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    how much safer are we in a world waging unending war on terror?

    does anyone really believe that liberal democracy can survive in Iraq? a place where they are STILL attacking our men?

    does anyone really believe that the 400 Billion spent to date plus the 1000 GI's dead was worth it?

    let's fact the facts people; this war was a mistake from the outset, and we are reaping the fruit of our efforts every day.

    1000 American GI's dead, and you can't blame Kerry or Clinton for that.

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    Hey, bit, your total's off.

    It's actually 4,000 Americans dead since September 11th.

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    [quote][b]Hey, bit, your total's off.

    It's actually 4,000 Americans dead since September 11th.[/b][/quote]

    Do you think the sacrifice of 1000 US troops saved 1000 people here at home?

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    Of course bit and section would be the first to mouth off on this board had we not taken out Sadaam and a terrorist attack occured in this country was traced back to Iraq...of course that will not happen anymore.

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    [quote][b]Of course bit and section would be the first to mouth off on this board had we not taken out Sadaam and a terrorist attack occured in this country was traced back to Iraq...of course that will not happen anymore.
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    Its more likely to happen now. It is already happening, just in Iraq, not here yet.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Section109Row15[/i]@Sep 9 2004, 11:48 AM
    [b] [quote][b]Of course bit and section would be the first to mouth off on this board had we not taken out Sadaam and a terrorist attack occured in this country was traced back to Iraq...of course that will not happen anymore.
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    Its more likely to happen now. It is already happening, just in Iraq, not here yet. [/b][/quote]
    Unfortunately that is exactly what you and other libs are hoping for so as to point a finger and say, "I told you". :(

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    [quote][b]Unfortunately that is exactly what you and other libs are hoping for so as to point a finger and say, "I told you". [/b][/quote]

    I'm not the one posting links to beheadings. You are.

    You can't have it both ways.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Section109Row15[/i]@Sep 9 2004, 11:55 AM
    [b] [quote][b]Unfortunately that is exactly what you and other libs are hoping for so as to point a finger and say, "I told you". [/b][/quote]

    I'm not the one posting links to beheadings. You are.

    You can't have it both ways. [/b][/quote]
    that makes a lot of sense <_< .

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    how about the fact that the scary WMD weapons of mass dissapearance was the entire reason we went to war... now it&#39;s apparent that there was no threat...

    if your son was one of the 1000 to die in this war would you feel like his death was worth it? that he died fighting for American freedom?

    i wouldn&#39;t. :unsure:

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    [quote][b]that makes a lot of sense [/b][/quote]

    You are saying that I want these terroist acts to take place to prove the point that the Iraq War was wrong. Yet you are the one glorifying their acts by distributing their propoganda of beheadings and complain the media won&#39;t show them.

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    don&#39;t worry section this whole war is based on stuff that didn&#39;t happen and now will never happen, so we really will never know if it was justified... and we are safer to boot&#33;&#33;&#33;

    :blink:

    you have George Bush to thank for his ability to tell the future.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by Section109Row15[/i]@Sep 9 2004, 12:08 PM
    [b] [quote][b]that makes a lot of sense [/b][/quote]

    You are saying that I want these terroist acts to take place to prove the point that the Iraq War was wrong. Yet you are the one glorifying their acts by distributing their propoganda of beheadings and complain the media won&#39;t show them. [/b][/quote]
    Propaganda??? Posting a link to actual beheadings is propaganda??? :lol: Try again.

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    " Yet you are the one glorifying their acts by distributing their propoganda of beheadings and complain the media won&#39;t show them. "

    I think the point of showing them is to point out the evil these animals are capable of. To say he&#39;s glorifying them plain wrong.

    And Bitoni the WMD&#39;s that Sadam had are "scary". They killed a lot of Kurds. Your a smart guy. We know he had them. Even John Kerry has said so before it became politically inconvinient for him. Where did they go? Is it possible, even just a little bit possible, that they do exist ? Just because you can&#39;t find something doesn&#39;t mean it&#39;s not there. It is "scary" that people like you so willing to use the WMD issue for political reasons, yet so unwilling to admit the possibility that if we ever do find them it could be in the middle of Times Square w/ a lot of dead Americans.

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    good post 45. And Bitonti knows that WMD were not the &#39;only&#39; reason for this war, he simply distorts facts to suit his narrow agenda. He has also admitted in the past that even if we had found tons of WMD and lost not a single American life that this war was stupid and counterproductive - he has some fancy shoe & cockroach analogies that demostrate this "insight" - so his present righteous indignation about 1000 dead GI&#39;s and no WMDs is comically disingenuous.

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    Thanks. Since I&#39;m only a part time poster I don&#39;t mean to be harsh, but this is a very realy threat that all of us, especially those in the NY are are gonna have to live w/ for a long time.

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    [quote][b]I think the point of showing them is to point out the evil these animals are capable of. To say he&#39;s glorifying them plain wrong. [/b][/quote]

    So can I post links to child pornography to point out how wrong it is?

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by bitonti[/i]@Sep 9 2004, 10:34 AM
    [b] 1000 American GI&#39;s dead, and you can&#39;t blame Kerry or Clinton for that. [/b][/quote]
    Like you give a &#036;hit about them. Aren&#39;t you the one who called Pat Tillman a "sucker".

    What a phony.

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    [quote][b]good post 45. And Bitonti knows that WMD were not the &#39;only&#39; reason for this war, he simply distorts facts to suit his narrow agenda. He has also admitted in the past that even if we had found tons of WMD and lost not a single American life that this war was stupid and counterproductive - he has some fancy shoe & cockroach analogies that demostrate this "insight" - so his present righteous indignation about 1000 dead GI&#39;s and no WMDs is comically disingenuous. [/b][/quote]

    Actually, WMD was the only reason given for going to war. When we invaded Iraq you didn&#39;t hear anything about 9/11 implications, all you heard was WMD. Untill we didn&#39;t find them, then it was humanatatrian aspect of it and they were linked to 9/11. Why didn&#39;t they say that before we didn&#39;t find any weapons?

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    [quote][b]And Bitoni the WMD&#39;s that Sadam had are "scary". They killed a lot of Kurds. Your a smart guy. We know he had them. Even John Kerry has said so before it became politically inconvinient for him. Where did they go? Is it possible, even just a little bit possible, that they do exist ? Just because you can&#39;t find something doesn&#39;t mean it&#39;s not there. It is "scary" that people like you so willing to use the WMD issue for political reasons, yet so unwilling to admit the possibility that if we ever do find them it could be in the middle of Times Square w/ a lot of dead Americans[/b][/quote]

    In a country where there is such a thing as proof, you don&#39;t have any. I need to have proof that they are there. And you can&#39;t offer any. Your right just beacause you can&#39;t see it doesn&#39;t mean it doesn&#39;t exist, but then tell me Kevin, where are they?

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by pope+Sep 9 2004, 01:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>[b]QUOTE[/b] (pope &#064; Sep 9 2004, 01:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bitonti[/i]@Sep 9 2004, 10:34 AM
    [b] 1000 American GI&#39;s dead, and you can&#39;t blame Kerry or Clinton for that. [/b][/quote]
    Like you give a &#036;hit about them. Aren&#39;t you the one who called Pat Tillman a "sucker".

    What a phony. [/b][/quote]
    if i said it, show it to me, all of the posts are available for search. I never said Pat Tillman was a sucker. I specifically remember not saying anything bad about Tillman, only that his death was in vain. That comment i made literally weeks after his death (not right away) and I stand by that, Afghanistan is still a mess. Controlled by warlords is not exactly utopia.

    i care about the Soldiers very deeply. I hate the man who puts them in harms way for no good reason. Pope i know you have family over there, and if you would rather not really deal with the truth of the situation, and stay safe in the propoganda of the US government, that&#39;s your perogative. I sincerely hope your brother returns home safe, and I always have.

    [b]kevin45[/b] i am a native NYer but don&#39;t give me this we all have to live with it garbage. If we were really serious about fighting terror we wouldn&#39;t be sleeping with both the Pakistanis and the Saudis. These guys ARE the terrorists, yet they are also our "allies" in the war on terror? We are losing American GI&#39;s in Iraq and selling American arms to the Saudis? Pakistanis are caught all the time under the suspicion of terrorist plotting, yet their nation is a vicious military dictatorship... with NUKES&#33;

    also cmon.. Iraqi WMD are Never showing up. Give up the game, that line was relevant about 2 years ago... how many years before those crazy stockpiles show up. The stats Powell presented to the UN were of a HUGE stockpile. HUGE. No one knows where they are and more than that we have stopped looking seriously.

    Scott Ritter was the man who knew more about WMD then anyone and we all gutted him in the media.

    Here&#39;s what went down with the WMD... they were used up, destroyed, looted by terrorists already, or lost. Whatever happened to them, Saddam probably thought he had alot more than he did.

    oh yeah one more thing, those scary Iraqi WMD (not nearly as "scary" as the North Korea nukes we diplomatically handle) were a threat to Israel, not a threat to America. That&#39;s why Ed Koch is all pro Bush now... cause Bush is the best US President, Israel has ever had.

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