertisement entitled Top Ten Reasons To Defeat Bush. This advertisement can be downloaded. The communist party urges readers to place this ad in local newspapers throughout the country to defeat President Bush.

    Remarkably, the "Top Ten Reasons" of the Communist party are identical to those of the Democratic party; out-sourcing, homosexual rights, abortion and the like.

    At first, I thought "this is only a coincidence." The Democratic party of the United States couldn't be in lock step with the Marxists! So, I wrote to a spokesman of the CPUSA in Georgia and here is part of his letter:

    " The CPUSA supports the John Kerry campaign with donations and volunteer effort. We believe that defeating George Bush is the single most important issue this November ..."

    Next, I discovered that one of Kerry's campaign themes is " Let America be America Again." This slogan was borrowed from a Communist poet, Langston Hughes. This is not common knowledge to the average American.

    "Let America be America Again" sounds good but is a rambling, gloomy poem. Interestingly, another poem by Langston goes as follows;

    "Goodbye, Christ Jesus, Lord, God, Jehova, Beat it on away from here now.

    Make way for a new guy with no religion at all -- A real guy named Marx, communist, Lenin, Peasant, Stalin, Worker, ME -- I said, ME!"

    Then, if this was not enough to convince me that the Democratic party has lost it, a third discovery!

    A Vietnam vet group took a trip to Communist Hanoi to investigate a report that John Kerry was in the "Hanoi Hall of Fame." Yes, there is a museum in Hanoi with a section dedicated to foreign activists who help defeat the United States Military in Vietnam. Of course, you would expect Jane Fonda's picture to be there. But, alas, there is John Kerry's picture shaking the hand of a communist official.

    Never has there been such a tragedy.

    Never has there been such a threat to America. The Democratic party has been taken over by the far, far left!

    Not only the communists but the homosexual activists who are appalled that George Bush is married to a woman! They are enraged that the president wants a constitutional amendment to protect traditional marriage between a man and woman.

    Then we have the ACLU running to a federal activist judge with every piece of legislation that doesn't fit into their leftist agenda. They support every Democratic socialist whim. The removal of the Ten Commandments is their top priority!

    Why can't our children read? The liberal NEA runs the government schools. You can't mention God or the Ten Commandments, but you can teach Islam and have the children pray to Allah and pass out condoms. The teachers union is solidly behind the Democratic candidate, John Kerry.

    How about the AFL-CIO? Solidly Democratic. How about the press? Solidly behind the left.

    Case in point: Viacom owns CBS and Dan Rather. Dan is really the president of the American Leftist Establishment. Every night Dan informs the country what we, the troops and the president did wrong that day. His boss, Viacom, just happens to own the company that published Richard Clark's attack on George Bush and company. Clarke was the hero of the 9-11 hearing. Viacom pushed up the publication date of Clark's book to coincide with the hearings.

    Oh, by the way, Viacom not only owns CBS and Dan Rather, but MTV!

    Yes, the same MTV that featured Janet Jackson's breast at the Super Bowl half time!

    Hollywood? There might be one or two votes for Bush from the filmmakers. But don't count on it. Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" propaganda film hurt the president. Impressionable youth fall victim to lies.

    But, not to worry.

    Truth means nothing to the Left.

    The quality of character of the Hollywood crowd is best illustrated by the recent antics of the starlet Britney Spears. After her 24-hour marriage, Britney is now engaged to a loser who left his unmarried, pregnant girlfriend and little child. There was not one eyebrow raised by the Hollywood-infatuated Network News. This is normal behavior for the left.

    The deck is really stacked against the re-election of President Bush.

    Now even the mass murderer Saddam Hussein agrees with Kennedy and Kerry that the president is a criminal. Before the election in November the press will clean up Hussein to look like a saint and George W. Bush a gangster.

    John Kerry promises to save the union by going to the UN. Kerry may have to deal with Muslim Kofi Annan's son, Kojo, who received "consultant" fees from Swiss company, Cotecna, which oversaw Iraq's Oil-For-Food program. Some of the $10 billion that was funneled through the "family run" UN program ended up in al Taqwa and Asat Trust, two of al-Qaida's front organizations. Funny, there are al-Qaida in Florida and the UN, but not in Iraq! Alas, but who is chopping off heads in Iraq?

    While the bulk of our National Guard are over seas fighting terrorist, every leftist weirdo is coming out of the closet to hi-jack the November presidential election.

    The question is: What are the "real" southern Democrats going to do?

    Will they join the CPUSA, NEA, ACLU and a host of other radical leftist groups or help save the country from this mob.

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    the bottom line is that people from widely different backgrounds are brought together with the goal of defeating Bush... Im sure Kerry isn't exactly the Commie's first choice for president but they are probably like me and would vote for a trained circus monkey over George Bush - that's how BAD Bush has been, and would be given another 4 years.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bitonti[/i]@Jul 14 2004, 11:43 AM
    [b] the bottom line is that people from widely different backgrounds are brought together with the goal of defeating Bush... Im sure Kerry isn't exactly the Commie's first choice for president but they are probably like me and would vote for a trained circus monkey over George Bush - that's how BAD Bush has been, and would be given another 4 years. [/b][/quote]
    [b]Commie's-Fags-Wahabi's & Terrorists for Kerry![/b]

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Come Back to NY+Jul 14 2004, 11:51 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (Come Back to NY @ Jul 14 2004, 11:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--bitonti[/i]@Jul 14 2004, 11:43 AM
    [b] the bottom line is that people from widely different backgrounds are brought together with the goal of defeating Bush... Im sure Kerry isn&#39;t exactly the Commie&#39;s first choice for president but they are probably like me and would vote for a trained circus monkey over George Bush - that&#39;s how BAD Bush has been, and would be given another 4 years. [/b][/quote]
    [b]Commie&#39;s-Fags-Wahabi&#39;s & Terrorists for Kerry&#33;[/b] [/b][/quote]
    lets not forget the Frogs and the Elitests.

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    I swear, Ralph Nader looks more attractive every day.

    Seriously&#33;

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    No surprise here. I think we are going to see a lot of independent parties come out and support Kerry, just because so many people hate Bush. I mean a lot of liberals are actively anti-Nader, because of his impact in 2000. Nader...the man for the people is being hated by the left side :o

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    Kerry was decorated by the communist parties overseas for his protesting the same war he now claims to be a hero of.

    What a shocker this is. :rolleyes:

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    Are you now or have you ever been a member of the communist party?

    BTW communism isn&#39;t evil, it is simply a form of government that hasn&#39;t panned out all that well. The ideology is sound, but putting it into practice is tough because of mans tendency to be corrupted and power hungry.

    I would rather be supported by the communist party than the Jehovas witnesses.

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    we got women, blacks, cops, commies, fags, hollywood stars, and just about anyone who has an iq above 90..
    Bush has racists, oil men and hompphobes...and anyone who is dumb enough to believe his lies.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bman[/i]@Jul 14 2004, 01:41 PM
    [b] we got commies, fags, hollywood stars, [/b][/quote]
    You can keep em

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bman[/i]@Jul 14 2004, 01:41 PM
    [b] we got women, blacks, cops, commies, fags, hollywood stars, and just about anyone who has an iq above 90..
    Bush has racists, oil men and hompphobes...and anyone who is dumb enough to believe his lies. [/b][/quote]
    I&#39;m not an oil man or a homophobe, I guess that makes me dumb or a racist...some choice&#33; (If I wasn&#39;t so stupid I could figure out a clever racial slur to use here....)

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Section109Row15[/i]@Jul 14 2004, 01:36 PM
    [b] Are you now or have you ever been a member of the communist party?

    BTW communism isn&#39;t evil, it is simply a form of government that hasn&#39;t panned out all that well. The ideology is sound, but putting it into practice is tough because of mans tendency to be corrupted and power hungry.

    I would rather be supported by the communist party than the Jehovas witnesses. [/b][/quote]
    good point section. a good attempt at opening the minds of the very narrowminded

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by joewilly+Jul 14 2004, 02:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (joewilly @ Jul 14 2004, 02:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Section109Row15[/i]@Jul 14 2004, 01:36 PM
    [b] Are you now or have you ever been a member of the communist party?

    BTW communism isn&#39;t evil, it is simply a form of government that hasn&#39;t panned out all that well. The ideology is sound, but putting it into practice is tough because of mans tendency to be corrupted and power hungry.

    I would rather be supported by the communist party than the Jehovas witnesses. [/b][/quote]
    good point section. a good attempt at opening the minds of the very narrowminded [/b][/quote]
    The problem with communism is deeper than mere implementation problems. Communism, as a system of government, is structurally flawed and it&#39;s ideology is not sound. Communism as a belief system, is childish in its impractical simplicity. It goes beyong mere corruption and "power hunger" Section. It&#39;s [i]intentions[/i] may or may not be noble, but good intentions are impossible to examine in a vaccuum and any program or systems of government spawned from a set of beliefs or intentions has to be evaluated by the results it acheives, the incentives it creates, and the ramifications it produces for those it represents, wholly separate from the [i]hopes[/i] that brought it to be, since I am sure the starving members of the old Soviet Union cared little about the laudable views Lenin or Marx had about property, or the fact that the "ideology" behind their suffering looks good in an abstract sense. Communism is almost inseparable from totalitarianism, and it is 100% in conflict with the idea of personal liberty, freedom and the ability of any individual to be the steward of his own life.

    Also, communism assumes and, actually, [i]counts on[/i] the fact that it is possible, practical and feasible that a small group of central planners can have all of the highly specific, detailed knowledge necessary to successfully, efficiently and fairly allocate millions of scarce resources, including productive resources like labor, without accounting for the fact that the only way this could possibly work is in such a small scale that it ceases to be a discussion about government, and rather applies to smaller organizations. It also removes incentives and creates inefficiencies that can and often did go unnoticed for years because the decision-making process is so isolated and concentrated in people who cannot possibly have the specific knowledge needed to make timely, correct decisions. It is why communism may perhaps work for a small community of a few dozen members whose labor functions and product and service needs are not very diverse, but can never work in a country of tens or hundreds of millions of people, all with differing abilities, needs, desires and circumstances. It is also why the crucial decision-making guide of free markets, prices, are so useful and needed and assumed as to be taken for granted. Prices are the signals which guide millions of individuals in their decision-making....from what job to work, to what product to buy, to what state to live in, etc. Without prices and the signals they communicate (and the knowledge reflected therein) efficiency is almost impossible to acheive.

    Vague and abstract platitudes about eliminating poverty, property and thus "inequality" are of no value whatsoever if their merits only exist in the abstract world. Sure, it would be great if poverty were eliminated and property not a necessity of human experience, but acknowledging that is no ahcievement in and of itself. The devil is in the details and it is in the details where communism cannot compete. So, what we have seen is that communism has actually acheived results that not only fall far short of their goals, but they are actually counter-productive and make things WORSE for the average citizen. Such a system of government, based on such inaccurate and impractical assumptions, is flawed, ideologically, practically and otherwise. It may be "sound" to desire the elimination of poverty, but communism is not "sound" since it does nothing to affect that outcome, regardless of the apparent desire of its proponents to do so. It&#39;s utter and complete neglect of the overwhelming influence of incentives and prices makes it flawed beyond repair.

    Our government often learns this basic economic lesson harshly. Rent controls were instituted to make rent affordable, and to counter-act the "greed" of landlords and the "exploitation" of the poor. What rent control did was raise homelessness. It removed incentives from landlords, and thus they didn&#39;t maintain their units as they would have under a competitive system. It allowed many people who were living at home with parents to be able to move out, thus adding to aggregate demand, without the landlords&#39; corresponding ability to adjust to that increase with an upward price movement. Thus, more people who wanted homes (some of them families with children) could not find them since landlords had their pick of tenants, instead of competed for them, and often chose singles who would likely be less vocal about compliants about poor upkeep, etc. Or, landlords decided the business wasn&#39;t profitable anymore, so they abandoned their buildings and they sat, empty and rotting, and the caliber of people who did become landlords were the type who had no moral problem with allowing people to live in unkempt units, knowing full well that tenants had little recourse because housing was scarce. The only units allowed to charge above rent control prices were "luxury" units, thus landlords converted units to "luxury" or, when any new building was built, it was a "luxury" building. So, some people who would have tolerated paying a slightly higher rent prior to rent control in order to have an apartment that was maintained, were often forced to pay "luxury" rates or do without an apartment, or live in squalor due to the problems CREATED by rent control. Thus, we had the appalling scenes of homeless people sleeping in abandoned buildings that were occupied prior to rent control, and an increase in total homelessness because of it. This has happened in every instance rent control has been tried, throughout different period of history and in many different countries, not just the USA. Rent control ignores incentives, to its shame.

    One could say the "ideology" behind rent control was "sound" because who doens&#39;t want prices to be "affordable" but that person would be wrong, since rent control AS A SYSTEM can only be evaluated by its results and effects, NOT on the merits of the hopes which brought it about.

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    5ever: I&#39;m not saying I prefer communism, or that I even support it. But maybe some of the reasons it failed had to do with our condemnation of it and our fear of it. You say that it destroys individuality and the like......but imagine living in a country of mainly starving people with scarce resources. The idea that everyone is equal and shares the wealth is much more appealing than to somone living the good life here in the US. Cuba is an example of a place where Communism has done relatively well. (Yes I know they have started to open up thei economy, etc...) Castro is a little crazy, but he is not the devil like we have portrayed him over the years.

    All I&#39;m saying is that the communist party in the United States is pretty measley, so to get your panies in a bunch over their support of Kerry is pointless. They are not going to influence Kerry to turn the country into a communist direction.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Section109Row15[/i]@Jul 14 2004, 03:53 PM
    [b] 5ever: I&#39;m not saying I prefer communism, or that I even support it. But maybe some of the reasons it failed had to do with our condemnation of it and our fear of it. You say that it destroys individuality and the like......but imagine living in a country of mainly starving people with scarce resources. The idea that everyone is equal and shares the wealth is much more appealing than to somone living the good life here in the US. Cuba is an example of a place where Communism has done relatively well. (Yes I know they have started to open up thei economy, etc...) Castro is a little crazy, but he is not the devil like we have portrayed him over the years.

    All I&#39;m saying is that the communist party in the United States is pretty measley, so to get your panies in a bunch over their support of Kerry is pointless. They are not going to influence Kerry to turn the country into a communist direction. [/b][/quote]
    Section -

    I agree that this thread is childish. A lot of this forum is both sides trying to play "gotcha&#33;" and has to be viewed in that way. I tend to be too serious, probably...which is why my posts are long and likely boring...but I enjoy serious discussions about serious topics.

    That said, I said considerably more than communism destorying individuality. It does far more than that. Cuba is pretty small, relatively. Also, I&#39;d contend that your characterizations aren&#39;t fair, and there are certainly many, many Cubans who risk their own lives to get out of Cuba. I don&#39;t see many poor people from America floating on rickety rafts through shark-infested waters to get in to the Cuban paradise...

    But in some ways you&#39;re right about Cuba, thouh I would caution you from being too generous in your assumptions about Fidel. He&#39;s a pretty bad guy, IMO.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Section109Row15[/i]@Jul 14 2004, 03:53 PM
    [b] 5ever: I&#39;m not saying I prefer communism, or that I even support it. But maybe some of the reasons it failed had to do with our condemnation of it and our fear of it. You say that it destroys individuality and the like......but imagine living in a country of mainly starving people with scarce resources. [/b][/quote]
    sec109 is right&#33;&#33;

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    [quote][b]sec109 is right&#33;&#33;
    [/b][/quote]

    Wow we agree on something ;) The difference, however, is I don&#39;t necessarily think it was a great accomplishment. Vietnam, Korea, the witch hunts of our own people were all pretty sad. I&#39;m not saying Russia and other communist countries weren&#39;t a threat, but it got a little too extreme. If the cold war ended with the fall of Russia, then what is going to mark the end of the war on terror?

    [b]Christianity has only killed a few billion people, lets spread the good word.[/b]

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    Name me one communist country&#33;&#33;&#33; Does anyone here know what communism means? Here&#39;s a hint -- it&#39;s such a utopian view of the world, there would be no need for government. But hey, you don&#39;t like &#39;em, call &#39;em "commies."

    Back to reality. I&#39;d vote for a little green guy named Gumby over our current President, and I&#39;d bet the farm that poor little Gumby couldn&#39;t do a worse job than dubya, even if he tried.

    And back to a more chilling reality, no WMDs&#33; No ties to bin-Laden&#33; Thousands dead&#33; Billions spent&#33; Too many lies to count&#33;&#33;&#33;

    Go Gumby&#33;

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Come Back to NY[/i]@Jul 14 2004, 11:39 AM
    [b] [b]Communist Party USA supports John Kerry [/b]
    [/b][/quote]
    This is suppose to be telling us something ? :huh: Those ding-a-lings have been cut adrift ever since Gus Hall kicked the bucket &#33; Not that they ever were much force to begin with. Their recent makeover is sickening. I saw their contingent in the Anti Prop 187 March held in LA in 1994. Their banner wasn&#39;t Red & Black nor did it have a Hammer & Sickle. It used nondescript Red and Blue lettering on a White backround. Absolutely pathetic &#33;

    The way CBNY as those of his ilk have glommed onto to this development is very revealing of the extent of desparation held by the Right in this country. Anyone who knows anything about political formations here will tell you that you can take CPUSA&#39;s Followers and stuff them in a phone booth &#33; <_<

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by WestCoastMole[/i]@Jul 17 2004, 12:01 PM
    [b] Anyone who knows anything about political formations here will tell you that you can take CPUSA&#39;s Followers and stuff them in a phone booth &#33; <_< [/b][/quote]
    You&#39;re right.

    They&#39;re all registered democrats, now.

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