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    9/15 - NYTimes Op-Ed


    Here's how bad off the Democrats are: They're cowering behind closed doors, whispering that if it should ever turn out that Republicans are behind this, it would be so exquisitely Machiavellian, so beyond what Democrats are capable of, they should just fold and concede the election now - before the Republicans have to go to the trouble of stealing it again.

    There's no evidence - it's just a preposterous, paranoid fantasy at this point. But it speaks to the jitters of the Democrats that they're consumed with speculation about whether Karl Rove, the master of dirty tricks and surrogate sleaze, could have set up CBS in a diabolical pre-emptive strike to undermine damaging revelations about Bush 43's privileged status and vanishing act in the National Guard, and his odd refusal to take his required physical when ordered.

    In this vast left-wing conspiracy theory, Mr. Rove takes real evidence on W.'s shirking and transfers it to documents doomed to be exposed as phony (thereby undermining the real goods), then funnels it through third parties to Dan Rather, Bush 41's nemesis on Iran-contra. A perfect bank shot.

    The secretary for W.'s squadron commander in the Texas Guard told The Times that the information in the disputed memos is correct - it's just the memos that seem fake.

    "It looks like someone may have read the originals and put that together,'' said a lucid 86-year-old Marian Carr Knox, who was flown up to New York yesterday by beleaguered CBS News executives.

    She told Mr. Rather that her boss, Lt. Col. Jerry Killian, wrote a "cover-your-back file,'' a "personal journal'' to keep a record about the politically connected Bush in his charge. She said the contents of that mirrored the CBS documents, but she said those documents were not on the right forms and contained Army terms rather than Air National Guard argot. She confirmed that young Bush had disobeyed a direct order from Colonel Killian to take a physical.

    "It was a big no-no to not follow orders,'' she said, adding that the Bush scion's above-the-rules attitude caused some snickers and resentment among fellow officers.

    Those who suspect Mr. Rove note that when he was Bill Clements's campaign strategist in a 1986 governor's race in Texas, he was accused of bugging his own office to distract from a debate, according to James Moore and Wayne Slater, authors of "Bush's Brain.'' They said it turned the election because after that, the Democrat could not get any attention.

    Was the same scenario playing out yesterday evening on CNN? After a five-minute report on the CBS memo controversy, CNN spent about 30 seconds reporting that two more marines had been killed in Iraq.

    House Republicans started clamoring for a Congressional inquiry into the documents used by "60 Minutes,'' saying it might be an attempt to manipulate the election. (Isn't that what the Democrats are scared the Republicans are doing?)

    These same Republicans never wanted investigations into missing W.M.D., why Congress passed a Medicare bill based on faulty figures, Abu Ghraib or even whether those Swiftie guys were lying, for Pete's sake.

    The Democratic paranoia is a measure of the intimidation the West Wing is wielding in a race where John Kerry can't seem to take advantage of any of the Bush administration's increasingly calamitous blunders.

    The administration has been so dazzling in misleading the public with audacious, mendacious malarkey that the Democrats fear the Bushies are capable of any level of deceit.

    Iraq is a vision of hell, and the Republicans act as if it's a model kitchen. The president and vice president brag about liberating Iraqis and reassure us that they are stopping terrorist violence at its source and inspiring democracy in the region by bringing it to blood-drenched Iraq.

    But what they haven't mentioned is that they have known since July that their rosy scenarios are as bogus as their W.M.D. That's when the president received a national intelligence estimate that spelled out "a dark assessment of prospects" for stability and governance in Iraq in the next 18 months, as Douglas Jehl wrote in today's Times. Worst-case estimates include civil war or anarchy.

    Unlike the president, the young men and women trying to stay alive in the unraveling chaos of Iraq can't count on their daddies to get them out of the line of fire.

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    bEautiful!
    Now if we only had a candidate with some balls!

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    This is getting to be just hilarious:

    --Republicans are saying Kerry and his campaign were behind the false documents, and that Kerry will have to step down when that is proved. :lol:

    --Democrats are saying the Republican Party (Bush) are behind the false documents, because they make Kerry look so bad by association. :lol:

    --Dan Rather is standing there, confused look on his face, wondering how he was so easily manipulated to be the pawn of SOMEONE......he wouldn't have minded being a Liberal Pawn, but imagine his horror if he was actually a Conservative pawn, LOL!!! :lol: :lol:

    What a joke this election is degenerating into. We had two crappy candidates to start, and their behavior (and alleged behaviors) since then have not made them look any better.

    Where is the "Pat Buchanan for President" Bandwagon when we REALLY need them??? :D

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    i agree with you..
    The four people (*cheney/bush/kerry/edwards) are trully IDIOTS!! America is trully the land of contradictions..The greatest most powerful (supposedly benevolent) country on Earth...and those are the choices!!


    right now Howard Dean/Wesley Clark is looking very good!

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    "What a joke this election is degenerating into. We had two crappy candidates to start, and their behavior (and alleged behaviors) since then have not made them look any better."

    Well said. If ever there was a need for a viable 3rd party candidate this is it. Maybe this whole political circus will be enough to kick people in the a$$ to vote for a Perot type next time around.

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    I really cant wait for the debates because this back-n-forth nonsense and arguing over nothing is ridiculous.

    Kerry and Bush are two peas in the same DC political power machine pod. And unfortunately, the politcal game is played with smear campaigns and name-calling. I cant even say I back Kerry 100%, but whats my other option: not voting or Nader?

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    [quote][b]"It looks like someone may have read the originals and put that together,'' said a lucid 86-year-old Marian Carr Knox, who was flown up to New York yesterday by beleaguered CBS News executives.

    She told Mr. Rather that her boss, Lt. Col. Jerry Killian, wrote a "cover-your-back file,'' a "personal journal'' to keep a record about the politically connected Bush in his charge. She said the contents of that mirrored the CBS documents, but she said those documents were not on the right forms and contained Army terms rather than Air National Guard argot. She confirmed that young Bush had disobeyed a direct order from Colonel Killian to take a physical.

    "It was a big no-no to not follow orders,'' she said, adding that the Bush scion's above-the-rules attitude caused some snickers and resentment among fellow officers.[/b][/quote]

    One interesting point the liberal CBS and the Times left out...the original article showed Ms. Knox seemingly has an axe to grind against the President:

    [quote][b]Knox, 86, who spoke with precise recollection about dates, people and events, said, "I remember very vividly when Bush was there and all the yak-yak that was going on about it."

    She added that she does not support Bush as president, deeming him "unfit for office" and "selected, not elected." [/b][/quote]

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    Maureen Dowd has male genitalia. Something you may want to consider before you propose.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by shakin318[/i]@Sep 17 2004, 10:57 AM
    [b] Maureen Dowd has male genitalia. Something you may want to consider before you propose. [/b][/quote]
    :D :D :D

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    I love what happens when the Socialists are losing an election. After theyre exhausted from repeating all their insults and lies and getting nowhere they start whining about voting for fringe candidates. If it makes you feel better go ahead and write in Mumia, Franken, Buchanan, Dean, Sharpton, Gore, Kucinich, Cleland, Gephardt or anyone else who comes to mind. As they say in Chicago vote early and vote often.

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    [quote][i]Originally posted by flushingjet[/i]@Sep 18 2004, 08:06 PM
    [b] I love what happens when the Socialists are losing an election. After theyre exhausted from repeating all their insults and lies and getting nowhere they start whining about voting for fringe candidates. If it makes you feel better go ahead and write in Mumia, Franken, Buchanan, Dean, Sharpton, Gore, Kucinich, Cleland, Gephardt or anyone else who comes to mind. As they say in Chicago vote early and vote often. [/b][/quote]
    Socialists would vote for Buchanan?? Really?? Uh, ok.

    Given a choice between Bush, Kerry and Buchanan, Buchanan would be my first choice every time. Sorry if that offends you.

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    Vote for whoever you like. It doesn't offend me what you do, it would please me to no end for you to write in a Buchanan vote. While I agree wholeheartedly with some of his views, particularly those of illegals, he is not and has never been one of the common folk; his views on Nazis and Jews are disgusting to anyone of any political bent; and his weirdo alignment with Lenora Fulani (explain that one to me - shes an anti-Semitic Socialist) in my mind forever makes him an unfit and unelectable candidate.

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