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    [b]UN Confirms: WMDs Smuggled Out of Iraq[/b]

    In a report which might alternately be termed ?stunning? or ?terrifying?, United Nations weapons inspectors confirmed last week not merely that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, but that he smuggled them out of his country, before, during and after the war.

    Late last week, the UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) briefed the Security Council on Saddam's lightning-fast dismantling of missile and WMD sites before and during the war. UNMOVIC executive chairman Demetrius Perricos detailed not only the export of thousands of tons of missile components, nuclear reactor vessels and fermenters for chemical and biological warheads, but also the discovery of many (but not most) of these items - with UN inspection tags still on them -- as far afield as Jordan, Turkey and even Holland.

    Notably absent from that list is Iraq's western neighbor Syria, ruled by its own Baath Party just like Saddam's and closed to even the thought of an UNMOVIC inspection. Israeli intelligence has been reporting the large-scale smuggling of Saddam's WMD program across the Syrian border since at least two months before the war. Syria has long been the world's foremost state-sponsor of terrorism.

    Perricos highlighted the proliferation danger to the Security Council, as well he should: UNMOVIC has no idea where most of the WMD material is today, just that it exists and it's gone; and anything in Syria is likely to be in Jerusalem or New York tomorrow.

    This is the biggest news story of 2004 so far. Yet you haven't heard about it, have you?

    You probably haven't heard about Canada's Prime Minister Paul Martin either -- a socialist and no friend of America. Addressing a group of 700 university researchers and business leaders in Montreal last month, Martin stated bluntly that terrorists have acquired WMDs from Saddam. ?The fact is that there is now, we know well, a proliferation of nuclear weapons, and that many weapons that Saddam Huseein had, we don't know where they are?. [T]errorists have access to all of them,? the Canadian premier warned.

    The tip of this terrorist sword was scarcely deflected on April 26th, when Jordanian intelligence broke up an al Qaeda conspiracy to detonate a large chemical device in the capital city of Amman. Directed by al Qaeda terrorist leader Abu al-Zarqawi -- the same man who personally beheaded American Nicholas Berg in Iraq last month -- the plotters sought to use a massive explosion to spread a ?toxic cloud?, meant to wipe out the U.S. embassy, the Jordanian prime minister's office, the Jordanian intelligence headquarters, and at least 20,000 civilians (by contrast, only 3,000 died on 9/11). Over twenty tons of chemical weapons were seized from the conspirators, who were just days away from carrying out their plot.

    One wonders where CNN and USA Today think twenty tons of nerve gas and sarin came from: Chemical Weapons-Mart? Yet their coverage, like most major media outlets, mentioned not a word about Saddam's smuggled WMDs, which -- according to liberal dogma -- ?don't exist.?

    Even though the UN says they do exist, now spread around the world.

    It's not just the UN. Bill Clinton says they exist, even after the war: in a July 2003 interview with Larry King, the ex-president uncharacteristically defended George Bush, saying ?it is incontestable that on the day I left office, there [was]?a substantial amount of biological and chemical material unaccounted for? in Iraq. Every intelligence agency in the world -- French, British, German, Russian, Czech, you name it -- agreed before the war; Jordanian intelligence can certainly confirm their opinion today.

    So what's the deal? Why the relentless pretence that ?Bush lied? when even the UN and Bill Clinton say he didn't? Why the absolute silence about ?inconvenient? parts of various UN reports, such as the discovery of chemical and biological weapons plans, recipes and equipment; of bio-weapons agents in an Iraqi scientist's house; of a prison lab for testing bio weapons on humans; of complexes for manufacturing fuel for prohibited long-range missiles; of artillery rounds containing enough sarin to kill thousands of people, of similar shells containing mustard gas, two (but far from the only) of which were used in a terrorist attack against U.S. forces just weeks ago?

    America cannot afford the answer to this ?why?: that many on the left consider George W. Bush's defeat more urgent than al Qaeda's, his political death more essential than the possible physical death of millions of Americans.

    The character of our foreign enemies has never been in doubt. The character of the enemy within -- from Dan Rather to Michael Moore -- has never been clearer. And the stakes are the highest they've ever been.

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    Where is this article from?

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    Until the media devotes even a modicum of time to former Texas lieutenant governor Ben Barnes' apology, stop *****ing about the "liberal" media.

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    It wouldn't surprise me a bit. Bush's big mistake was announcing his arrival 2 months before actually getting there.

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    IF this report is true (and I haven't seen it yet on a Maor News website) then there are realy only two things we can say:

    The Good: Our intelligence may not have been so bad. That is a positive.

    The Bad: Where are the weapons? Having Saddam have them was bad. Having unknown Terrorist groups have them AND not knowing where they are......REALY BAD :[img]http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' />

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Warfish[/i]@Aug 30 2004, 10:16 PM
    [b] IF this report is true (and I haven't seen it yet on a Maor News website) then there are realy only two things we can say:

    The Good: Our intelligence may not have been so bad. That is a positive.

    The Bad: Where are the weapons? Having Saddam have them was bad. Having unknown Terrorist groups have them AND not knowing where they are......REALY BAD :<!--emo&Angry:-->[img]http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif[/img]<!--endemo--> [/b][/quote]
    [b]Come Back[/b] - PLEASE tell us the source of this article....


    [b]Fisher [/b]- why would we assume that Saddam wasn't already selling them/hiding them with terrorist groups prior to the war? The sanctions were weakening, as evidenced by the Oil for Food Program, which enriched Saddam, and displayed the generally pro-Saddam attitudfe of the UN, most recently by Kof Annan's pronouncement that he can "do business with this man." Saddam knew that if he used WMD or was discovered to have them at any time that he was toast. Yet, he continued to pursue them and evade inspections. WMD is not some finite, static term that is "all or nothing." They are constantly being produced (at least, Saddam retained that capability, and, going by history, that desire). Who knows how many WMD he sold to terrorist groups in the years between both gulf wars. Why would we ever believe that he was just sitting on them? The facts are that a mass-producing Saddam is a threat to us, especially in light of the fact that terrorists have succeeded in killing us within our own borders and that WMD are easily transportable. Stopping the production and flow of WMD from Saddam is only a good thing, and not a bad thing. The error we made was going to the UN AT ALL. People blame Bush for rushing to war, even though he wasted almost 9 months playing around with the UN, and giving Saddam ample time to hide/sell/destroy/smuggle his remaining or [i]current[/i] stash of WMD. If we hadn't invaded, he would have created MORE WMD. He would have known that the eyes of the world were again upon him, and would have even been more incented to sell these WMD to terrorist groups that could use them against us and not have himself traced or "directly" involved. Bush should have just invaded and bypassed the UN. The element of surprise would have (1) given Saddam virtually no time to handle the WMD issue, and would have not allowed the insurgency the many months of planning that the long build did.

    Even though he is being (wrongly) castigated as a warmonger, I think Bush was too timid with Saddam, frankly.

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    It is from a conservative site that collects information which "slips past the press.

    [url=http://www.thevanguard.org/]http://www.thevanguard.org/[/url]

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Come Back to NY[/i]@Aug 30 2004, 06:26 PM
    [b] You probably haven't heard about Canada's Prime Minister Paul Martin either -- a socialist and no friend of America. Addressing a group of 700 university researchers and business leaders in Montreal last month, Martin stated bluntly that terrorists have acquired WMDs from Saddam. ?The fact is that there is now, we know well, a proliferation of nuclear weapons, and that many weapons that Saddam Huseein had, we don't know where they are?. [T]errorists have access to all of them,? the Canadian premier warned. [/b][/quote]
    Here is an article referring to the above quote ...

    Link: [url=http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/TorontoSun/News/2004/05/11/454662.html]http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/TorontoSun/N.../11/454662.html[/url]

    Tue, May 11, 2004

    WMD threat: PM
    SADDAM'S MISSING WEAPONS IN TERRORISTS' HANDS: MARTIN
    By STEPHANIE RUBEC, OTTAWA BUREAU

    PRIME MINISTER Paul Martin says he believes Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and they've fallen into terrorists' hands. Martin said the threat of terrorism is even greater now than it was following the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, because terrorists have acquired nuclear, chemical and biological weapons from the toppled Iraqi leader.

    "The fact is that there is now, we know well, a proliferation of nuclear weapons, and that many weapons that Saddam Hussein had, we don't know where they are," Martin told a crowd of about 700 university researchers and business leaders in Montreal. "That means terrorists have access to all of that."

    'NOT OUT OF IT YET'

    The PM's comments run counter to opinions expressed by leaders in such countries as France and Germany who have accused the U.S. and Britain of fudging evidence of WMDs to justify the war against Iraq.

    When asked to assess the threat level since Saddam was captured by U.S. troops, Martin said he believes it has increased.

    "I believe that terrorism will be, for our generation, what the Cold War was to generations that preceded us," he said. "I don't think we're out of it yet."

    Martin disagreed with former prime minister Jean Chretien, who publicly blamed poverty for terrorism and the Sept. 11 attacks. "The cause of terrorism is not poverty, it is hatred."

    He said he'll lead the charge to convince countries to join forces to combat terrorism and make sure the Third World has the tools to stamp it out.

    Martin said he's lobbying the international community to set up an informal organization to tackle world issues such as terrorism.

    GETS NOD FROM BUSH

    He said he got the nod from U.S. President George Bush during his visit last month to Washington, D.C., and will take his idea to the European Union and Latin America next.

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    [quote][b]CBNY

    Where is this article from?
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    After many requests by people on here CBTNY still fails to post links to articles.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Section109Row15[/i]@Aug 31 2004, 09:40 AM
    [b] [quote][b]CBNY

    Where is this article from?
    [/b][/quote]

    After many requests by people on here CBTNY still fails to post links to articles. [/b][/quote]
    gets your eyes checked.

    BTW: thanks Titan62

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